WestCanMan

Trudeau clamped his teeth down onto his negotiating pillow in the 11th hour and signed what Trump told him to sign. Jean Chretien is an idiot.

What the Democrats tried to do with Kavanaugh, and what they've been doing ever since the election, is a disgrace to Democracy. I knew that Hillary was the type of person who should never get near the levers of power after I saw her first interview after Bill's Monica Lewinski confession - she's pure greed & lust for power with no hint of humanity or conscience. I've tried to dig up that interview a few times on google and it doesn't come up, it's like they scrubbed it. Incredibly revealing of the heartless person that she is. The whole Democrat party seems to be of the same ilk. There's nothing I like less than a hypocrite, and the Dems and their Hollywood elite useful idiots who stand behind the likes of Bill Clinton, Roman Polanski, Keith Ellison and Ted "Killer" Kennedy have absolutely no room whatsoever to talk about someone like Kavanaugh, who doesn't even have a shred of evidence against him in his entire lifetime. Just a vague accusation from stupid liberal bimbo straight out of Palo Alto School for the Politically Challenged. That's actually like a character reference in my books.

Lol. I don't agree with your pov or anything you said here, but I love this quote. I'm stealing it.

They're unhinged. They've always gone low but this is a step too far now. Hillary is openly calling for an end to "civility" as if they even knew what that was before. The open hostility of the Dems and the leftists in Hollywood etc has already resulted in one Senator being shot, another assaulted in his own back yard, and several members of the trump Government facing hostility all over the country. You say it's going to get much worse, that's a really pathetic thing for you to say Michael Hardner, because there's no cause for it to get worse. It's not just Hillary either, Booker and Maxine Waters have been endorsing this crap for a while now. Class, class, class. They're even praising Antifa on CNN (Chris Cuomo is anyways). It's completely out of hand. The government, or even the opposition, should never even condone much less openly call for these types of actions. There's no good reason. They're disgusting hypocrites whose only chance to get votes is to stoke division within the country. Honestly: "You guys chose Trump instead of Hillary the snake" isn't a reason for open hostility. That's a time of rejoicing. Can you imagine a government led by Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi et al? That's even worse than having Trudeau, Climate Barbie and the snivelling sycophants of our own government, and it takes a lot for me to admit that a government could be worse than our own.

I dunno if this is all just conspiracy theory stuff, but I’ve heard that the amount of money that the railway companies make from shipping oil is one of the biggest obstacles. They're funding the resistance to the pipelines.

I don’t think he’s doing any more than making the appearance of trying. If he really wanted them built then why would he announce publicly that Canada is phasing out the oil sands? Who really wants to invest tens of billions on pipelines to ship oil that we will stop producing?

Bloomberg says $700B. Obama ran 4 deficits larger than that. Supposedly the US is posting a $116B surplus for Sept. The US deficit includes military spending like we have never seen in Canada, and over $500B in interest payments. Trump isn’t killing off his energy sector while he’s doing this, he’s not giving away stupid money like Trudeau, he’s not asking for hordes of illegal immigrants to come get free money either. If Trudeau was somehow getting us ahead that would be one thing. He’s not. He’s doing shameless self-promotion at our expense.

I'm happy for Obama's economic recovery, and the increased oil production. I recognize that Obama took the reins in an extremely tough time. I know that the massive debt that he piled up was mainly due to the stimulus package that he had no choice but push through. I actually liked Obama up until 2015 - I never really followed him that closely before that. I'm also happy that Trump is continuing that trend of increasing oil volume. I never explicitly gave him credit for every drop of it, I merely juxtaposed his stance on oil against our own PM's stance. Trudeau is actively against Oil and he has said publicly that phasing out the Oil Sands is our goal. Then people wonder why so much investment goes away. FWIW wilbur, Trump's GDP growth is faster than Obama's GDP growth. That's due to decreased regulations and tax cuts. It was evident that the economy was going to go up when the Dow Jones went ballistic after the election, in anticipation of the things Trump said he would do. (He did them.) That was an indication that businesses believed it was a good time to invest in American businesses, and it's why the economy accelerated upwards. That's what Trump is taking credit for. That, and decreased unemployment, lower than where it's ever been in many cases. Side note about this video: the guy references Trump's lies, and like everyone else who does that, all he has to talk about is the number of people at the inauguration lol. Trump saw a big crowd, he thought it was the biggest ever, they dug up transit ridership info because that was all that they had readily available, he determined that his crowd was biggest based on that data, and he was wrong to do that. It's completely dishonest to say that it was "lying" when he was just "wrong" unless you know what was actually going through his mind at that moment, but that's what fake news does. Jump to the worst possible conclusion and sell it hard. Trump was being arrogant. He was guilty of hubris. But he didn't "lie" at that moment and that's a hugely important distinction. Lying is like what Hillary did regarding dead people in Iraq. Lying was when Trump said he'd show his tax returns. Lies vs being wrong, and not even about anything remotely important.

1) Our government actually IS killing our energy sector. Killing coal, phasing out the oil sands, chasing away roughly $100 billion in investment.... Are you trying to take me literally at 100% of the energy sector? I thought people would understand that I was speaking about but I guess I should have been more specific. And there's no way that the Trump government is piling up debt faster than the Trudeau government, in relation to our respective GDPs. If you read what you copied and pasted you can clearly see that I'm talking in the present tense about what the Trudeau/Trump governments are doing right now, and not about how much debt our countries both accumulated in our history. I said "Canada is in a far worse state than the US in that regard" beside #5, which is in response to your #5, which says "What tools will there be to fix the mess after a crash, with interest rates already low and debt already high?" I thought that you were talking about household debt, that's why I included house prices. The reason why I find it so appalling that our government is so happy to do both things at the same time - kill off two large parts of our energy sector and pile up massive debt - is because Canada is a high energy consumption nation. We drive long distances to work, we need to heat homes for 40 million Canadians all winter long.... If we have high debt, and our credit rating drops, and we have to use our ever-depreciating dollar to import energy from abroad, and we have less people paying taxes from those high-income jobs that were lost.... That's a multi-faceted kick in the head. We're getting speed-bagged.

Production is at it's highest ever, but so is the GDP. For the second time - I never said that they were energy self sufficient Wilbur, go look again. But it's a better target to move towards than away from. Trump is an energy-friendly President. Get it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2018/07/29/u-s-crude-oil-production-and-exports-soar-to-record-highs/#7309c2e77793 This is what you need to know about oil production. From Forbes. Highest oil production ever. This year. Period. I'm not sure how you can argue that.

I said "moving towards energy self-sufficiency". Obama was moving away from it, just like Trudeau is.

Here's your litany of "verifiable facts" lol. Is this a serious allegation? "In about 82 or 83 I went to a party somewhere, I don't remember who I went with, how I got there, or how I got home, and my lifelong friend will testify for me (ok they say they never heard of this. So weird. Everyone says that. Not a single soul on earth will vouch for me. Weird.) but I have PTSD from the attempted rape so I need two doors on my house (lie) and I also have a fear of flying (lie) so I didn't want to come out here to testify under oath and believe it or not I'm the only person in the USA who didn't know that the Republican Senators offered to come to where I live to get my testimony"??? Is this a serious allegation? "I went to a party and BK and his friends gang raped a girl there. Then I went to like, 9 more of those gang rape parties." Like I said before - how good does a gang-rape party have to be in order for a teenage girl to go to a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th.....10th one? Does this sound credible to you? If someone said that about Obama would you call it a serious allegation? Bill Clinton? Which allegation was really serious? If Ford's was serious, why didn't Feinstein start an investigation after she spoke with her? Why did they sit on it? Why did Ford want to remain anonymous? Why was Ford's testimony COMPLETELY devoid of material facts? How can you do more than just a sham investigation into a 35 or 36 year old case with zero witnesses and no location? Can you VERIFY that it was actually a sham investigation? Prove that somehow they didn't take it seriously enough? Busted. You're the all sizzle no steak guy here reefer. Can you define how Trump has some corruption to be ruled on or is that opinion? Or show where Kavanuagh was proven to be corrupt? If a judge rules by the constitution is that authoritarianism? Every single thing you said was an unverifiable opinion. Every. Single. Thing. Strong opinions need accompanying facts.

Is this an admission of guilt? You're the quickest one here to dish out insults and opinions, and the last to debate facts. "The whiner who wrote the article says that McConnell cheated to block Obama's appointee, and to get Republican nominations in, and it's an erosion of the institution waaah" lol. That's the kind of thing that you and dialamah pass as facts around here. Fact is that McConnell had the hammer and he used it. VOTERS put the Republicans in charge of the Senate. The Senate did as they saw fit, using the power granted them by the electorate. They confirmed two judges who abide by the constitution, instead of judges who rule by the bench. That's the exact opposite of authoritarianism. Would you like me to verify these facts for you? Do you need a link? When you reply to this, and skip the chance to talk about the facts I presented, and refer to someone else's opinion which is long on accusations and devoid of facts, and call me a dumb-dumb, you're actually the guys whose political discourse isn't rooted in verifiable facts. Your whole thread is predicated on the OPINION that the Republicans appointed a guy who was "facing serious allegations" (even the Dems stopped saying he's guilty of anything, and it's a rare thing for them to stop belching out unsubstantiated accusations) of being a serial rapist, etc, etc. Do you want to take a second look at your opening post and tell me how much of it is verifiable fact....... how much is pure opinion? Prove that Kavanaugh is a serial rapist reefer....! We both know that's impossible. You've just been hoisted on your petard.

1) he said that living in a state of consumption started in the 70’s. I don’t know if you meant for this to be a Trump hatefest video but #1 has nothing to do with Trump. The US is creating more oil and gas than ever before under Trump, and he’s also reversing the death of the coal industry. Moving towards energy self-sufficiency is a three-pronged benefit to the country. Less money going out, more people working, more tax revenue. America is lucky Trump got elected. He’s also clawing back the trade deficit, which is what this is about. Yay Trump! 2) Democratic institutions remain democratic when they work within the framework of the constitution. Ie, judges interpret the constitution instead of changing it from the bench. Yay Gorsuch and Kavanaugh! 3) I’m pretty sure that if you look at the drug-dependent crowd you’re looking at left wingers. People who want hand-outs. The Bernie Sanders crowd. I don’t know many junkies that are against free stuff. Where is all this right wing extremism that everyone is talking about? Antifa and BLM are the only groups running amok, burning, looting and killing cops. 4) True 5) Canada is in a far worse state than the US in that regard. A condo in Surrey costs as much as a house in Vegas. Our government is busy killing our energy sector and piling up massive debt. Our manufacturing sector, small as it is, relies on the US economy. I’ll take Trump’s economic plan over our village idiot’s plan any day.

Your constant attempt to dodge counter-points by just pointing at his reputation, and your sandbox insults, are your only contribution to the thread. You could just as easily say “every assertion made by the author is 100% correct and everyone here is stupid but me.” You should go to the “orgy of trump-hatred site” that linda sarsour runs. That kind of thing is right up your alley.

Some people believe what they want to believe, and they disregard the rest. They're scared of cognitive dissonance. They'll follow anyone that comes along making even the most outrageous claims that fit their narrative, even if it's total BS at the grade 8 level. That's you and dialamah. "Ooh a girl claims that Kavanaugh tried to rape her in '82 or 83, it has to be true because we hate Trump! A guy said that this is the erosion of the democracy and that it's Hitleresque! So true!" If someoone came along who claimed to be an FBI haircut analyst and said "Trump and Hitler part their hair the same way and that's proof of Trump's evil intent" you would believe it. You would call people stupid for not believing it. That's your answer to everything.

I made a lot of factual statements here about this guy's blatant inaccuracies that you can't even deny. The situation in Germany when he got elected being one of them. For gawd's sake the fact that they were coming off 4 years of brutal trench warfare and a punitive depression were by far the determining factors leading up to the election of a Hitler. Trump isn't on a diabolical demagogue path. The appointment of his SCJs was perfectly above board and beneficial to the democracy. Trump isn't a divisive President, Obama is the poster boy for divisiveness. If Browning had half a brain he would know that. Trump's foreign policy isn't isolationist. This is just an attempt to back up CNN bullshit with assumptions, inaccuracies and a farcical comparison. Maybe C Browning would blow me away in a game of WWII Germany Trivial Pursuit but he's not good at figuring on what's going on around him. He's the type that learns by rote but can't connect dots by himself.

People understand it reefer. It’s not written in hieroglyphics, or containing difficult subject matter. They just think it’s all BS

Interesting to know that Ted Turner feels that way. I had no idea. Domestic affairs in the US have been a really big deal here ever since the rioting and looting started in Obama’s last years. Plus you had a string of shootings that were highly politicized events. Disgruntled kids, terrorists, the Vegas guy that shot up all the country music fans (imo that was probably because they were deemed to be NRA supporters). The Dems raced to make things about gun control and racist pigs, Republicans raced to make things about terrorism, the need for law and order and for protection in schools. It’s all really emotionally charged stuff. Issues here play out the same way as down there. Terrorists attack and our Liberals want more gun control. Our worst attack here was with a van but getting rid of guns here is the Liberals’ main priority for keeping us safe lol. I think the Dems down there watched how easily the MSM brought down our conservative government with the Duffygate scandal, that was all over $90K worth of travel expenses. That’s how we ended up with the village idiot in charge of our country. They’re trying to do the same thing with Russian collusion imo.

If CNN is to be believed he’s the cause of just about everything in the last 3 or 4 centuries. I think that being alive in the time of Trump is very interesting from a historical pov. Depending on what cahnnel you watch, he is a completely different person. People who live across the street from each other have wildly different opinions about who he is and what he has done so far. Is he a huge racist that’s riding Obama’s coattails and guiding the country to oblivion, or is he cleaning up Obama’s mess and destroying Islamic State while he’s working 80 hrs per week to make America great again? How will Trump be remembered 200 years from now? Probably one way or the other. Unfortunately for Trump, CNN’s version has a lot of people sucked in right now. It makes me doubt everything that I know about everyone who was alive before I was born when people are so divided over who Trump is, despite the fact that we have the ability to see so much with our own eyes.

Re: ecological overshoot - the Chinese government was onto this a long time ago when they implemented their 1 child only policy. They knew that 3+ kids per family was unsustainable. People who were in government for a long period of time saw how hard it was to keep finding the space to build more cities & roads, and how hard it was to keep finding more fresh water and more food. Compounding the problem of food was the fact that cities were taking over valuable farmland. That’s why they are taking over the fish stocks in the south china sea. A lot of liberal types over here thought it was a violation of human rights to stop people from having as many children as they want. They talk about eating just vegetables so that there’s enough food to stop global hunger (eating meat is a much larger strain on the environment). That’s true enough, but without limits on child birth, global hunger is a moving target. You can’t just “feed the kids”, mom and big sister will eat too, and they’ll have more and more kids. That’s “the tragedy of the commons”. People do what seems normal on a personal scale with no regard for the overall effect of what happens on a larger scale when everyone else is doing that exact same thing.

LMAO: https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2018/09/27/the-chill-of-solar-minimum/ I just read about this on FB, so I looked for other sources to verify it. There's a lot of talk on the net about a 2018 solar minimum, but I take everything I see on the internet (& CNN) with a grain of salt. I'm not saying this is true, false or anything else. It's just on the net.

If you have a problem with the entire system of "lifetime appointed judges" that's one thing, but there was no actual manipulation of the system to get the SCJs appointed. President appoints, Senate confirms. If the Dems didn't have a majority in the Senate when Obama was President then he was at the mercy of the Senate. He should have been a more popular President so that his Senators won their elections. One other major consideration, Trump made a list of all the judges from which he was going to choose his appointees BEFORE he got elected. The names Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were on that list, and Americans voted for Trump with full disclosure.