dialamah
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1. It is only an example of what happens. We do make drinking and driving a crime, because it has the potential if hurting others. We also made seatbelt wearing a legal requirement because it saved lives and reduced strain on our health care system. 2. Other than vaccinations, the same restrictions were applied, and the same conversations were had about personal freedoms during the flu pandemic from 1918. Lo and behold, when the pandemic ended, so did all restrictions and people failed to live in fear "for decades". 3. Look around: plenty of other societies have followed the same path Canada is following.
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You're thinking of the States, I believe.
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There's a lot more to the story. For starters, consultation with First Nations has to happen; at least one First Nation says it will not agree to the deferral for at least two years, as they want to do their own assessments. Also, consultation can take some time - so this is not immediate, and perhaps not even a certainty, given potential road blocks. While the BC Council of Forest Industries is claiming 18,000 jobs loss, the Government estimates around 4,500 jobs, if the deferrals were made permanent. Likely the truth would be somewhere in between those two numbers. The ultimate goal is to transform the forest industry into a more sustainable model, so that harvesting trees does not result in huge swaths of clear-cut areas, but more resembles natural events. This can preserve ecosystems and help mitigate the effect of climate change. I realize you don't care about climate change, but many people do. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-british-columbia-proposes-unprecedented-deferrals-of-old-growth/ -
My friend's mom died from Covid; caught it from a "freedom-loving" family member who didn't think they needed to get vaccinated. No hugging mom any more. I suspect the "freedom loving" relative will be running short of hugs, too.
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Then why did authorities lift the restrictions that they had implemented back when the pandemic started? In March of 2020, everything but grocery stores, liquor stores and gas stations were shut down; schools were closed (in BC). The roads were empty of vehicles, so much so that there was a noticeable decrease in greenhouse gasses around the world. After about three months, kids were heading back to school and businesses were opening again, albeit with restrictions. At this point, kids are in school, businesses are open, the traffic is back, stores are full of people, restaurants are serving eat-in customers, events can have full capacity audiences. The only restrictions I'm aware of are mask-wearing (but not in Churches) and on the unvaccinated for *some* places. If it was about "control", we'd still be where we were in March of 2020. I hope you feel stupid when the pandemic becomes endemic, and there are no restrictions - not even on the unvaccinated.
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You wouldn't believe it unless you saw it written in the bible, so don't bother reading the other links. Its just a waste of your time.
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There's lots of evidence, you just don't believe it. Here, and here, and here, and here ... and on and on and on. It was first noted in the 1800s that certain gases would create a warmer atmosphere, and that over time, would increase earth's temperature. Every thing has come to pass as theorized, way back then, read all about it here. But you don't believe it, God will take care of everything, you don't have to worry. Lack of action on climate change estimated to have cost 0.6 Trillion the US already.
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Find credible sources, not Twitter posts or fringe websites or years old clippings and maybe you'd have some credibility. But otherwise you are just hysterically spreading misinformation.
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1. And people have NOT been confined to their homes continuously for that length of time. My colleague's kids had online learning for about 3 months, then they were back at school. Daycare didn't even shut down. And if other jurisdictions did it differently, it still hasn't been for years, just a few months. 2. You are the one screaming about "20 IQ points lost in children" due to a situation that never happened, about camps and Nazis and Jews, posting random claims from Twitter, and from sources with little or no expertise and people wife been proven outright liars. That's hysteria. 3. You are being left alone - but you don't like it and are weeping copious tears and organizing protests because you think it's unfair to be required to take an action that benefits everybody.
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I think those things are stupid too, as a matter of fact. I also think that making very young children wear masks is also pointless. But disagreeing with some of the things health authorities think is a good idea doesn't mean I have to accept every crackpot idea that is put out there to 'prove' that vaccines are dangerous or that the disease isn't really all that serious because "mostly old people die". Old people matter too; they have people who love them, rely on them, who want them to live. Just because you don't have anyone like that in your life, doesn't give you the right to dismiss them as unimportant. The pandemic is real; people have died despite efforts to slow it's spread. Left to spread on it's own with no attempt at mitigation, a lot more people would have died. That's not "hysteria", that's fact. Vaccines reduce the spread even more, make a lot more people able to resist the disease, and fewer people die; that's also fact. In contrast, your hysteria is based on nothing more than disinformation. That's true hysteria and would result in a lot more deaths, if it was the attitude of those in charge. That's what Kenney found out earlier this year when he lifted all restrictions.
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You seem to think you know more than most of the world's scientists, medical researchers, doctors and nurses. Anyway, simple common sense would tell anyone that a baby isolated with their parents is not going to develop an IQ deficit in a few weeks or even months. It's ludicrous to even think so. Children don't develop cognitive issues unless they are isolated from almost any human contact; such children also tend to starved, left in their own waste and suffer a lot of physical abuse when they do get contact with parents. You posted an anecdote about some mom whose child had sniffles, but didn't get her checked for Covid because "this hysteria has to stop" and how you couldn't agree more. Perhaps you could follow that advice too, and stop the hysteria about lockdowns, restrictions and vaccines.
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That's bullshit, plain and simple. It's not like the kids haven't seen anyone, and most kids hang out with their parents 99% of the time till at least the age of two, anyway. Even if these kids never saw anyone but their parents for a few weeks or months, that's plenty enough "socialization" for a baby. Only if a child was kept completely isolated - as in kept in a closet, or kept in a crib in the bedroom for years would their IQ be affected. The doctor, if they are a doctor, is a quack, and you're a fool for believing them.
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There is precedent for these kinds of mandates, and in the States the right of authorities to implement public health measures has been upheld. But these are different times, so we'll see. Thanks for the detailed reply.
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Do you think they'll win?
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Why would courts infringe on the rights of businesses to determine who'll they'll do business with? A business is not obligated to do business with everyone, after all. Someone may try a lawsuit, but I seriously doubt they'd win
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Where's @bcsapper?
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Rue left in a huff because people were saying bad things about China.
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Rue was suspended, shortly after a discussion about moderation with the moderators. Maybe he also left in a huff, I dunno.
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He became infuriated over the China topic, accused me of spreading hate about Chinese even though I was very careful to talk about the Chinese government and present all kinds of articles which were clearly about them and their actions both abroad and here in Canada. I suspect the argument over moderation was caused by that for he disappeared about then.
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Right, Randy Hillier, LMAO. He's the one that has had his "vaccine-death" claims slammed by relatives of the dead people as lies. Class act you're admiring there, Goddess. Still looking up that cite?
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At least one of them is a liar (assuming he's a doctor and not just playing one on Twitter) and you spread his lie. I believe there are adverse reactions to the vaccine, some of them serious and some of them not so much. I think the deaths you claim are highly exaggerated. Just as you think the deaths from Covid are highly exaggerated. I guess we're at a stalemate here. Indeed. But the link you posted wasn't from the website; it was taken from a print copy of some kind. If it were off the LHSC it would be of much higher quality. If you have a link from the website advising that they are reinstating the pediatric stroke code, please post it. I didn't find such a thing, but if you did and post it, then your new argument would be stronger.
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Except you said that this was "new" because "Covid vaccinations". Remember?
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And you'd be wrong. Again. From July 2015, Pediatric acute stroke teams are a new phenomenon. We sought to characterize the final diagnoses of children with brain attacks in the emergency department where the pediatric acute stroke protocol was activated and to describe the time to neurological evaluation and neuroimaging. From 2017 We initiated an ASP in 2005. We compared 209 children (125 males, 84 females; median age 4.8y, interquartile range [IQR] 1.2-9.3y, range 0.09-17.7y) diagnosed with arterial ischemic stroke 'pre-protocol' (1992-2004) to 112 children (60 males, 52 females; median age 5.8y, IQR 1.0-11.4y, range 0.08-17.7y) diagnosed 'post-protocol' (2005-2012) for time-to-diagnosis, mode of diagnostic imaging, and time-to-treatment with antithrombotic medication (aspirin or anticoagulants).
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This is clearly a copy of something that was put out quite some time ago - not a recent update of already known information. Also, given the quality of the information provided on the website for LHSC, I very much doubt they'd put such a crappy looking "reminder" out. Your theory might make some sense if the article below included something along the lines of "remember to wash your hands", and not "Hand Washing Compliance Reports Now online" as if it were some new thing. You didn't even take the time to figure out what hospital this was; you just saw it and jumped all over it - a pure "gotcha" moment in your mind for all the horrible people who think vaccines are safe and effective. But you go ahead and believe some BS you found on Twitter. It's ok. I know you don't understand how critical thinking works at all.
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Further to this, LHSC is the London Health Sciences Centre; the headline below Goddess's picture says "LHSC Hand Compliance Reports Now Online" - which they are, the first one being from 2017 to 2018, found here. LHSC started tracking hand hygiene compliance around 2009, though I can't find when they decided to go online with the info. However, based on related articles on hand hygiene I found in my search, it was likely around 2017 - which, interestingly enough, is the first year LHSC put their info online as part of their 'accountability'. Since the two articles are clearly on the same page, it looks like this 'pediatric stroke code' announcement is a few years old. Lesson: Don't post random stuff from random people off Twitter without confirming it first.
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The quality of the release looks hella old, although maybe just a bad copier. But I notice it has no year, no location and doesn't mention anything about vaccinations. And who is ERDocAA - he/she seems pretty militant about vaccines, mandates and restrictions. Not entirely sure I'd trust that off a Twitter feed.
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Probably did it one too many times.
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Rue was suspended quite some time ago.
