WestCanMan

That's all propaganda. No one will ever admit to anything their side did that was wrong or which escalated tensions to the point of war. The Biden administration drone-striked a carload of civilians and lied about its occupants for two weeks. The US nuked Japan twice. The second Iraq war was based on lies. Depending on whose stats you use or what metric you use to count war deaths, there were maybe 110,000 violent deaths in Iraq, maybe 300,000 violent deaths in Iraq, 600,000 excess deaths in Iraq, over 1M excess deaths in Iraq... Who knows? Did the US bomb the only baby formula plant in Iraq, leading to the deaths of thousands of children, or was that plant making chemical weapons? Did 500,000 Iraqi children die as a result of bombing that plant + economic sanctions, or is that number far lower? Don't believe me, your mom, CTV, Fox News, The PCs, GOP, Dems, Libs, CNN, Al-Jazeera, or anyone else if they tell you they know, because either they really don't know, or they know because they have top secret security clearances and it's their job to keep secrets (lie). Ukraine is not the pure, innocent victim that our MSM will have you believe. The Americans would have attacked Ukraine too if they were in Russia's position, don't kid yourself.

WTF are you talking about? The topic was about Trudeau, and this thread is about an entirely Canadian topic, you deflected to talk about Trump because you couldn't address the banana republic justice system here. Clinesmith pleaded guilty. McCabe just sued for his pension, not to say that he didn't deserve to be fired, because it's known that he lied. Strzok was fired because he was conducting his investigation in a biased manner. Clapper and Brennan were on TV saying things under oath which are now known to have been lies at the time they said them. Hillary was the ringleader of the group that lied to the FISA court. The judge there said that their behaviour was so egregious that it cast a shroud of doubt over every investigation ever conducted by the FBI. Van Jones said that the collusion investigation was a big nothingburer after the FBI had already reached the conclusion, but long before the MSM and the FBI admitted that it was a farce. Yes, it was a witch hunt. How nice of you to finally notice. Geez, I wonder what changed? If you want to put a stop to YOUR deflection, you can talk about why Tamara Lich needed to go back to jail just for receiving the Freedom Award (aka embarrassing the Supreme Leader), or for doing something that wasn't actually a violation of her bail?

Now you're just lying. You know exactly what "pro-life" means and it has nothing to do with any of those other things. She's conflating issues, which is exactly what I said, and even so she's wrong anyways. If the Dems were pro-life they'd be pro-police and they wouldn't be letting criminals keep their guns. Rifles kill about 400 people a year in the US. Handguns kill 20X as many people. The Dems are adamant that the police can't disarm criminals. That's the exact opposite of "pro-life". Aramco is all over his racing uniform. FYI that's a Saudi refinery. https://www.aramco.com/# Vettel is a Saudi oil shill who's lying about NA oil like a good little Saudi puppet. It's laughable to see leftards shrugging off Trudeau's crimes, the Bidens' crimes, the connection between Saudi oil and the global warming anti-NA-oil initiatives, and 2020 election cheating and then put so much stock in Russian collusion and the Pflacebo. Aristedes: "Ok, there's a Saudi oil refinery logo on his racing gear but that doesn't mean that he's connected to them in any way. He's a global warming champion!" ? Holy dumbfucks, Batman! F1 does NOTHING BUT BURN OIL!!!!!! It's their fucking JOB! The cars just go in circles burning hydrocarbons at a furious pace for 2+ hours, then they get loaded on trucks and planes which burn several times as much oil and go all across the globe. His sport is literally a shrine to burning fossil fuels. Then when he's not burning fossil fuels, he says "Get your fossil fuels from my sponsors, not their competitors." and you fall for it like the king of chumps. Oh gimme a break ffs. You said Drs: I quoted you. You're the one who was acting like Drs could always be trusted and they never have any ulterior motives. I proved you wrong, then you tried to switch the topic. And FYI, public health officials are no better. Dr Fauci is arguably the biggest covid weasel in NA outside of Cuomo and Trudeau. He talked about vaccines and herd immunity all the time. He said that vaccinated people didn't need to worry about getting infected. They wouldn't get sick. They wouldn't get as sick. They would't go to hospital. They wouldn't end up in ICU. Then he said that he never said that the vaccines would get us to herd immunity. Then he said that they wouldn't die. Then it was, OK they die, but just the elderly and the ones with life-threatening medical conditions... Uh, that's the exact same as it always has been for the unvaccinated, but he would never acknowledge that before, he just pimped the fear as if it was equal for everyone. Are you honestly trying to tell me that Fauci isn't a fucking weasel? Are you honestly trying to tell me that Fauci isn't the biggest fucking weasel (not counting politicians) that we've ever seen on TV? Get your head out of your ass, Aristedes. Not for my sake, nor for this forum. Do it for yourself. Do it because it's the right thing to do. Stop being a fucking liar and weasel. You'll feel better instantly.

Geez, your comments get stupider and more idiotic every time you post. The Dems never actually got a single conviction on a single person that was related to Russian collusion. The only actual crimes that are known to have been committed were by Hillary, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, McCabe, Steele, Sussman and Clinesmith - all FBI or CIA agents that worked for the Dems, plus a couple of Hillary's associates. You followed a 4-yr witch hunt, and then decided that Trump can't call known cheaters & criminals "cheaters". The 2000 mules movie contains a lot of proof that the 2020 election was stolen. As does common sense. You know the Dems are cheaters as well as I do.

No one worth listening to is there. The people who would encourage you to believe that Republicans are there are liars. 15 weeks is what's widely regarded as sensible. After 15 weeks there needs to be a better reason than "I changed my mind". I lost my job and my husband ran off with his cousin is a good reason. The baby has severe Down's syndrome and won't live 3 months is a good reason. There are good reasons and there are insufficient reasons for ending a human life. It gets tricky. It's a serious topic which deserves extremely serious consideration, and no liars should be allowed to have a voice. They just muddy the waters.

If that's true, it's retarded and it won't last. It's almost political suicide to take such an idiotic stance so I really doubt it's that extreme.

She says stupid things every night, so be warned. She's conflating two separate topics, and saying something completely stupid, so she's just wrong. "Pro-life" is a well-known term which means that you're in favour of protecting the lives of the unborn once they've reached a certain stage of their gestation period. Being in favour of health care doesn't mean that you wouldn't stab a baby in the head ten minutes before it's born. Therefor it's not "pro-life", as we've come to understand that term. She's being duplicitous and you're her stooge. Sort of, but not in the way that Dems would restrict guns. Dems aren't against criminals possessing guns at all, and those are the guns that take almost all of the lives lost every single year. The lives that would be saved by the Dems' version of gun control are a drop in the bucket. It works for Saudi Arabia, because the people who fight for climate change aren't fighting against Saudi oil, they're fighting for Saudi Oil, and against North American oil production. Sebastien Vettel is a perfect example - he has a Saudi Oil co. as a sponsor and he rages against Alberta oil. Sebastien Vettel isn't pro-life, he's a bought and paid for mouthpiece. The people who fly in private jets and then pontificate about climate change aren't pro-life, they're liars & hypocrites and you're their stooge. Which doctors? Did you know that in the US & Canada doctors can receive consideration from drug companies for prescriptions which they dole out and they don't have to disclose it to you? For example, they can be receiving nice vacations to Caribbean Islands so that they can attend conferences about the benefits of Lipitor every year, as long as they give out enough prescriptions, and they can prescribe Lipitor to you without telling you about your contribution to their vacays. So do you really need Lipitor, or is it just beneficial to your doctor if you take it? You don't actually know, you just take it. Like an 18-yr-old taking a Pflacebo. FYI not all doctors are in favour of the Pflacebo, they're just censured if they're skeptical about it. That's not a real thing. It's like if I said "Pinning kids down and torturing them until they accept the vax is pro-choice". No one does that to kids. It's just a straw man argument. Republicans are against stupid bullshit, so of course they're at odds with you & Chelsea. Republicans are pro-sense. It makes sense to allow abortions up to a certain period of gestation. Republicans are in favour of that, as they should be. Republicans are against allowing abortions past a certain period of gestation. That makes sense. At both ends of each spectrum there are idiots. People who would force teens to have babies which are the product of rape are stupid and they should be disregarded. People who think that a woman should have the right to kill a perfectly healthy baby, at full term, the moment before birth are idiots, and they should be disregarded. The Republicans are at a healthy part of the bell curve, where common sense and human rights intersect. You can treat a healthy fetus like a tumour up until 15 weeks or some such. Then you need a very good reason to treat it like a tumour. Mainstream Dems are creating laws which say that the unborn have no human rights at any time during a pregnancy and that's sickening. A 9.5 month-old fetus isn't like a tumour in any way. They have dreams. They choose to drink more amniotic fluid if their mom eats something yummy, or less if their mom smokes or drinks alcohol. They're not tumours. They're humans inside of a womb. Chelsea Handler doesn't understand that. Chelsea Handler is a living abortion.

1) Of course you're making an assumption. You have absolutely no way of knowing how much pressure was put on that judge by the PMO, and Trudeau is absolutely on the record for getting away with doing that exact thing. In fact, there's almost a zero percent chance that pressure didn't come down from the PMO. 2) Of course you support the charges, you've been 100.0% supportive of all the government's illegal and immoral actions right from the start. 3) I get that you don't believe Trudeau is an idiot, and that makes sense because compared to you he's brilliant. That doesn't mean that people with an IQ over 100 aren't aware of his sad mental state.

It's the height of stupidity and hypocrisy for you to act like Trump shouldn't be allowed to accuse the Dems of cheating when they're known cheaters, and after you spent 4 years supporting the Dems' own accusations of election fraud which were only supported by.... the Dems' own fraud and their misuse of the FBI.

That is a pure assumption on your part, and is highly unlikely based on the PM's proven history of controlling the judiciary and using the police to beat up peaceful protesters. How is it that you support charges of "mischief, obstructing police, counselling others to commit mischief and intimidation" against the leader of a peaceful protest but you don't support charges against BLM's leaders, or against Kamala Harris and other Dems, who encouraged actual rioting, serious assaults and even murders? That reads as "I don't support Trudeau but I even less support Trudeau and his followers (which includes you)". ?

I actually thought that was what they were sending her back for now. I didn't realize that there was a new round of banana republic justice meted out from the PMO.

Leftards are literally the dumbest and the worst people on the planet. You guys all supported violent rioting which was based on lies, cost billions of dollars in damages, saw over 2,000 police officers get injured, over 20 people were killed, thousands were assaulted, and you're all ok with that. Then you say "Tamara Lich received a freedom award so she has to go to jail." ? Do you understand that "received a freedom award" just means "embarrassed the supreme leader"? Is that where we are now in Canada? Embarrassing our Supreme Leader is a violation of one's bail conditions?

That actually fits the same pattern with covid: the people in the real positions of power are self-serving 70-yr-olds, and their attitude is "screw the young". I wish I could take credit for the pun but the choice of words was coincidental.

It's your own leftist sheeple who are saying that men need to have access to abortions, are you saying that leftists are misogynistic? 41 seconds in she's asked, "Can men become pregnant, and have abortions?", and she says "Yes." She's a certified leftard. That's the opinion that you'll eventually be regurgitating here, even while knowing that it's untrue. Now ya know.

You can repeat what you hear on CNN, good for you. Unfortunately, none of it is true, and every adult in NA with an IQ over 80 knows that by now.

Blah, blah, blah. You always want to whine about Trump but you can't find anything that he ever did that was as bad as the gesundheitspass, freezing bank accts, beating peaceful protesters, or hatemongering. You give humans a bad name.

If you're not a socialist at 18 you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative at 30 you don't have a brain.

They need drama and histrionics because common sense doesn't appeal to their base. Screaming, hysterical girls are leftist porn. "Look how much this 17-yr-old cares about this issue. You should be freaking out too!"

Liberal policy makes liberal cities unliveable, so the people who voted for their own destruction move to areas where people who are much smarter than them elected better politicians. The consolation is that not all leftists are dumb enough to remain loyal to the people who destroyed their cities, that's why Biden has the lowest approval rating ever. You may be able to ignore the catastrophes caused by leftist dolts in the USA so that you can belch propaganda & platitudes about leftist from Canada, but people in the US actually have to live in those cities. The crime and destruction matters to them. Eventually it gets too big to ignore. Just imagine that you live in a pretty city and you like to drink coffee with a friend at a downtown cafe sometimes, but you can't anymore because it's no longer safe, or there's human feces all over the street, or because you don't like to see shops boarded up after looting that occurred when there wasn't even a riot, or because the police were defunded and they're no longer investigating rape cases against adults, or because robbing a store at gunpoint is no longer considered a felony so people just do it all the time now. Plus your kid's school feels like they can talk to your kid about maybe having a sex change, and you're legally banned from discouraging them. Not all leftists are too stupid to connect the dots. They know who appointed their DA. They know which politicians support violence and defunding the police. They know why there's massive inflation. They know better than to vote Dem/Lib again.

OMG you just can't wake up from your stupid dream world. The Dems are the ones who committed crimes and had the FBI commit crimes for them on their 4-year campaign to declare the 2016 election illegitimate. The Dems also cheated at the 2016 debates, having CNN give their candidate the questions beforehand. They also cheated to help Hillary win the Dem primary - their stooges in the DNC actually thought that they could choose their own candidate lol, - no so. So the fact of the matter remains that the Dems cheated before the election and then committed known crimes after the election to try to overturn it. Then the Dems had tens of thousands of ballots illegally stuffed into drop-boxes in the swing states in the 2020 election, and their MSM declared that the 2020 election was perfectly secure right on election night, before a winner was even known. Why would the cheaters who were so convinced that the 2016 election was stolen suddenly feel like "they knew" the 2020 election was completely free from controversy? Because they knew the fix was in. They knew that ballot boxes were being stuffed. They knew that there were trucks filled with Biden ballots rolling in from out of state in the middle of the night. And any talk about a lack of election integrity in 2020 is considered treasonous now. Trump didn't actually do any of the BS that you're accusing him of. He appointed judges who follow the letter of the constitution. One of the even voted to support Roe V Wade. I've never spent a moment supporting an attack on the election, you're lying again. I've never spent a moment supporting any rioting, unlike you. Again, I know that it feels to you like Trump was somehow a fascist, even though he didn't adopt any fascist ways and means, but that's only because you were told to hate him. And FYI no one who ever told you to hate him actually gave legitimate reasons to think of him as a fascist. Trump isn't the leader who created a gesundheitspass, froze the bank accounts of dissidents, spewed obvious lies/hate/fear-mongering on national TV, abused the power of the PMO to get money into the pockets of his mom and brother, created a law and then assumed control of the AG just to protect a criminal entity, sent the police to beat peaceful protesters after they had surrendered on their knees, had pastors jailed, etc. The only thing that you can say about Trump that even compares to Trudeau's hatemongering and fascism is "Trump called all immigrants animals", but that was just another case of the MSM and the Dems lying. You're actually a fascist at heart. You even support forcing people to take a fake vaccine that they wouldn't even need if it worked. You're the prototypical useful idiot/fascist supporter.

I know that it feels to you like you are correct, but it only appears that way from an extremely short-term, limited viewpoint which completely ignores world history. Just remember that in the grand scheme of things, democracy is still just a short-lived experiment. As herd mammals we actually expect to be ruled by a basic dictator, and human history is dominated by all kinds of dictators such as kings, emperors, tsars, chiefs, etc. Presidents and Prime Ministers are relatively new, and they still only run a percentage of the planet in a true, healthy-functioning democratic fashion. In this day and age there are plenty of examples of "presidents" who actually are dictators, propped up by an oligarchy. FYI maintaining a healthy, functioning democracy requires a balance of power. Checks and balances. The judiciary is a huge part of that, and it's a big deal when the government assumes unlawful control of that branch. The media is a huge part of that, and it's a big deal when the government assumes control of the media. Elections are obviously huge and when there are legitimate questions about something that went wrong we should all care - no one should ever say "my side won so let's keep a lid on it." Controlling the federal police is a nasty power grab and you should be outraged by it. Still, you admire your leaders when they do all of those things. Sorry but democracy wasn't intended to just last a few years. Tyranny wasn't to be be averted in the short term alone. The constitution was designed to serve the American people in perpetuity. The last line of defence in the US is the well-armed militias. They're like a nuclear deterrent, you hope that you never have to use them but it would be unwise not to have them. There's a thin blue line of law enforcement officers that works for the people and when it doesn't, it's not strong enough to just overwhelm everyone in the US. That's not the case in Shanghai because the police and military have all the guns. No matter what the gov't says or does, the people have no choice but to abide and to suffer if need be. Do you think that the Chinese dictators would allow the peasants there to be armed? How desperate would they be to fool their citizens into giving up their guns peacefully? Or to force them? The Dems are actively trying to thwart democracy in every election cycle, using the IRS, CIA and FBI as their own partisan attack dogs, fomenting racial division, and painting the "nasty white men with guns" as the biggest threat to democracy. It's all completely insane. If the FBI under Trump were actively breaking laws to imprison Hillary Clinton you'd instantly recognize the threat to democracy, but you don't like Trump so you think that breaking laws to make him look bad was ok. That's purely idiotic. Strzok/McCabe/Clinesmith/Sussman is the biggest story in the last 100 years of democracy. Things like WWII are obviously bigger events, but in terms of the state of democracy worldwide, the fact that the US doesn't have a healthy democracy is of an enormous magnitude, but the media has you looking at it through a distorted, unhealthy lens. You're the exact person who's a threat to democracy. You're the exact person who would go along with the Nazi rise to power in Germany in the 1930s. You just refuse to acknowledge it because your leaders commend you on your virtue. They'll keep complimenting you and you'll keep supporting their overreach until elections are a total sham. We'll be completely disarmed, and injecting what we're told to inject by the gov't and their ministry of propaganda, and that's not democracy. It's just a basic dictatorship that propped up by useful idiots like you. Your grandchildren will never understand the freedoms that existed when you were a child unless you wake the fuck up.

No. It applies to weapons so that the people have the ability to defend themselves, even from a tyrannical gov't if necessary. You're correct to say that the gov't didn't have stealth fighters, etc, back then, but if the gov't is willing to use stealth fighters against civilians, the military won't be.

The difference between 3rd and 17th pace is 1.2/1000. Are you really trying to make a case of this? Do you know what your chances of being murdered in all those states is? Your chance of growing to be 18 years old, and not being incarcerated for more than a decade, is far higher in GOP states. That's why leftists are moving to them. Sorry that you failed your way out of Jr High but don't worry, stupidity and lying aren't barriers to success or we wouldn't have Trudeau, Freeland, Biden and Harris running NA.

The SC did overstate their authority in Roe V. Wade, even Justice Ginsberg said exactly as much. Roe V. Wade wasn't based on the constitution or any laws currently on the books, it was a Frankenstein's monster compilation of "We think that if you combine our personal interpretation of this plus that plus that plus that plus part of that, it can only mean one thing." It was an unconstitutional farce. The SC basically created a law by their own interpretation of other laws. That's not allowed. Abortion is too complex of an issue to be decided by a wigged oligarchy. Legislators make laws, not judges. That's what the word legislator actually means. Once the laws are created, the SCJs have to abide by the new laws, unless the laws are actually in violation of the constitution in some way. Then it's back to square 1.

If they actually lied you'd like them more. You'd be able to relate to them better.