Derek 2.0

Where's the mens rea.......I mean, what would team Clinton have to gain by making it appear that she is in medical distress?

I'd think the opposite.....at a public event her team would be concerned with optics, it looks like the agent standing with her is steadying her up, which would look better then her hunched over or siting down.........I don't know why you would think this would be staged?

Or the Walking Dead......and somehow Sanders age was a concern.

Mid to high twenties at the NYJ game right now....I'd assume it would have been cooler during the ceremony in the morning...

And of course they say she felt "overheated"...they wouldn't say it was something to do with previous clots etc.......I'm sure she has a Doctor present (likewise Trump) 24/7, and looked like she was loaded into the USSS ambulance....

Here's a link to a video of Clinton being handled into her car.......that doesn't look good.

Just when you thought things couldn't get worse for her, Clinton steps in it again, in doing so, alienating 10s of millions of Americans: Even Clinton and her team know they just had their own Romney-47% moment (or "Beer & Popcorn" up here).......these latest comments, compounded by similar comments several weeks ago, will alienate millions of voters and demonstrate the contempt and elitist facade many people felt Hillary already hides behind.......these aren't just "Trump supporters", but "Bernie supporters" and the classic "Reagan Blue Dog Democrats"...... I expect those now tightening rust belt swing states will move to Trump.......

I'm surprised 49ers fans didn't boycott the team........last year. Kaepernick is a bum and shouldn't be playing in the league.....forget about his protest......And I don't blame police one bit, their own protest.......the difference, they are out their overtime, Kapernick isn't out of anything (until his contract is up).

I voted number two.......clearly so called "image trolling" is subjective, as such, should be dealt with like any other forms of "trolling". With that, if one considers honest discourse as an exchange of information and ideas, enabling pics/videos/graphs/maps etc is but an extension of that exchange....text books and manuals etc contain images alongside text after all. Of the forums I belong to, including several professional bodies, I've never seen such a hang-up or restriction placed on the exchange of information.....I can't speak for others, but my interest in this forum has waned due to such unneeded restrictions..........as they say though, not my forum, not my rules.

And that is where his point falls apart.........absent Driver conducting anything "threatening", prior to the video release, Canadian authorities would have no reason to even seek a warrant to "watch him"...........as was said to Argus, the authorities either had zero indication that Driver posed a threat or any evidence they did have would have been inadmissible in court.........either way, any such indication of Driver being a threat in the days/weeks/months prior to his video release would have resulted in police action far earlier then when he caught a taxi to go blow people up on their way home from work. What is clear is that Argus has a poor understanding of how the law works, the actual powers security agencies have and the "Clear and Present danger" that "lone wolf" terrorists present to Western Society..........even in a demented World in which the Canadian authorities become a modern day Stasi there is very little an organ of the State can do to a person willing to work alone, with the aim of taking the lives of other people, well intending to take their own life.....

Ahh no, they couldn't........as already established, the Crown didn't have enough information to convict him last year, and the conditions of the Peace Bond were later over turned......a demonstration that there was very little admissible evidence to "watch him", hence, CSIS couldn't have "gotten a warrant"......... And you've yet to demonstrate, absent hindsight, how Driver was a "threat"..............

No, the majority of the conditions of the Terror Peace Bond were overturned......a demonstration that the Crown and security agencies didn't have information to "further watch him"........C-51 was used in this case (the Peace Bond) and was muted last year during his trail, resulting in a piece of paper that told Driver "not to do terrorist stuff"........

As was essentially done in this case.......from my understanding, the FBI contacted the RCMP at ~8:30am EST the day of the take down, by ~11:00am EST they had established who he was, and within minutes they had unmarked cars watching his resident.......followed by the ERT that was present to "take him down" when he left in the taxi around ~4:00-4:30pm EST.

If its not difficult, by all means, explain what Driver was doing in the public sphere, prior to making his video, that would "establish" him as a threat, that would allow Canadian security agencies to obtain a warrant to "watch him" as you've suggested.......if you are aware of something, something missed by Canadian authorities, I would love to see it and would support your inane suggestion that Canadian authorities had nearly shit the bed on this file...... Absent such "establishment" of a "threat" your views and opinions are divorced from the actual real world.

My position is the law......you suggested the various Canadian security agencies should have been "watching Driver", but for such agencies to "watch" Driver they require a warrant, but to obtain a warrant, they need evidence that Driver was a "threat"..........ergo, your position is devoid of reality in a modern Western democracy (minus perhaps Israel). In this recent "incident" with Driver, after obtaining the information from the FBI, the RCMP had no need for a warrant, anymore then a policing agency responding to a domestic dispute or shots fired.

Not in a Canadian court of law.........or he would have been charged as such, convicted and thrown in club fed last year. Period.

This is a demonstration of the new reality.......a solitary person, anywhere in the Western World, could plan and execute a terror attack, as we've seen recently using numerous means, with the authorities not having the slightest clue.

Ahhh no, he wasn't even enough of a "known threat" to be charged and convicted with a crime, nor maintain the conditions of a "terrorist peace bond"......this demonstrates the Canadian authorities either/or didn't have enough evidence to demonstrate Driver was a "known threat", or any evidence they did have was inadmissible........... As has been demonstrated, in the real world, Canadians can't just be monitored by the Canadian Government.

The daily NORAD mission, flown with real life war shots, is in every sense of the word, treated as a military conflict with the daily tempo only dictated by the given threat level deemed in that instance of time. I understand your point and agree that the RCAF's daily routine isn't on the minds of the public's day to day lives, with that said, look at the response, both by media and the public when it was leaked that the Liberals were looking to purchase the Super Hornet through a sole source contract.........the Trudeau Liberals, of all the major Federal parties, are the most sensitive to public response..........The sole sourced Super Hornet plan popped like a balloon just as fast as it became known and there was a reaction...... I think, politically, the backlash with not selecting the F-35 would be felt right away for the Trudeau Liberals, across Canada, but more so in those Liberal ridings in which there are high tech and aerospace industries directly involved in the development and production of the F-35........be they in Quebec, Ontario, the Lower Mainland of British Columbia or on the East Coast.......and that says nothing about any lawsuits or International trade challenges....etc At the this point the Trudeau Liberals aren't deciding what aircraft is best for Canada, that is obvious, they are buying time and gauging the political backlash of going back on Trudeau's promise not to buy it versus following his stated promise and the fallout to follow it. And that is the point, there are no savings to be had, right now the F-35 is cheaper then all others absent the F-16 and Super Hornet, and even then, once the FMS tariff is applied, they are at parity........that's just the initial purchase, forget lifetime sustainment costs and economies of scale........and the Canadian aerospace and high tech industries. The Liberals are in a mess of their own creation, and right now, two of the very aircraft Trudeau said wouldn't be "ready and working for a long time", are on the apron at the airport in Abbotsford BC, adorned with the tail code of an operational USAF squadron.....

That is subjective and open to debate.........if Driver had of waited to post his video to social media we would likely now be discussing the aftermath of his attack and the ensuing deaths and injuries of Canadian commuters.

What "known threat"? The RCMP received the information from the FBI and responded right away......hence the killing of him in the taxi well he was on his way to commit his attack.......even ISIS after the fact said he shit the bed by posting his video too early........prior to his posting of the video there was no "known threat", hence there was no prior information indicating any Canadian authorities needed to apply for a warrant.

To your first question, the FBI (and more so NSA) attempt to monitor all foreign terror threats..........to your later question, CSIS and CSEC can't just lawfully "watch" Canadians (sans warrants, intelligence indicating a foreign threat from a foreign source etc etc) , anymore then the American intelligence agencies can do to Americans.......... In this case, absent a warrant, outside of Driver communicating with terror groups in Dirka-Dirkastain, there is very little Canadian policing and intelligence agencies can do.......... As ISIS is exterminated in Iraq and Syria, it will only become stronger in the metaphysical sense for the West to combat as its further decentralized into a dogma only found in the minds of the deranged and disenfranchised in solitary cells globally........this is the start of the new normal. --------- What is interesting in this case, and hasn't been mentioned in the media or by the Federal Government, and is all but alluded to by the RCMP's legalize filled public statement, is the impact of C-51, namely the portions of the law further granting Canadian policing agencies the ability to act on information, sans a warrant, obtained by a foreign government............if Driver wasn't killed, but detained/arrested and later charged, this could have been the first major challenge of C-51 in a courtroom..........outside the expected challenge of Nuttell and Korody and their "terrorism Peace Bonds" (a new addition to the legal toolbox granted by C-51), an expected challenge based on the previously successful challenge of a "terror Peace Bond" by one Aaron Driver..............remember when Trudeau promised to "fix" C-51 during the election???????? RCMP hollow points just fixed it for him....... ......

Oh I don't know that they will, it would just be the smart political move presently and would allow him to close the file............I honestly don't know how many of his moonbeamed supporters would stopping drinking the Kool-Aid if he reneged on his promise to not by the F-35.

In the case of our current Hornets, we use it daily 24-7-365 There are problems with them now, aside from their unresolved oxygen issue and reduced lifespan (compared with the other 4 proposed aircraft), the Super Hornet (and other 4th generation aircraft) would be hard pressed to survive (presently) in a conflict with modern Russian air defenses and fighters........The Trudeau Liberals have suggested we have a defined contribution to NATO (despite no such evidence) to provide modern fighters, ergo, Canada contributing aircraft that couldn't operate in an environment with S400s and Su-35s isn't going to allow us to meet our contribution. That is very true, made evident by the USN/USMC struggles to keep their aging fleet of legacy Hornets in the air, 20 years after their production ended.....unlike the legacy Hornet, the Super Hornet won't be near as plentiful in terms of parts (scrounged from the Arizona desert)........as such, Canada will be forced to purchase far more spares parts (twice as many engines then an F-35 purchase) and likely an additional ~10-15 attrition aircraft from the onset. Unless they dick around with the accounting, I don't see how a Super Hornet purchase would be cheaper then the F-35 if the same through life costs are applied (as was applied to the F-35) for ~40 years service.

Inversely, if common sense prevailed, and they purchased the F-35 to avoid embarrassment (both by buying an inferior aircraft for the same price or more and gutting Canada's aerospace industry) they can do a bs dog and pony show and say they held a "fair competition", "got the best deal" and "saved Canada's high tech and aerospace industries" etc etc.......and what would the Opposition say? The Tories wouldn't say much, I doubt the Bloc would make too much noise over Quebec aerospace jobs and who cares what the NDP or Greens say........ At this point, aside from it being the actual right selection, buying the F-35 is the right political choice and does little to Trudeau politically.......