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I can accept you making the argument that their accusations being false is naive, but there is nothing misogynistic about it. You people have to stop screaming misogynist every time someone possessing a vagina gets called out for her behaviour. BTW - Most people here, maybe all of us agree that Ghomeshi is a douche who likely did what he was accused of, the question is one of degree and consent. Also, what can and was proven in a court of law.
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Political morality and the Left/Right Divide
Hal 9000 replied to Argus's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
So, we know as fact that Hillary and the entire left wing media have clearly stated that Trumps rhetoric about muslims makes the US more dangerous and less safe - in their own words. Yet, immigration has been a political topic with the mexicans for as long as I can remember - likely longer. What makes stopping immigration from muslims be more dangerous than stopping immigration of mexicans? Why has this fear of not allowing immigrants only come to light in 2015? Either the democrats are lying about the dangers of Trump's ideas and trying to use that fear to sway votes or they're right and know that saying "no" to muslims is dangerous for westerners. -
Her statement obviously added nothing, would likely be more damage to the Crown to see the same old same old from these women. If there was anything to her statement, she woulda testified and been crossed. It can be recorded that she had her say - that's all this is about. I think everyone just wants this case to end.
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This isn't a rape case. Please start a new thread if you want to discuss rape, this isn't the place for it.
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Political morality and the Left/Right Divide
Hal 9000 replied to Argus's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
I was asking if you believe the democrat's tactic that Trump makes the US less safe because of his words...or potential policies? -
Wait a second! Did somebody get raped?
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Something else we agree on.
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No txt.
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No, you won't answer...and here's why; If you say that "yes, you would convict", then you lose all credibility and become just an angry radical feminist who will lock a man up with no evidence to support the accusations. If you say "no, you would not convict", you would be admitting that these women are not victims, but instead liars. And, if they have lied, then maybe not every woman who claims victim, is in fact a victim. You have to believe that each and every woman is a victim. Neither scenario is gonna work for you - is it?
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Political morality and the Left/Right Divide
Hal 9000 replied to Argus's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
C'mon, you don't really believe that...do you? -
Have you read the play-by-play tweets? I can send them to you, then you can answer.
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That's not the question. The question was "Would you convict Ghomeshi based on the evidence given?"
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Would you convict Ghomeshi based on the evidence given?
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It's more than a hand job, it's everything they did and every lie they told and every conversation they hid - there hasn't been once ounce of honesty from any of these women and you want to convict the guy. Weren't you talking about "the making of a murderer" recently?
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What they are doing is losing credibility for real victims. At this point there is more evidence that he's the victims than they are, If one was to read the transcripts, they'd think it was a case of Ghomeshi filing restraining orders for stalking. I told you Lucy Decoutere was a nutcase the minute she entered the scene and now i'm even more convinced. And, where is the testimony from CBC employees telling us how creepy and abusive Ghomeshi is?
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To be honest WCR, even the the most staunch feminist should turn their back on this case and these women, they are doing more harm than good. I'm surprised you're trying to defend them.
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These women all seemed to "forget" stalking him, sending him sexy photos, suggestive emails, flowers, phone calls, invites, and actual sex after the alleged assault. The third 'victim" could say nothing more than "he had a hand on my neck while they were kissing and...He said my friend was controlling". They've clearly worked on their stories, they've clearly been coached...although it must seem like herding cats from the Crown's perspective. This case gets worse and worse by the day...by the complainant. The last witness better toss a couple Hail Marys, because that's the only thing that'll help the Crown
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Yes, they are embarrassing themselves...and they're the reason why women don't come forward as often as they should, and they're the reason why offenders get off. They are disgraceful to actual assault victims. Your second point - I agree fully.
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Based on what exactly?
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Not only have they all 3 women been caught lying and hiding information, it really is starting to look like collusion.
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Political morality and the Left/Right Divide
Hal 9000 replied to Argus's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
I understand both of those points - very well, in fact. They are both opinions and irrelevant to the point i'm making - which you incidentally just proved and that is; The left engage in fear tactics as much, maybe more than people on the right. -
Political morality and the Left/Right Divide
Hal 9000 replied to Argus's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
I recognize this as (same as eyeball) one of those posts that i should ignore, but I'll take the high road and give a realistic answer. So, when Hillary (or the left leaning media) say's that Trump is gonna make people angry with his stance on muslims and when she says that Trump is being used as a recruiter for ISIL, the seed she is planting is that voting Trump will bring US more terror attacks. So, fear tactics. It may have been subliminal to someone like you, but the implication is purely fear based. Same as Harper, "STOP HARPER"...stop him from what, we never did find out. Doesn't matter, the tone was to generate pure hysteria and it worked. BTW - Trump hasn't said anything different than about 10 other western world leaders, his words are simply less polished than the others. -
You don't really believe that with your "voluntary orientation", that you're even remotely qualified to the deal with the emotional issues that they will encounter, do you? Here in Canada, you need years of full time schooling to even begin to council english speaking people. No, if you are involved with refugees, it'll be shopping, doing laundry, using a bank card etc. Any emotional or medical issues will be funded and provided by places such as social services, comunitas, CLBC etc. P.S - please refrain from calling East Indians - ragheads!
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Political morality and the Left/Right Divide
Hal 9000 replied to Argus's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
Link This is another template. I definitely fall into what this chart shows as libertarian, however on ththe MLW site to suggest anything even remotely right or against the left gets you pushed to the right....far right. -
But these alleged assaults were reported, and so far the two women have been caught lying big time - so, i'm not sure of your point. Unless it's just a broad statement suggesting that despite any facts brought to light - women are simply victims of men....end of.
