WestCanMan

Having 85% of our population vaxed only increased covid deaths by 30% over 2021, and 24% over 2020 - the year when covid was a novel virus. You couldn't possibly vax enough Canadians to cause 'millions more covid deaths' here.

Leftists say that the best scientific studies are done on millions of pregnant women and children at the same time, as long as they all sign waivers.

And you'll get addicted to that one too. "There was an old lady who swallowed a fly..."

Fixed it for ya. Pfizer got one right - I stand corrected. Yup, the ol' bait and switch. "The jabs are safe and effective. Once you're jabbed you don't have to worry about covid, and you don't have to worry about giving it to granny (that last part constituted the "science" behind locking down the unjabbed). As soon as we get enough people jabbed, we will get to herd immunity." Literally every item on the bill of goods we were sold on turned out to be a lie, but the people who were lied to are the only ones who aren't mad lol. They say "I bent over and took one for science, but science was slightly incorrect ['science' lied to you and treated you like its baby momma] but I'm one of the lucky ones who never got harmed so I'm really happy about it." Therefor, if we keep the unjabbed locked away, we can stop covid... "So what if some kids died. I'm ok!" - jabber blabber If there's a civil war to be fought over that one, count me in. Way back in about April or May 2020 that info was rock-solid. Jabbers still don't take it to heart. They were great from their POV. They're evil pieces of crap and they liked seeing people who they didn't agree with being stripped of basic human rights. "But it was on CNN and CTV goddammit! How could it be false? It's true by definition! We'll rewrite the dictionary if we have to in order to make it true." And they literally do do that. Look up "vaccine" or "gain of function research" now. A bathwater solution qualifies as a vaccine now, and giving a pathogen the ability to infect humans and to be transmissible among us is not giving it a function.

If you ever try to get vaers data from an official website they start off with boilerplate BS about how necessary the jabs were and how many people were saved according to their intentional miscalculations, blah blah blah, then they start talking about the incidence rate of injection-site owwies vs all other kinds of incidents and bigger owwies, as if that's what everyone cares about. "Dr, what are the chances that I'll get an injection site boo-boo? Should I just risk death from the plague instead?" Info about the existence or non-existence of dead kids will be on p92, but they refer to them by a much less dead-kid sounding term, like "cardiac fatalities in various age groups which will remain under investigation until 2043, if anyone still cares". A gov't website's covid jab info page is an exercise in wading through horseshit to get to worthless shit on the path to more dishonest shit.

I don't know anyone personally who admits that they're still getting jabbed.

Who whined like a little b1tch, and said "Make young people take the jab, make your kids take the jab, just to keep me safe!" Then who said "Forcing young people to take the jab - even though it injured thousands and even killed a bunch of them - was worth it, because I'm still here"? And we're "whining" about unnecessary injuries to kids? Go to hell. Straight to hell.

If he has seen those links, then why is he still pretending to believe all of the 2020/early 2021 vax-propaganda?

1. Ottoman Empire, Jews as 3rd-class citizens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire Antisemitism[edit] **snipped** In 1865, when the equality of all subjects of the Ottoman Empire was proclaimed, Ahmed Cevdet Pasha, a high-ranking official observed, "whereas in former times, in the Ottoman State, the communities were ranked, with the Muslims first, then the Greeks, then the Armenians, then the Jews, now all of them were put on the same level. Some Greeks objected to this, saying: 'The government has put us together with the Jews. We were content with the supremacy of Islam.'"[42] Benny Morris writes that one symbol of Jewish degradation was the phenomenon of stone-throwing at Jews by Muslim children. Morris quotes a 19th-century traveler: 2.Massacres of Jews in the Ottoman Empire: Keep in mind as you read this, that during the 1948 partition, under 500 muslims were killed. The largest massacre was at Deir Yassin, about 104-108 people, which still stokes violent rage within the muslim community... There was a massacre of Jews in Baghdad in 1828.[41] There was a massacre of Jews in Barfurush in 1867.[41] Throughout the 1860s, the Jews of Libya were subjected to what Gilbert calls punitive taxation. In 1864, around 500 Jews were killed in Marrakech and Fezin Morocco. In 1869, 18 Jews were killed in Tunis, and an Arab mob looted Jewish homes and stores, and burned synagogues, on Jerba Island. In 1875, 20 Jews were killed by a mob in Demnat, Morocco; elsewhere in Morocco, Jews were attacked and killed in the streets in broad daylight. In 1891, the leading Muslims in Jerusalem asked the Ottoman authorities in Constantinople to prohibit the entry of Jews arriving from Russia. In 1897, synagogues were ransacked and Jews were murdered in Tripolitania.[39] An important instance of anti-Semitism around this time was the Damascus affair, in which many Jews in Damascus (which was then under the leadership of Muhammad Ali of Egypt) were arrested after being accused of murdering the Christian Father Thomas and his servant in an instance of blood libel. While the authorities under Sharif Pasha, Egyptian governor of Damascus, tortured the accused until they confessed to the crime, and killed two Jews who refused to confess, prominent European Jews such as Adolphe Crémieux demanded the release of the condemned.[43] 3. Pakistan at Partition: So many people were killed during the Pakistani partition, which only preceded the Palestinian partition by 8 months, that estimates vary anywhere from 400,000 to 2 million. I've even seen 3M as an estimate before, bit it's quite far off from the majority of estimates that I don't give it any credibility anymore. The only reason for this partition was that the muslims in 1947 India - much like the Jews in 1948 'Palestine' - wanted their own sovereign state when the British pulled out. In both instances some massacres occurred. The ones in Israel were infinitesimally smaller, and they happened while the armies of 5 countries were massing to attacking Israel. There were no foreign armies gathering on Pakistan's border to attack them: they were under no such external pressure. Just keep in mind that this is only the estimate for Pakistan's first genocide, and they created a larger genocide in 1971. To get an idea of the epic scale and the desperation of this migration, listen to an ex-soldier who was sent to the new border to oversee the safety of refugees from 1:11:45 to 1:12:45. The whole documentary is worth watching, it's well done imo. 4. Israel attacked on day 1 of their existence: On the eve of the British forces’ May 15, 1948, withdrawal, Israel declared independence. The fighting intensified immediately: Egypt launched an aerial assault on Tel Aviv and, the next day, Arab forces from Egypt, Transjordan (Jordan), Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon occupied the areas in southern and eastern Palestine not apportioned to the Jews by the UN partition of Palestine and then captured East Jerusalem, including the small Jewish quarter of the Old City. The Israelis, meanwhile, won control of the main road to Jerusalem through the Yehuda Mountains (“Hills of Judaea”) and successfully repulsed repeated Arab attacks. By early 1949 the Israelis had managed to occupy all of the Negev up to the former Egypt-Palestine frontier, except for the Gaza Strip. So that's day 1 of Israel's sovereign existence: attacked by the combined armies of 5 countries, all with the goal of ethnically cleansing the country the way that the Pakistanis had ethnically cleansed their new country just a few months earlier. Make no mistake, the goal was to eradicate Israel. 5. In 1967 the ME armies joined up again to attack Israel and wipe it off the map, but Israel launched a surprise pre-emptive strike that destroyed most of the planes in the Egyptian and Syrian air forces while their planes were still on the ground. The war was almost like the Israelis just mopping up what remained. It may have been the quickest and most decisive/lopsided victory in the whole history of warfare. 6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel Since 2001, Palestinian militants have launched tens of thousands[1][2][3][4] of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip as part of the continuing Israeli–Palestinian conflict. I get that the Israelis shoot most of those down, but we're only talking about 23 years here... If Gazans keep this up for another 75 years, how many more rockets can Israel shoot down, buddy? There is no "genocide" of Palestinians. The PLO's stated goal was the eradication of Israel, and that goes back long before you were born. Eradication. IE, no Israel. All Jews dead. When Israel gets attacked by 5 countries at a time it's always done with the goal of genocide/eradication. Believe me, if the Palestinians or Egyptians ever got power over Tel Aviv like the Jews have over Gaza, almost everyone there would die, and quickly. It has taken the Israelis 6 months to move south through Gaza, it's only 25 miles long. If they reached the Egyptian border today, that would put their pace at just over 700 feet/day. Two football fields a day. If the Israelis were trying to kill Palestinians they could have gone 25 miles on day 1. FYI before the Israelis bomb buildings they drop "un-bombs" on them. They just shake the buildings without destroying them so that civilians inside get a chance to flee. So do Hamas. They can flee before actual bombs hit. But make no mistake, the Israelis have to clear out/destroy all those tunnels and eradicate the rocket threat of Hamas in Gaza. Hamas can put rocket fuel and high explosives into a re-purposed water pipe for a few hundred bucks, and that money comes from Iran anyways. The Israelis have to build missiles that can hit each one of those cheap rockets in flight or their kids will just die all the time. The cost difference between building a simple murder rocket and building a self-defence rocket that can shoot the murder rocket down is insane. Israel can't afford to just keep shooting down rockets for 30 more years. The Gazans have to be stopped. The Israelis aren't 'committing' a genocide, they're defending themselves from a genocide. And that's not just me talking. It's what Israel's enemies say. It's what they brag about. It's what they dream about. If you don't believe me, look how they acted on Oct 7th... You don't burn women and children to death, parade their naked corpses so that people can spit on them, if you're fighting a war. The Palestinians aren't at war with Israel. They are trying to wipe them out. FYI when Canadian soldiers go to war, and play nice with POWs and civilians, it's because they have that option. Our soldiers have never had to defend Canadians from a genocide before. If we did, we'd play by a much nastier set of rules.

I don't think all those need to be answered, myself I'll just cherry-pick: 2. In general, the US is wasting a lot of money on foreign wars. I know it's profitable for some, but it's insane and that kind of spending needs to end. 3 & 4. Ukraine will lose, but they already lost more in the war than they will by having a permanent border shift. One long-term effect of this war is a permanent festering wound on Russia's western frontier, and a difficult road back to inclusion in global markets. 5. Yes. If Trump was president when this war started, and the Dems could blame this all on him, they would have told Zelenski to suck it two years ago. 6 & 7: Yes, genocide. 8. I think that the US is going to end up striking Iran or Lebanon at some point, even if Israel has to take the credit/blame.

Spending money on wars is a hot-button issue, as is money for the border, but having a third variable in the poll makes the option list too long so let's just focus on warbucks for a sec... Where does money need to be spent, and how much? where is money on these foreign wars just being wasted? Is the cost of losing in Ukraine too high to bear? What does that look like? Is the US just throwing money into the Ukraine war right now because the Biden administration doesn't like the optics of yet another Russian expansion during a demonrat presidency? Is the cost of losing in Israel too high to bear? If Israel loses, are the Jews facing yet another genocide? Would the US just be better off getting directly involved against Iran? It's not like they haven't been provoked enough after 100s of attacks against US bases...

Autobiography? I keep thinking there must be a rock-bottom, but then you post again... ^^See^^ what I mean? It's like clockwork. There's a little cuckoo bird that pops out and says 'something dumber' with metronome consistency. This war is the direct result of Biden and his push to get Ukraine into into NATO. A person with more geopolitical awareness would inherently understand what "NATO in Ukraine" looks like from Russia's POV without me even mentioning it, but you're still not able to understand after 3 years and 50 explanations. You'll find a way.

Fine. You get "Married to Hillary" then 😂. Sex with Paula Jones for $850K makes way more sense all of a sudden.

Good ol' part-time jobs and public-sector jobs to the rescue. Somehow the Dems just haven't gotten the recipe for 'spending their way to wealth' right just yet.

He did in 1996, two years after the initial lawsuit was filed. Was he stuck in a courtroom in 1996? Did you renovate any more houses and triple their value lately? 😂

If I had to choose between paying $850k for sex with Paula Jones or $350 for sex with Stormy, I'd go with Stormy.

1/2700 would mean that we'd expect to see about 1 heart attack per year in a large HS. Did you ever even hear about a heart attack in a 12-17 yr old in your life before now? I've heard of two heart attacks in my life among college students, both basketball players over 6'5, both just from TV, and obviously both were more than 17 yrs old. Seems like an insane amount to me.

The jabs cost over $100 a pop we jabbed 30M Canadians twice, some 3-6 times, that's 60M sots for the #1 + 2, plus what, 20M more 3rd and 4th shots? Are we at 80M doses? A bit more? A bit less? 80M shots x 100 = about $8 Billion we spent on jabs the 'vaccines' are 'safe': serious adverse affects are almost unheard of, so.... 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = the companies that made those ultra-safe jabs care so much about people, and the adverse effects are so rare, shouldn't they have vast gobs of money to help the small handful of people who were injured? Is the level of care and help that you're getting at the level that you'd call "Almost extravagant"? Surely the people like Trudeau, Biden and Fauci - who advocated so strongly for the safety of the jabs - must feel like the cost to care for the vax-injured would just be a drop in the bucket, right? They must be advocating strongly for advanced care for those people from Big Pharma, right? I know that Canada, for one, has come out and offered to dig the holes we chuck the vax-killed into. So there's that at least. What else?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/14/clinton-settles-sexual-harassment-suit-1998-983371 One guy had consensual sex with a porn star. The other was successfully sued for his inappropriate sexual conduct with an employee, and he has a court-documented history of being guilty of that. Which is worse?

@Gaétan It's worth noting a few facts here: Jews were legally considered 3rd-class citizens all across the Ottoman empire for 600 years. That was basically all of the ME. Jews were killed in riots and genocides across the entire ME on a regular basis during that whole 600 years. At no point did Jews ever commit any genocide against muslims in that whole time. 8 months before Israel came into existence, Pakistan came into existence, driving 8M Sikhs and Hindus from their homes, slaughtering about 800,000 of them. On the day that Israel came into existence, there was an attempt to commit genocide against them by 5 combined armies from muslim countries. There was another full-scale war by several muslim countries in an overt attempt to commit genocide against the Jews in 1967. This is the 4th or 5th Gaza war. They have dropped thousands of bombs on Israeli citizens. Do you understand all of those things Gaetan?

Perfect.

Dr Regina Watteel - the concerned Canadian citizen with the PhD in statistics who says that we were lied to about most things related to covid and the jabs - is what we should be talking about here now. The ad-hominem chatter posted by people like @ExFlyer, @eyeball and @impartialobserver , along with the snippy, immaterial back-and-forth with them, just drives the meaningful posts in this thread back into obscurity and it is making this thread into a sandbox instead of a factual discussion. It's time to admit that these guys will just never acknowledge any wrongdoing and just ignore them. They're like the people who turned a blind eye to gay-bashing, hate crimes and the occasional murder of gays for decades. "Other people are ignoring it, so we should too." Bottom line: healthy people were killed by the jab, decent Canadians were fired or discriminated against for no good reason, and some folks are always going to be 100% ok with all of the lies that led to that. Let's just agree to disagree with them and move on ignoring them.

Nope. You're saying "what everyone else is doing" and saying that we should do it too. You're saying that we should be sheeple, like you.

Your point is that the majority of people are doing the wrong things again. Your point is that we should go along with the people who are doing the wrong things again. Your point is that we should join the sheeple. Fill your boots. Keep lying. Keep slithering. Keep dodging. I have a brain, a conscience, and a spine. I can't do what you guys do without becoming something I detest.

If you think about how much our daily life revolves around computers/the internet now, it becomes crystal clear how much influence AI can have on our society. Just imagine how many people would be out of work tomorrow if the internet ceased to exist... All of the computers linked to the internet and all of the login codes that we have are susceptible to hacking. We get all of our news and info through web searches now. AI can basically own us soon if we're not careful. We're becoming cyborgs - reliant on technology for life - and they could soon control our tech-minds.