Je suis Omar

George, your first offering that remotely approached the science was a flat out fiction that you knew to be a fiction. It's been nothing but downhill ever since for you. That includes your admission that you love war criminals and terrorists.

As I said, shamelessly. You really are beginning to make me feel that you don't possess the honesty necessary for, say, well pretty much anything.

No need to check this one either, Tim, OGFT. You could at least try offering another of your fictions, George.

That's one of the best "Oh look, a squirrel " memes I've ever come across, OGFT. Are you trying to leave me with the impression that you don't possess the necessary honesty to fulfill my request?

OGFT & TimG:Here's one post that you don't have to bother checking for science. Watch out for flying memes though.

TimG: even if it was molten metal Whether it was molten metal is not at issue. You can't even bring yourself to say "molten steel/molten iron",Tim. How come? All the science to date shows that it was indeed molten steel or molten iron. In the video you didn't watch and from the information you didn't read in my post and at the link, it's easy to see and understand that the color wasn't that of molten aluminum. There was nothing in those towers that could create the temperatures necessary to melt steel. Basic common sense, which appears to be in short supply here, demands that scientists try to explain this. Repeating tired old memes is futile. But the meme gang would love to see that happen. That moves everyone away from the science. I posed a question to OGFT about finding one person from the opposing camp who has discussed the science. Are you up for it? Based on your past performance I'm going to say no, but that's just my opinion. Show us that you are made of sterner stuff!!

OGFT: "whenever the conspiracy folks try to flog another theory that gets debunked," It's hilarious to think that you think that's what you've done. Point to one person who came onto this thread to "debunk" the information you offered from your badly outdated source. Y'all just refused to go anywhere near the science as you ran yourself up on a stump. Kimmy, Argus, Michael, ... rolled in to do the same thing you're attempting here, obfuscation. OGFT: "they simply move along to the next, etc., etc" Telling that you think that unscientific. Where would we be if all scientists threw up their hands and said, "Okay, game over! Einstein has covered it all!"? OGFT: As already discussed, That's all y'all discuss are these silly memes. Are you honest enough to go back and bring forward, from any one of you government conspiracy folks' replies, since it was established that the molten metal pouring from WTC2 was not aluminum, something that shows y'all discussed anything regarding the science?

It's apparent I am wasting my time. Folks like you will only go as far as your minds let you go, then they freeze up and your offerings become the disjointed ramblings like this, above. The same tired old memes, issued in the same semi-catatonic fashion. Which leads back to the central issue of this thread - Why are so few willing to discuss the science? Hell you're not even willing to discuss the things raised on your own sources.

It's outdated because scientists have done experiments that illustrate that what that site, NIST, you, ... have advanced is false. Organics do not mix with molten aluminum to create a "like a fireplace log" situation. "The fundamental flaw of the aluminum hypothesis, though, is that the implied temperature of the white glow remains above 1200°C/2200°F, regardless of the metal involved. An independent researcher suggested that the molten substance could be lead from storage batteries, but this explanation fails as do all hypotheses based on alternative metals because the temperature required for the yellow-white glow of the metal is beyond the capability of the building fire. Jones also notes that molten aluminum appears silvery as it melts at 660°C/1220°F, and that it remains silvery when poured in daylight conditions, regardless of the temperature. It is theoretically possible to continue heating liquid aluminum way past its melting point and into the yellow-white temperature range, but the office fire was not a plausible source for such high temperatures, ... ." http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/affiliate-marketing-program/899-what-was-the-molten-metal-seen-pouring-out-of-the-south-tower-minutes-before-its-collapse-steel-and-iron-or-aluminum-andor-lead.html

Is this the "support" thread ?!?!

Realistically, it's all one can do. When you're in business with the all powerful Nazis, what can you do? Even PET didn't come right out and describe the US invasion of Vietnam for what it was, one massive war crime punctuated by an infinite number of smaller one.

Boges: And before the Harper haters get started, she was elected to the PCs and joined the CPC caucus BUT! she was appointed by Paul Martin. --------------- There's a difference?!

Wallin said she met in Toronto on April 18, 2009, with Canada's consul general to New York. But the RCMP documents allege the consul general, Dan Sullivan, said he was in New York that day and, furthermore, any formal meetings with her occurred before she was appointed to the Senate; "the other times were at birthday parties." -------------------- Wasn't Ms Wallin once a trusted journalist? Who worked for big media? The ones who frame the narrative?

I'll defer until whoever is the evader answers my question.

I'm not doing either of those things. I asked one simple pointed question of one particular individual. I made none of the pronouncements you attribute to me. It was one very pointed question and it could have seen some further discussion ensue, had the question been answered, which it wasn't. Might you consider asking that person, was it Rue???, about evasion, side stepping and the like?

Sharkman: the left's hatred of nuclear power be damned. According to which extensive Sharkman survey?

I wonder, were any of those helicopter pilots and passengers called to testify anywhere; were they questioned, were they identified?

Rue: He and his two wise men, Erdogan and Morsi proved to be hateful, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-democratic fascists. Compare them to your average run of the mill USA dictator and what? Let's try to remember now, the USA is supposed to be the saviour of the oppressed, the folks who are in the business of advancing democracy.

Rue: The actual flag of Israel was the Zionist flag. Zionists for the most part were agnostic or atheistic and did not practice Judaism. You forgot to mention that they were/are also terrorists and war criminals. No biggee that, lots of folks do it. Rue: Thy defined their Jewishness as a national concept. No chance for overwhelming racism to occur because of that.

Do try to focus.

A plethora of non sequiturs. I didn't say Iran SHOULD have nukes. I was questioning why Israel should be able to possess them but Iran can't. When you talked of Iraq, did you use 'should' in a deontic/social sense, "it would have been a good thing" or in an epistemic/level of certainty sense, as "it was likely that ..."?

The phoney narrative of the USA and its lapdogs is fast falling to pieces. Running out of bogeymen, the USA created its own, using them as they have long used allied, US trained terrorists to murder innocents. For the USA this is even better. --------------------------- The West Recruits Terrorists: 25,000 ISIS Fighters from Foreign Countries since Mid-2014. UN Report By Joachim Hagopian Global Research, April 04, 2015 Region: Middle East & North Africa Theme: United Nations, US NATO War Agenda In-depth Report: IRAQ REPORT, SYRIA: NATO'S NEXT WAR? According to a just released UN report that monitors al Qaeda and ISIS terrorist groups, from the time ISIS splashed onto the headlines last June in its infamous trek southward from Syria into Iraq to take over the second largest city Mosul without encountering any opposition, a whopping 20,000 foreign recruits from over 100 countries thats most nations on earth have since converged on Iraq and Syria alone to join up as terrorists ostensibly fighting to rid the Middle East of the so called Western infidels. Another 5000 new recruits from foreign countries are additionally fighting in other war zones like Libya and now Yemen. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-west-recruits-terrorists-25000-isis-fighters-from-foreign-countries-since-mid-2014-un-report/5440512

http://www.ae911truth.org/images/articles/2014/11/twenty-five-points-10-19-14-3.pdf Areas of Specific Concern in the NIST WTC Reports Below is a series of twenty-five provable points which clearly demonstrate that the reports produced by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on the destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) were unscientific and fraudulent. Therefore NIST itself including its lead authors, Shyam Sunder and John Gross - should be investigated. WTC 7 THE THIRD SKYSCRAPER 1. OMISSION OF GIRDER STIFFENERS SHOWN ON FRANKEL DRAWING #9114 Technical Statement: NIST maintains that WTC 7 collapsed due to fire acting upon the 13th floor A2001 girder between columns 79 and 44 and the beams framing into it from the east. They said that the beams expanded by 5.5 (revised in June 2012 to 6.25), broke the girder erection bolts, and pushed this girder off its column 79 seat. This girder fell to floor 12, which then precipitated a cascade of floor failures from floor 12 down to floor 5, and column 79 then became unsupported laterally causing it to buckle. It is then said that column 79's buckling caused the upper floors to cascade down, which started a chain reaction a north-to-south then east-to-west horizontal, progressive collapse with a global exterior collapse that was captured on the videos. The first omission concerns flange-to-web stiffeners on the south end of the girder (A2001). See drawing 9114. These omitted stiffeners would prevent the girder flange from folding when the girder web moved beyond the seat, requiring twice the possible expansion of the beams framing into the girder from the east to move the girder far enough to the west for it to fall off its seat.

Are you starting to build your own, Kimmy?

Speaking of illogic, you've created a scenario that wasn't presented. Not because the USA has them - if Israel has them why shouldn't Iran have them. I didn't specifically exclude any other country either. That's a non sequitur.