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You only need one reason not to vote for Dion. He's a Liberal, and after three majority mandates and 13 years they didn't get it done.

If the Liberals had made that guarantee and didn't fulfill it, I would have called it a broken promise. It is a broken promise as the party is into its second budget. Dobbin, But the reality is,parties make promises before an election hoping to win. And that win is hoping there is a majority. What party ever made a promise saying they wouldn't keep it if they had a minority? What about all the committees that are loaded with opposition members who refuse to advance a bill out of committee, who's to blame? And let's not forget, the party who had a majority for a period of three mandates not holding their promises.......that's not excuseable, or is it?

This is exactly why I wouldn't touch one. The complexity of today's cars are such that even the dealers don't repair anymore, they just replace. Bumped wheel on a curb isn't just a replacement of rim and tire, it's the whole front suspension,time doesn't permit proper evaluation,replacement,is faster and of course more profiteable. And in many cases they have you convinced to replace the vehicle rather than repair. Manufacturers are short cutting and computerizing the whole car with sensors, which cause the failure of other sensors from reading the information properly and in turn prevent the operation of the car.What ever happened to simple A to B transportation? New is not always better, and Hybrid I don't think is the answer, just another environmental problem.

Cheaper than Breast Augmentation? But, do they feel like the real thing?

The Senate would be nice.

Stop drinking Don't buy dairy,you don't need it. Give up your cell phone, you only think you need it. Works for me.

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Wappel retires This is one Liberal who definately was a square peg. Is his "retirement" an indication of Dion cleaning house? In any case Wappel has to have been the most conservative of Liberals in the party in the last 20 years.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....e=voted+Liberal I said it other times, unfortunately the search engine sucks. Maybe you can search with better results. Prior to 1993 I voted only Liberal. I have criticized Mulroney(that's why the vote for Chretien). I have no reason to lie.....I'm not a diehard Liberal......I'm not in denial...... I vote for solutions to issues that I feel are the best answers to problems we have.

Sorta reminds me of the popularity of Al Gore, today the media is giving a different picture of Al after making him out to be the best climate scientist in the world. I think the media has a lot to do to turning the popularity of any public figure on or off. In December,Dion was turned on. Today Dion has been turned off. Maybe it's because he looks different in incandescent than in fluorescent.

The emphasis should not have been on the vehicles but rather on the fuel. A substantial reduction on these fuels would reward people who use these fuels. Reducing the cost of of these fuels by 25-50% might be a better incentive than the big engine/little engine rebate. Many countries are promoting Diesel as an alternative to gasoline and have a greater difference in the price between the two.I know our diesel is not up to "clean" standards yet, but buyers may be more inclined to buy alternative fuels if the price warranted it. Isn't the idea to get away from gasoline use?

You set your standards for non-Liberals in your local riding very high, while accepting the Federal Liberal standards rather low. Like I said before, you make excuses to only vote for Liberals,pretending faults with non-Liberals are always greater than your beloved Liberals. The answers to issues are not a big part of your rationale, and you will always have nothing good to say about any non-Liberal. For you,the Liberals are the only answer,the only solution. Thankfully other Canadians look to the answers to solutions beyond the party, and are willing to accept change for the betterment of Canada.

They are like the Liberals in the cynical use of a bloated budget at election time. I couldn't stand that under the Liberals. I also can't stand the use of fear tactics in an election campaign. I am seeing these things repeated now by a party that said they would do things differently. I basically sat out the last federal election in terms of organizing. I did vote though. The person I voted for last election was John Loewen, a former PC cabinet minister who ran as a Liberal. Our family's experience with Stephen Fletcher when he was president of the University of Manitoba students union left me cold about supporting him no matter which party he ran for. Had he ran as a Liberal, I would have thrown a protest vote elsewhere. You make a lot of excuses, but I doubt if you would vote for anyone but a Liberal regardless of issues. Just face it, your a diehard Liberal.

And you have voted other parties? As I said, I would voter other parties if they were not so socially conservative. I don't believe in the economics of the NDP. I could consider Greens but the organization in Manitoba is a mess and I don't know where they stand. I looked into Reform when they had their convention in Winnipeg because I was interested in their western stance after the CF-18 incident. I was a little taken aback by some of conference attendees though because really were far right of me when it came to social issues. I have voted Liberal,Conservative,Reform,Alliance. I look at the issues, not the party. I've said this before, if the Liberals were on track with issues they would get my vote, but they are not, and haven't been in my book for some time.I agree with you on the NDP, as for the Greens, a one issue party that would will never be in power. Question: If the Tories are more like the Liberals, why wouldn't you vote for them?

I've voted Liberal because I'm not a social Conservative. I might have voted for Joe Clark had I been old enough to vote for him at the time. Not likely. Born a Liberal,die a Liberal. Issues fall by the wayside.

Isn't he a Liberal???? I don't know about his past....but as far as I know, he is a Liberal now. Am I wrong? He was elected Progressive Conservative member of the Canadian Parliament for the riding (electoral district) of Sherbrooke in the 1984 election. From 1984 to 1986, Charest served as Assistant Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons. In 1986, at age 28, he was appointed to the Cabinet of then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney as Minister of State for Youth. He was the youngest cabinet minister in Canadian history. He was appointed Minister of State for Fitness and Amateur Sport in 1988, but had to resign from cabinet in 1990 after improperly speaking to a judge about a case regarding the Canadian Track and Field Association. He returned to cabinet as Minister of the Environment in 1991. PC Leader After Mulroney's retirement as PC leader and prime minister, Charest was a candidate for the leadership of the party at the 1993 Progressive Conservative leadership convention. He impressed many observers and party members, and placed a strong second to Defence Minister Kim Campbell, who had held a large lead going into the convention. Charest served as Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Industry, Science and Technology in Campbell's short-lived cabinet. In the 1993 election, the PCs were swept from power. Only two of the party's 295 candidates were elected— Charest and Elsie Wayne. As the only surviving member of what would turn out to be the last PC Cabinet, Charest was appointed interim party leader and confirmed in the post in April 1995. Charest therefore became the first (and last) French Canadian leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. In the 1997 election, the Tories received 19% of the vote, winning 20 seats out of 301, mostly in Atlantic Canada. The party was back from the brink, but Charest considered the result a disappointment. Charest

But you still always vote for them.

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Watch it happen. Too many in his own party are disappointed in him and will love to have an excuse to have him outed. There won't be a second chance with Dion.

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Too bad the BQ didn't keep quiet about siding with the conservatives until AFTER Dion had his statements.It might have sounded different from Dion if he didn't know. Not wanting an election, he actually might have said he would hold his nose and support the budget.Same with Layton.

Then let that be the hallmark of saving the environment. Because it saves money. But it's not in the spirit of the issue. You trade your car in because your cheap. You buy new light bulbs because your cheap. You get a new washing machine because the old one is broke and the new one saves on detergent and water..cheap again. You ride a bike to work because parking costs an arm and a leg, and lets not forget the gas cost...we're just plain cheap. Concerned about the environment? Give up your car totally. Live close enough to your work place, that you can walk. Live in a smaller house. Don't have a lawn. Buy from the bulk store,farmer's market,avoid foods in packaging that gets thrown out. Don't buy items you don't really need.That old TV still worked why did you need a new one? Get clothes from second hand stores,they're still good. I could go on and on, we're all hypocrites when it comes to the environment and in our little brains we all think we're doing something important for mother earth. The truth is we're not and like jbg said: "No one is going to cut their standard of living over this hooey."

I do all of these things too. But let's quit pretending we're doing it for the environment. With the exception of re-cycling, we do all of these changes for only one reason. Because we're cheap.

Yup, the Liberals sure learned how stinky spending taxpayer money can get.