
OftenWrong
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Trudeau family in India: The dancing is so appropriate!
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There's a difference between dressing up like everyone else, as seen in those pictures, and dressing in a patronizing way like our ridiculous Liberal PM did in India. Harper is wearing the same clothes that the others are. Trudeau on the other hand insulted Indian people by becoming a caricature of what an uncultured person thinks an Indian dresses like. But the ability to differentiate between things clearly is not a strong Liberal trait.
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America under President Trump
OftenWrong replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Trump redacted what exactly? I would think it was redacted by the CIA or FBI. Are they no longer trustworthy, or is it just when it's not convenient to the anti-Trump narrative. Also, so what if it's Saturday. Seems to be that pushing anti-American propaganda is a full-time job. But you are free to grovel for excuses... -
America under President Trump
OftenWrong replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Sounds like you are well-versed in some kind of American soap-opera. I remember a bunch of people here, probably yourself included insisting that Trump would not release the memo. Well, here it is only a couple of weeks later. I've been trying to find out what the big hoo-hah is all about, but there's not much discussion about it in the media. Instead, they've reverted to publishing popularity polls instead. Seems this highly anticipated memo is another nothing-burger, I guess. "We'll get him next time..." -
I don't recall seeing that discussed here, but I have heard of it. While at face value it seems the most sensible thing to do, it is politically practically impossible, as you have alluded, IE "That will be a tall order". If it ever happens, it is not going to happen any time soon. So that leaves people with the dilemma, what else is there to do? In what seems to be the most bizarre of solutions, it is to increase the presence of even MORE guns. Much like in a situation of war, when there is a real threat, choices become limited. Then the only option is to choose the lessor evil.
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America under President Trump
OftenWrong replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
The report by Mueller was already discussed in this thread. To which you never responded. Memory getting bad? -
America under President Trump
OftenWrong replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
In addition to that manipulation, CNN failed to mention that the "Not My President" protest after the election was also set up by the same Russian group. CNN themselves participated substantially in that one. Nicely played. Oh and Florine Goldfarb - just an old lady who didn't know the Russians were behind it. Her life is now in danger, thanks to CNN. She is 76 years old. Elderly Trump Supporter Woman Exposed To Vicious Harassment Following CNN Report -
Justin Trudeau the Worst PM Since Pierre Trudeau?
OftenWrong replied to bush_cheney2004's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
CBC: Trudeau's trip to India called "Colossal Failure" Poor PM Trudeau must be feeling so unloved. How can he stand it? -
Sure, but not for crazy people, or criminals. The black market for guns will then be huuuge. My argument is you would end up with law abiding citizens like teachers no longer carrying guns. The people who want to commit mass murder will still get the weapons they need. There might be an argument that the removal of guns from everyday life would reduce gun violence committed by acts of passion, but that's not the current debate.
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The issue is fairly complex, given the history and number of guns that proliferate. We perhaps do not understand a culture where guns are normalized. Of course many in the US own guns, and this includes teachers. I am not endorsing any particular action either way, but pointing these facts out. Prohibition of guns is out of the question because, as I have said, "the genie is out of the bottle". The resulting black market will negate any presumed benefit. So, if you can accept that fact, next question is... now what.
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Teachers are already being armed, and many do so willingly. If you can't or won't read links that's your problem. I can help you no further. In pondering your question, I'd certainly rather be armed in a place where I feel vulnerable, or knowing that someone else on my staff is armed, than not be armed at all. That is why some teachers want to be armed, especially those who already own their own guns and are comfortable carrying them, of which could be quite a lot in the US. Maybe you should do a little research yourself before posting out of sheer ignorance.
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Nonsense. You fight fire with fire, that's how it works. The people who do this are absolute cowards. Think about it... what kind of a person would enter a room full of unarmed people and start shooting? A coward. Now if they know everyone is packing a weapon, all of them or almost all of them would not even try it. That is why they pick these types of places in the first place, easy pickings. It would be nice to remove all the guns, but that is not going to happen. Any such suggestion is a waste of time. All that does is bolster the black market, just like prohibition, and these cowards will buy their weapons in the street. And then, nobody else who is a law abiding citizen will have a gun to defend themselves. That is why the idea of prohibiting guns for law abiding folks is not a solution. There are many very nasty evil people in the world who don't think like you do, and they never will. It's just a harsh fact of reality.
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Some of those links go back quite a few years, so this is not a new issue. I haven't heard of an incident involving use of teacher's gun, but I don't know how they secure the guns. Another part of the deterrent they use is putting up signs at the school notifying everyone that teachers are armed, and ready to blow your head off if you make a false move.
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Justin Trudeau the Worst PM Since Pierre Trudeau?
OftenWrong replied to bush_cheney2004's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Jagmeet Singh is a supporter of the terrorist who was responsible for the Air India bombing. Already well known and documented. Link Another reason for Indians to view Canada as a haven for terrorists, and not to be trusted. -
A quick google search shows that some states already have laws allowing teachers to carry guns, and quite a number of teachers have come forward expressing interest in doing it. Colorado to arm teachers in classrooms (June 2017) Arkansas district will arm 20 teachers and staff (2013) More Ohio schools arm teachers to shoot attackers (2016) Utah: More Teachers Authorized to Carry Weapons in Classroom (2014) Armed Teachers: Over 600 Have Applied for Training (2013) There's plenty more.
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Of course it is, because the public has been duped/ bombarded with anti-Trump propaganda non-stop, to the point that they are almost hysterical. They'll support any nonsense coming from the mouths of Democrats, many of whom do not care about what's right or what makes sense, they are looking for anything that will give them political leverage, by demonizing Donald Trump. Because they know it's unlikely that Trump will implement new weapons ban laws, just like Obama would not/ could not. But that little factoid is being kept quiet in their dialogue. So yes, this is propaganda.
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Incorrect, they do want to stop gun crime. "Strong support nationally" is just the Dems typical use of propaganda to get an emotional rise out of people. Because, TRUMP. The same criticism you have levelled here can be applied to Obama who also did nothing much that was effective. So, not a partisan issue at all.