WestCanMan

I'm using your exact logic eyeball. You think it's not "forcing" someone to do something when you threaten to take their job away but it 100% is. People don't just change their occupation willy nilly. People build up holidays and get raises and get seniority and get promotions and they make friends and it's a massive thing to just give that up all of a sudden and start over. Maybe you worked in entry-level positions all your life, so going from McDonald's to being a Walmart greeter to being a junior girl Friday is no big deal for you, but for people who have worked their way into a good job and have a mortgage and some car payments and have their kids in sports or other expensive extracurricular activities it's not possible to just suddenly quit and go find a whole new line of work. Some people's kids are also getting expensive medical treatments which are covered by company policies, and they definitely won't be able to afford those drugs if they quit. Chemo can be thousands of dollars a month. Of course a person in that position can't just quit. You're just the worst kind of person on earth, eyeball. It's disgusting that you're so ok with people being forced to take the pseudovax which young people don't need, has dangerous side-effects and doesn't prevent the people who actually need protection from dying.

Force, as in "force". Force. Hundreds of thousands of Canadians were forced to take the vaccine. That's a grammatically proper English sentence and an accurate description of what happened here.

If someone had a gun to your daughter's head and said "give me your wallet", and you gave them your wallet, would it be accurate to say that you just chose to give them your wallet? You could have chosen to keep your wallet. You had a choice, right?

Dude, it's not my fault if you don't understand the definition of the word force. I already posted it for you. I understand it, you don't. Move on. Threatening to take someone's job away if they don't comply with your demands is called "forcing them to do something". If someone had a gun to your daughter's head and said "give me your wallet" would it be accurate to say that you just chose to give them your wallet? Stop playing stupid.

Here's how well the vaccines are keeping people out of ICU...

O M G. The timetable for that chart is right at the top. Dec 14 2020 (2020, like, not last Dec but the Dec before. 1.5 years ago. The exact date on which the first unimportant Canadians started getting the vax). Dec 14, 2020 is when that started. Get it? Dec 14, 2020. Keep that date in your head for a minute while you look at the next paragraph. On Dec 14 2020 we were right in the middle of flu season with Delta variant and there were Z E R O double vaxed Canadians and Z E R O triple vaxed Canadians for that entire time. 38M Cnadians were unvaxed, and virtually no one had the single + waiting period until mid-Feb. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? ONE WHOLE FLU SEASON WITH 38M UNVAXXED CANADIANS AND Z E R O DBL- AND TRIPLE-VAXXED CANADIANS. The unvaxxed deaths were probably at 5,000 by the end of May 2021, and there still wasn't even a chance for any double-vaxxed people to get covid yet. The chart has an entire flu season where the whole country was unvaxxed. Covid was still fairly new in 2020. That means that it was still a novel virus. Pretty much everyone here was exposed to covid between Jan 2020 and July 2021. Its "novel virus" status is gone now. Natural immunity exists within a lot of our population. The data set intentionally starts off on that date so that really stupid people will misinterpret it and think to themselves "Wow, most of the country is vaxed but most of the deaths are among the unvaxed." If the Chart started off in Sept of 2021 it would look entirely different. If the Chart started off on Dec 14 2021 then you'd see that 3x as many fully-protected people died of covid in the last 4 months. And that's pretty bad for the vax, because there weren't any triple-vaxxed yet on Dec 14 2021. That's when the first people started getting the booster. So, I doubt if you really understand this yet, because I already explained it to you many times, but just realize that most people do understand that chart now. Therefor you should probably stop name-calling and acting like I'm the idiot when you're the one who's completely clueless about what those charts actually show.

Yeah, it absolutely does. Look at the totals from the first picture and the second picture in my earlier post. The 2x and 3x vaxed deaths (combined) went up by more than 3 times as much as the unvaxed in that time frame. There were twice as many deaths among the 3x jabbed in that period. You didn't "explain" anything, you were just wrong a bunch of times. If you look at the entire time frame of that graph you'll notice that it goes back to the very first day that anyone was ever vaccinated in Canada. IE, a time when zero Canadians even had a single dose. IE, a time when there were 38M unvaxed Canadians and zero people who even had a first dose. That was also right in the middle of flu season. That was the time of year when elderly Canadians traditionally die from the flu. Of course the unvaxxed got off to a roaring head start in the death count when all 38M Canadians were unvaxed for the vast majority of a flu season and there weren't even any 1xers let alone 2xers. Grab a brain. You should never look at any graphs anywhere without thinking very critically about exactly what you're looking at. Back to the graphs themselves..... There wasn't a significant number of 2xers until mid-summer, a time when almost no one dies of the flu in Canada. Winter of 2021/22 was the first exposure of a significant number of vaxxed people to flu season. We just came out of that winter. It was the second flu season for the unvaxed, although this time there are less of us. (If you don't believe that covid is seasonal, look at the graphs of covid infections and deaths. They go up in winter, they flatten out in summer. That was the case back in 2020 when there were no pseudovaxxes and also in 2021. 2022 will be the same.)

That right there is classic fear/hate-mongering. Your lies and disinformation are getting to the point now where you're using them in an attempt to justify violence. When people here question whether or not our country's Naziesque manifestations are really sinister or if it's just coincidence that we are in lock step with Hitler's trajectory, I like to think that we're just gonna get to a certain point and then lose steam, but your post is the first evidence I've seen that we actually might be headed down that same path. Just out of curiosity, did you ever get to the point where you called Andrew Cuomo a killer, for sending infected people back into care homes and preventing them from being tested first? Because that actually was murder - it's the exact same thing as sending someone with smallpox into a maternity ward in a country that's never seen smallpox.

I'm focused on covid deaths in Cnada. Covid deaths on the planet. Covid deaths in the USA. FYI those aren't small data sets. FYI the vast majority of covid deaths are not from the unvaxxed, you're lying again. They're from double- and triple-vaxxed. Over 2/3 of the deaths in Canada are among double- and triple-vaxxed people. I showed you that stat, but it doesn't fit your narrative, so you ignored it, and you're lying now. FYI, all of the stats from every time and place show that regardless of whether we're talking about pre-Pfizer days or countries that are almost entirely vaccinated, the vast vast vast majority of deaths come from the small percentage that isn't vaxxed of people who are extremely old and have one or more (usually more) extremely serious health issues like diabetes, heart disease, etc. Are you actually pretending not to know that too? You're lying by omission. Shocker. FYI not all the triple-vaxxed are at risk. Most of the teachers in BC are 3xers, I know that for a fact because our daughter is a teacher here. She didn't get her booster because she stopped having her period after the jabs, but everyone assumes she is, and they talk about it a lot there. FYI there's not a data set on this planet that says anything remotely like: "People between 5-50 need the pseudovaccines", is there Oksana? Whenever I see a stupid screed like yours I always wonder, how can that person be stupid enough to say those moronic things yet smart enough to write them all down with reasonably good spelling and grammar? Just kidding, I have no doubts about what's going on with you: you're a liar and a propagandist. You know that the pseudovax doesn't prevent the spread of covid at all. (That's why omicron got here from SA so fast, when only the pseudos were allowed to fly, and that's why almost everyone in Canada got omicron, regardless of pseudovax status.) Therefor you know that there's no point in pseudovaxxing children and young adults. Therefor you know that the pseudovax mandates are completely bogus, and all about money & control. Like I said earlier, I have no doubts about your intelligence because of your ability to write. That means that you know you're just lying. There are things that I posted, which you read, so I know that you're aware of them, yet to choose to pretend that you're unaware of them and then you go back to prattling off disinformation and lies.

Case Fatality Rate. The number of people who died per the number of known cases.

Dude, you advocated for vaccine mandates like a bot. It's all in my post above. You're busted. I posted facts about the covid vaxies which you can't dispute. That's well documented now. You're here to blather and be snotty but you can't discuss relevant facts. You could just say "I agree with everything that CBC says" and save yourself some time.

FYI Sweden has 0.007 CFR and Canada had a .01 CFR, so only 0.7% of Swedes died of covid, we were at 1%. FYI omicron was in SA and only vaxied people were flying, it came here and spread like wildfire among vaxied people and unvaxied alike. ALL of the spread of omicron is 100% on the vaxied. We did more than enough to stop covid, the mask mandates, closures and the vaxies didn't work. So far, the only thing on record that seems to have worked, or the only time that anyone seemed to get really lucky, was when the Uttar Pradesh gov't handed out ivermectin and vitamin packets. If we can get down to Sweden's CFR of 7 deaths per 1,000 people we can just ignore covid. FYI CFR is only based on known cases. Lots of people get covid and remain asymptomatic, or get very mild symptoms so the actual fatality rate of covid is much lower than that. And those deaths are only among people who were already dying anyways. Covid isn't really a problem, the cost of covid is a massive problem. Almost an existential threat.

You regurgitate as well as the best of Stalin's beloved useful idiots, and when no one's listening to your idiocy anymore you go to insults. FYI I'd actually like it if the pseudovaccines worked. I think that we'd all love an end to covid. The facts remain: -healthy people don't need the vaxies, -the vaxies don't stop people from getting covid, -the vaxies don't stop people from spreading covid, (herd immunity was a big promise, and a total lie) -the vaxies don't stop people from dying from covid, -people who don't need the vaxies can also get myocarditis from it, -women have been known to miss their periods for months after taking the vaxies. Don't get snotty just because you can't dispute the facts. If you want to take a run at adulting, why don't you try to give a good reason why a healthy person might need the vaxie? Try to make the case that vaxied people don't spread covid (despite the fact that Fausti himself admitted that the viral load in the nasopharynx is the same for unvaxed and pseudovaxed people who are infected). Try to make the case that people who took the vaxies don't die from covid, despite the fact that we know that thousands of triple vaxied people died of covid, Try to make the case that healthy young men don't get myocarditis, or that women don't actually miss the period for several months after vaxing. You have nothing Flyer, you just toe the party line like a good little boy. You said that you don't advocate for the vaxies and the mandates, yet here you are proclaiming your support for the vaxie mandates. FYI, that's advocating. Either you're an idiot, a liar, or both.

The left's version of ROE vs Wade being "an interpretation of (a combination of things in) the constitution" is too flimsy of a connection to amount to a proper decision. Even Justice Ginsberg said as much. The topic of abortion is important enough to require actual legislation from elected officials, not just a judicial connect-the-dots decision. That's called "ruling from the bench". Judicial interpretations of the constitution regarding gay marriage etc still stand when there's not a 3rd party involved - for example, gay marriage is between consenting adults. Judges can rule that consenting adults can get married regardless of gender and that's an easy one to uphold. I find it ironic that people who believe in my body, my choice for abortion don't believe in my body, my choice for pseuodvaxes.

You're just regurgitating and defending propaganda even though you don't really understand it all Flyer. If you think about it, the pseudovaxes are so far from being "as advertised" that they're unrecognizable from the original description. If the vaccines actually were necessary and if they were "safe and effective" there would be no reason for people to balk at the opportunity to get them. As it stands: -healthy people don't need the vaxies, -the vaxies don't stop people from getting covid, -the vaxies don't stop people from spreading covid, (herd immunity was a big promise, and a total lie) -the vaxies don't stop people from dying from covid, -people who don't need the vaxies can also get myocarditis from it, -women have been known to miss their periods for months after taking the vaxies. But people like you are still advocating for the government to continue forcing young men and women who don't need the vaxies to take them and risk the serious side-effects.

If you're keeping score: The Vaxxies don't stop you from getting covid The Vaxxies don't stop you from spreading covid The vaxies won't get us to herd immunity The vaxxies are not safe - they cause myocarditis and cause women to lose their period for several months and we still don't know about any possible long-term effects The Vaxxies don't stop you from ending up in the hospital The Vaxxies don't stop you from ending up in the ICU. The Vaxxies don't stop you from dying - several thousand double and triple vaxxied Canadians are dead now.

I used country-sized and global-sized samples. If you had the slightest clue about science, math or statistics you'd know that's not "cherry picking" lol. All you have is SOME PROPAGANDA FROM THE PEOPLE WHO PROFIT THE MOST FROM THE VACCINES! It's like if I was telling you about how awesome Trump is by reading one of his own tweets to you ffs. People are lying to you Oksana. You're their stooge. Toady. Useful idiot. One of their sheeple. They say "VAX, PEON!" and you say "HOW OFTEN?" If you don't think they lied to you, look again at the laundry list of backpedles they did: 1) The vaccines will be safe and they will work. They will get us to herd immunity. 2) Some of the vaccines are safe (sorry dead dudes) and they work! 3) Some of the vaccines are mostly safe, they cause a bit of mere myocarditis in the healthiest people. They still work though. You might just get a bit sick. They will keep people out of the hospital and out of the ICU. 4) Some of the vaccines are mostly safe, they cause a bit of mere myocarditis in the healthiest people and women sometimes stop having their period for several months - it's probably no big deal. The vaccines still work though. You might just get a bit sick. They will keep people out of the hospital and out of the ICU. 5) The vaccines still work though. You might just get hospitalized but you won't end up in ICU. You still won't spread covid though, even if you have the same viral load in your nasopharynx. 6) The vaccines still work though. You might end up in ICU but you won't die (tens of thousands of people were actually dying though when they said that). You still won't spread covid though, even if you have the same viral load in your nasopharynx. 7) The vaccines still work though. Thousands of people will still die even after they're vaxed, but it's mostly the elderly and immunocompromised. Vaxed people still spread less covid though, even if they have the same viral load in their nasopharynx. 8} WE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HERD IMMUNITY! Just take the vaccines. Look at the stats from our lackeys. They say somethin' ? . I'm gonna take a break from being on TV for a while.

So you started off by saying that it was no big deal if people lost their jobs because they could just grab another job somewhere like it was no big deal, I showed you how stupid your comment was, and you just replied with "Wah". Then you accuse me of being the one who isn't thinking. Lmao. Good talk, eyeball.

I'm surprised that you can even read. 1) If by "their own business reasons" you mean - they didn't want to lose their business, Sure thing flyer 2) The analogy was bang-on. You can pseudovax as much as you want and it doesn't offend anyone. Get a needle a day if you want, good for you. That means that covid can only kill you or put you in the ICU at worst. 4) If the vax was working then the case fatality rate in the US in the US would be lower than that of the rest of the world, because they had the vaxes longer than anyone else and they have more people vaxed than the global average. The CFR for the US is exactly equal to that of the entre rest of the world, right since the beginning of covid. 1.2% in the US, 1.2% for the entire rest of the world, right since the beginning of covid. 3) Saved the best for last. YES, YOU DO "TELL" PEOPLE WHAT TO DO. You're like one of the people in Nazi Germany who went along with all of the Nazis' propaganda and backed them every step of the way. People like you didn't get a job at the local gas chamber, but they were vocal supporters of said gas chamber. Re: the pseudovax - you go along with the vax pass, the discrimination, and you fervently support the government's use of force to vax people. You're one of the sheeple. Trudeau counts on people like you to get behind his idiotic propaganda and act like everything he does is ok when it's clearly not.

That was pure stupidity. Do you understand that some people have worked at their jobs for a decade or more? Have pensions there? Lots of holidays? They put their noses to the grindstone for a lot of years and now they have it easier, make more money, etc, and they have to give it all up just because they don't want to take a vaccine with known, harmful side effects? One which they know for certain they don't need? And what about people like nurses who lost their jobs and obviously won't find more work in that field - if you can be turfed for not having the vax then you can definitely be refused a job for not having the vax. I hate doing all of your thinking for you eyeball. I really do.

They did it because they don't trust our government and they didn't want their businesses locked down again. No one can afford that. We felt that pressure because we own a business ourselves. People just assumed that we were vaccinated and we didn't tell them any different. Not within my own veins it doesn't. That doesn't mean that I'm happy about the fact that other people were forced. Only a sick bastard would be happy about that. No one is besmirching you for your choice to get the jab yourself. You can say that your testicles identify as old ladies and get 3 shots in each nut if you want to, and I won't give a rip. Your opinion that other people have to do what you want them to is what you're getting chastised for. If you believe the vax works and you got the vax then you shouldn't have to worry about what other people have. If the vaxes aren't getting us to herd immunity when our pop is 80% vaxed, like we were told they would, then why should we keep trusting them? They said that the vaccines would work, then that we'd just get a bit sick, then they said that we might end up in hospital but not ICU, then ICU but not dead, then it was just normal that thousands of 2x and 3x jabbed people die in a 3 month span. How far do we have to move the goalposts in order to consider the jab a vaccine success story? Enough already. The Pfizer blankie is there for people who want it, there's no justification at all for those liars to be able to force anyone to take it, period.

We'll never know how effective the vaxes are because propagandists who benefit massively from dosing the whole country twice/year control all of the information. "Vaxing" 30M Canadians twice a year with a few CCs of containing a microgram of placebo, at $20 a pop, is the most lucrative business in the history of the world. That's 60M doses x $20 each is $1.2 Billion. Each shot is .25ml, so 4,000 shots is 1L of water. 60M / 4,000 = 15,000L of water. For $1.2B we get 15,000L of water. That's $80,000/L. And we pay for the needles ourselves, plus the cost of drones to inject people. All that and still there were more covid deaths under Biden, who started with a vax, than there were under Trump. Hmmmm......

It's all bullshit. Total lie. There were more than twice as many triple jabbed deaths as unjabbed deaths in the charts I showed you. In order for the death rate to be 20x higher for unvaxed there would have to be 40x as many triple jabbed as unjabbed and that's absolutely not the case. Propaganda says that 54% of Canadians over 12 are 3x-jabbed, so if only 1.35% of Canadians over 12 are unjabbed then you're right on track ? Just a word of advice: when you're working on a math problem and it seems like your answer is batshit crazy, check it again.

Your anti-Trump screed is just pure drivel. Democrats in the US did everything that they could to advance covid into the US early on. The only thing that they fought against in the first half of 2019 was HCQ for some bizarre reason. It was like someone kicked a hornet's nest, but in this case it was a lie factory. "HCQ kills people! HCQ turns people blind! Trump is trying to profit from HCQ sales! Only the vaccines will be safe and effective!" The leftist stupidity was off the charts. Literally every one of those comments was laced with layers of stupidity. Like everything else that you've said, this was just entirely stupid. 1) The Case Fatality Rate in the US is 1.2%, exactly like the global CFR since the beginning of covid - 1.2%. America had the pseudovaxes a long time before anyone else, and a very long time before countries outside of the G20, so even though their vax rate is only about 8% higher than the rest of the world at this moment, the US has had a massive advantage in vaccine usage. Still - they're exactly the same as the world avg, which goes right back to Jan 2019 when no one was jabbed. How's that for a sample size? 2) Vax-hesitancy in the US is another topic that you have no clue about. FYI the vax rate among blacks is the lowest of anyone in the country, and they're primarily Democrats who toe the party line to a fault. They don't listen to anything from RW sources, their hesitancy stems from things like the Tuskegee Experiment. It actually makes a lot of sense for black people, who were trained by the Dems to hate and distrust Trump, to say no to the vax. 3) "RW disinformation" is just another idiotic Dem farce like Russian collusion. The vast majority of covid disinformation actually comes from the people who told you that Andrew "The Covid Killer" Cuomo and Justin "Basement Boy" Trudeau were covid heroes. FACT: pseudovaxes did do a lot of harm to a lot of people who had absolutely nothing to fear from covid. FACT: the pseudovaccines didn't slow the spread of covid at all. From the time that omicron broke out in SA to the time that almost everyone in NA had omicron was about two weeks. It came to NA on airplanes that were 100% made up of dbl-jabbed ppl. The high jab rates here (80% and up) did nothing to slow it down. Jabbed people got just as sick as everyone else. Now jabbed people are dying like crazy, especially 3x=jabbed. IE, the pseudovaxes did nothing against omicron. They were like a screen door on a submarine. FYI people who are morbidly obese, have diabetes and/or cancer and the extremely elderly with serious health issues are the only people who were at more than a 0.0001% risk from covid. Aside from them the CFR is less than that of the seasonal flu. The vax hysteria was just a big sell job from the left. If you're healthy and triple-jabbed you basically have the deeds to 3 bridges that you don't actually own.

Your post was pretty decent by your standards, still pretty stupid though. FYI "Canada" is not a small sample size. We have 40M people here. It's a "country-sized" sample. You may have changed your own internal definition of what vaccinated means in order to suit your C19 vax-fantasy, but Fauci hasn't changed the dictionary yet. Here's how to use vaccination in a sentence: "People who were vaccinated against polio are immune to it, and polio deaths are unheard of in countries where the vaccination rate is high". Here's how not to use immunize in a sentence: "Tens of thousands of Canadians who were triple-vaccinated against covid still got sick enough to be hospitalized in just a few months, and thousands of them died. The vaccinations aren't doing anything to slow or stop the spread of covid at all. It's highly successful." Here's how to spell vaccines: vaccines. Make a note of that too. OMG are you getting paid to write this shit? In Canada we had no triple vaxed in mid Dec of 2021. We still had millions of unvaxed. Yet the number of triple vaxed deaths here was quite comparable over a period of time in which the number of 3xers was almost zero, then equal and then higher than unjabbed. But in that period the unjabbed stayed unjabbed for every single day of it, the 3xers were only 3xers for part of it. Did you forget that your current president and VP said that they weren't going to get pseudo-vaxed because Trump said it? Did you forget that the Dems were still busy lying about Ukrainian collusion when Trump was already busy fighting covid? Are you aware that the Dems'/CNN's covid fighting champion, NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who won an Emmy for battling covid and calling Trump names (using talking points that he was given from the CNN anchors), was sending people who were still infected with covid back into care homes, he barred them from being tested for covid, and then when massive numbers of care home patients started dying he had his people fudge the numbers to make it look like there wasn't a problem there? Do you know why he lost his job? Theoretically he grabbed a few butts. That's no joke. Do you know that some of the earliest forms of biological warfare included catapulting corpses over castle walls, or sending women with venereal diseases to act as prostitutes and infect enemy soldiers? What Cuomo did was exactly the same thing that people engaging in biological warfare did, but the fact that he "possibly" grabbed some asses was much worse than that, according to your leaders. None of the stupidest people in America know this, but more than a week after Trump took the drastic action of blocking people who had visited China within 14 days, DeBlasio was still telling NYers to "ride the subway like normal." FYI 4.3M people cram into that subway every day, it's like a massive petri dish that's purpose-built for spreading infectious diseases all across a massive metropolitan area. None of the stupidest people in America know this, but almost a full month after Trump took the drastic action of blocking people who had visited China within 14 days, Nancy Pelosi was making a televised display of walking around in a massive crowd of strangers hugging people. None of the stupidest people in Canada and America know this, but if blocking people who had visited China within 14 days was racist, then it was also racist when Trudeau blocked flights from India to stop the Delta variant from getting here. None of the stupidest people in Canada and America figured this out, but if blocking people who had visited China within 14 days "didn't work because viral DNA evidence shows that covid just snuck in through countries that weren't blocking flights from China....". Do you know where I'm going with this? F it, I don't care, I'm just gonna leave you hanging. Do you know that the stupidest people in the world still don't scratch their heads about the fact that the WHO, which rakes in tens of $Billion$ a year and whose main job is to stop pandemics, told people that H2H transmission wasn't happening when there was ample evidence that it was, and while the Chinese gov't was acting like it was? Do you know that the stupidest people in the world refused to even contemplate the fact that covid might have come from China's only BSL4 lab, which was right at the exact ground zero of the pandemic? They all agreed that "it had to have come from the wetmarket there, which is one of 1 several thousands of wetmarkets in China, and one of 400 wetmarkets there which sell exotic animals like bats"? Trump was smart enough to start operation warp speed and our PM was so dumb that he didn't even order any of the vaxes. He gambled on China's vaxes and lost, so we were last in line to get pseudos from our closest neighbour, and we had to poach 1.9M pseudovaxes from the 3rd world charity pool to get started. Go fish Oksana.