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For Army Guy: http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/opinion/veterans-khadr-settlement-1.4206063 I understand that veterans are currently stuck with what I and many other Canadians thought was a very stingy benefits package from the Harper administration. While this is a separate topic from the Khadr settlement, it's easy to see why veterans and many others make a connection. https://www.google.ca/amp/globalnews.ca/news/3318246/federal-budget-to-bring-back-lifetime-pension-option-for-canadian-veterans/amp/ I think this is a good time to contribute and to lobby government for improvements: https://woundedwarriors.ca/how-we-help/#donate https://www.change.org/p/justin-trudeau-treat-disabled-veterans-with-respect-on-cost-of-living-allowance-cola?recruiter=234638316&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

I suggest we wait for the appeal to see what the evidence says he did do. However, that won't change what the govs did.

That's an interesting point. But then Harper would have had to testify too. Would have been quite the sh!t show.

How's your horse & buggy? Still got it too?

If the government hadn't violated his rights, there wouldn't be a settlement necessary. Harper might have fought it, just for political reasons, and it would have cost us a lot more.

I think we will all be surprised at how quickly this happens.

There was no evidence presented for judgement. There was only a plea deal.

That's a sentencing hearing following his plea.

And they can enjoy it as long as it lasts and the gas pumps and maintenance are available. Some people kept enjoying their horses and buggies for a while too. A few still do. What the article is suggesting is that in 8 years, there won't be any new fossil fuel vehicles produced, because the technology is improving very quickly now and that's where the demand is.

I read it. There was no evidence presented to the jury.

What trial manuscripts? What trial? "the black hole of moral deficiency" I think you're referring to the idea that every person is entitled to due process and a fair trial. So who's morally deficient, those who agree or those who disagree?

Do you understand 'critical mass'? We are there. Fossil fuels just aren't popular anymore, out of favour. People are seeking out alternatives for transportation and for investment. It is happening very quickly now, and the alternative technology is developing very quickly too. People once thought fossil fuel vehicles were a far fetched theory too, and would never replace horses. People once thought airplanes were a far fetched theory too. Need I go on?

Opening statements, delay, plea deal. There was no evidence presented to the jury. Stop lying.

He took a plea deal. There was no evidence presented. Khadr is now appealing that, based on US violations of his rights, I believe. It may be that the US will finally be required to present evidence during that appeal.

There was a lawsuit in progress. The court suggested that the parties come to a settlement, which they did. That agreed upon settlement will be part of the court's judgement. As has been explained repeatedly ... If the gov had continued to fight it to let the court decide, it would have cost much more. But hey, beat your head against the wall and wallow in your hate. You're only poisoning yourself.

You don't have to admire someone to acknowledge that they have rights.

Khadr's lawsuit against the government requested compensation. Based on that SCoC finding of fault against the government, compensation was inevitable.

Because some people get off on being jacked up on hate. Facts mean nothing.

Unh ... No. Good grief, you really have no clue at all about the facts. Do you ever read anything, or do you just spout off in complete ignorance?

No he did not have a trial. He took a plea deal. There was no evidence presented.

Show me the evidence. You can't because he never had a trial. It's all hearsay.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on the mistakes made by governments. Nobody's hiding anything. Maybe you're not looking. There are plenty or articles you could read about it. If you haven't bothered to do that by now, another long court case isn't going to help you understand. If you listened or read anything you would know the government could have fought it more in court but they were pretty sure they were going to lose, because of the existing Supreme Court rulings. So all that would have done is pushed the costs and the settlement higher - $30- $40m instead of $10m.

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Sometimes can lead to trial as adult, if intentionality is clear ... but not always, can't be assumed A kid forced into a war is not likely a candidate for that. And so far there has never been any evidence produced that Omar Khadr is responsible for any specific death. We'll see what happens at his appeal trial. I assume if there is any evidence, the US prosecution will bring it out then. The US soldiers have presented more than one scenario to date, seeming to contradict themselves and obfuscate the facts, which doesn't bode well for their credibility. It will be the first time Khadr has an opportunity for due process and a fair trial ... maybe.

Canadians do lose some rights when they are legitimately convicted of crimes and incarcerated. Medical care is not one of them. We're not animals. And violations of charter rights must be financially compensated. Lessons to learn: Our governments must avoid violating people's Charter rights, to avoid having to compensate them. You pick a bad case to make these points - a child taken out of the country into a war, incarcerated with harsh treatment with Canada complicit, and a 'confession' extorted without evidence of a crime. You might have been able to make that case about his father back when, but it's too late for that now. And of course you can't punish the son for the crimes of the father, though it appears that some people here would like to.