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You're talking about Community Policing, preventative work. It would be sad if that's taking a hit. We should legalize all drugs, take the profits away from organized violent crime, --> reduce crime and policing needs.

Hate. On both sides, terrorism is about propagating hatred against particular peoples. It's not the goal, it's just the tool to divide and conquer peoples. Keep us hating and living in fear of the 'other'. While they make out like bandits sucking out resources and wealth. Terrorism is propagating hatred, inciting - and arming - violence. Usually for greedy purpose. Follow the money. Ka-ching!

Civics 101 ... Canada's government consists of 3 branches: Legislative - HoC & Senate (make the laws) Executive - Privy Council (tell the PM what to do) Judicial - Courts The courts are part of "government". They interpret and apply the law.

And that's a very good thing. If you think Guantanamo is "right", you aren't Canadian. You aren't even American, because they don't have the balls to have it in their own country either. Anybody who thinks violating people's rights and subjecting them to torture is "right" is a f'kng animal, a terrorist imo. They are so pumped up on lies and hate propaganda they aren't even human anymore ... just like violent terrorists.

The man you're referring to was right there with Omar until he was shot and killed. Only Omar survived. Army Guy, in NO world do we demand that children defy their parents. Nowhere. No way. It's disgusting that grown men on here demand that a kid do that. He did what his father told him, what he had to do to survive. Add: The Khadr's first trip to Afghanistan was during the Soviet invasion. Khadr senior became radicalized at that time, like many others, funded, armed and supplied by the USA.

In your quote above, did you notice the word "sent"? His father "sent" him? Think about that. When he was captured, he was in the care of the man who died near him, who likely threw the grenade, an AlQuaeda friend of his father's. He did what he was told by his father. We do not and cannot ever demand that children 'escape' their parents. He was always under supervision. His father threatened his older brother to do as he was told or he'd die a suicide bomber. Omar did what he was told, to survive.

Do you think those children come up with the idea of amputating their fingers alone, or do you think their parents came up with that idea and did that for them? You have no legal grounds for demanding that a kid 'escape' from their parents. That's ridiculous. Omar wasn't a crazed jihadist seeking death. He was trying hard to live. Your verbal gymnastics are impressive only because they are completely nonsensical, outlandish and entirely irrelevant.

Canadians do protest by breaking laws in order to change laws. But you are wandering into derailing territory now. This thread isn't about the Wheat Board.

That's quite the non sequiter. And irrelevant since he was a child under the control of adults who threatened him with death if he didn't do what he was told.

If there are no consequences for our governments violating the rights of ANY citizen, then none of us have any enforcable rights. They don't get to pick and choose which Canadians' rights will be respected.

What's this about? No idea.

Again, we do not punish children for the crimes of the father or other family members. Do you not get that yet?

Umm ... pretty sure Omni meant various Canadian governments - Chretien, Martin, Harper.

The courts, specifically the Supreme Court, ruled that Khadr's Charter rights were violated. Most Canadians agree with that, are not "aghast" at that. $10m, the negotiated settlement, sounds like a lot of money, but he was reimbursed enough to cover his lawyer's bills, possibly also for his appeal. He hopes to just live a normal life but he's having difficulty getting a job, and hopes someday to be able to be out in public without being noticed. He lost 10 years of his life because Canadian governments refused to do their job of protecting the rights of a Canadian citizen and a minor at that. The law is there to serve ALL citizens. Canadians will get over it ... except partisan Conservatives who will pathetically and disingenuously continue to milk it for political gain.

Funny you didn't mention Harper. He'd have to testify about his part too. And then there's this: https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/07/tories-offer-omar-khadr-10-5-million-stay-news-next-election/ Hahahaha! And this: https://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/7468398-the-spectator-s-view-khadr-fight-should-be-fought-at-home/ It's called putting partisan party interests — hurting Justin Trudeau — ahead of national interests. That is neither appropriate or wise. Let's give the final words to Michael Spratt, who wrote in Canadian Lawyer magazine: 'The simple fact is that the Khadr critics' ideology is irreconcilable with the law and the facts. The repetition of ill-informed and disingenuous talking points by the Conservative pundits and members of Parliament is nothing but a dishonest attempt at political gain that will only serve to undermine respect for human rights and the rule of law — and no settlement can compensate Canada for that crime.' Well said.

The Supreme Court ruled that Khadr's Charter rights were violated by our governments. In response to Khadr's lawsuit for damages, the government settled out of court. Nothing out of line there.

I see. So the laws are irrelevant to you, because you think your judgement is better. Mhm. OK. cannuck law. Doesn't leave much to say.

Court precedent is application of the law, and it becomes law. Residential school settlements were court ordered due to a successful class action lawsuit. Action can be taken against government complicity. If it wasn't for Mt Cashel victims, that's too bad.

You think the Conservatives are going to try to drag their racist nonsense all the way through the next election? https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/07/tories-offer-omar-khadr-10-5-million-stay-news-next-election/ Hahahaha! Surely to goodness even Conservative Canadians will see through that gutter dog whistle politics by then! Don't you get tired of jumping and barking every time they blow the race whistle at you?

Harper/Conservatives never liked the Charter. It was P Trudeau's Liberal idea. Lol

Oh. Another know-not who thinks Omar Khadr should be tried for the crimes of "his family" . Do you know nothing about the laws of Canada? By the way, Harper would have had to testify and squirm too.

It appears that making IED's was a task given to the children. Do you think the children of terrorists had a choice about that? Omar's father threatened his older brother with being made a suicide bomber when he dissented. You should stick to trying to figure out your own beliefs, not guessing at mine. If you're trying to make a sensible argument for Khadr being tried as an adult, you're not succeeding. Your opinion, or mine, matters little to any such deliberations, if there were any. However, maybe that question will have to be addressed during his US appeal.

Yes the law does say that governments are liable. What's the point of a Charter of Rights if we can't enforce it? Yes there were settlements paid to residential school victims too, whether enough remains debatable. The Catholics? The government isn't complicit in that.

Still flogging that dead horse? Canada never bothered to bring him home to try him here, so that bird has flown. We'll see what happens in his US appeal of his conviction. Maybe they'll address that issue.

https://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7468317-former-mississauga-mayoral-candidate-charged-with-hate-motivated-crime/ Controversial Mississauga resident Kevin J. Johnston has been charged with wilfully promoting hatred toward the Peel Muslim community, Peel Regional Police said Monday, July 24. The charge relates to information published on “various social media sites” over the past five months, but police would not be more specific on the content of the postings. Police said “numerous incidents” were reported to them, sparking the “lengthy” investigation. Johnston's hatred has notably been directed at students' prayers during school hours, accusing them of "spewing hatred", tearing up a Qur'an at a school board meeting, etc. The charge of "willful promotion of hatred" may require repeated incidents, a campaign. The fact that the Attorney General signed off makes the charges pretty solid. It is very clear that he discriminates against one religion: He's not attacking Catholic school prayers.