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Have we considered that jbander is trolling the form? No attempt at an argument is made, or tasteful discussion of evidence or recognition of fact.

Please read above, I address this, Malone has no example of lying, holds many titles and is respected in the scientific community. Please consider taking a few critical thinking, introduction to logic and reasoning courses, university level preferably. They will help you form a complete understanding on how to determine facts, statements, opinions and falsehoods.

What won't work? See this is what I mean. It would be nice if you could at least try to make sense.

I did read all 500 pages. Printed it off and read it over several nights. I noticed several things right away that alarmed me. The biggest one is that they eliminated the control group VERY early on. That is a HUGE No-No. Massive No-No. Then (because while I do understand quite a lot of medical stuff and how clinical trials are to be conducted, I am not trained in virology or immunology), I read what Pfizer-paid doctors and scientists had to say about the 500 pages AND I also read what independent, non-biased doctors and scientists had to say about them, so as to fill in the gaps of my knowledge. I think, actually, that the release of those 500 pages may be what is starting to wake up some of the media - some of whom are now doing actual investigative journalism instead of just propaganda - and doctors - some of whom are realizing that forcing this experimental vaccine on everyone without regard to previous or future health issues, is a violation of the Hippocratic Oath and against the Nuremburg Code. Maybe you could start off by searching for the Great Barrington Declaration? That's an interesting read.

"There and back again", another year on.

This is false equivalency. Obey stops signs, speed limits, traffic lights and wear seatbelts are laws created for the public to follow, with evidence pointing to cases where failure to do so causes great harm or death. Obey stops signs would be equivalent to washing your hands at a hospital. What you are suggesting instead is we manage where stops signs are placed and how we should design or run stop signs in neighborhoods. Why would we be asked to manage stops signs or hospitals, we pay into such systems so we are not required to think about such things. What is the point of paying managers if we are the managers of these systems? The equivalency would be for a mobile company telling you that you use too much internet, thus you are to blame for the shortage in bandwidth, thus they force you to use less internet or limiting your phone. Although this may be true, this is not your problem. You pay for them to solve these problems for you. There is nothing about pay for service system that is community based. If it was a voluntary system, where your responsibilities were treated as payment, I could see your point. But its not.

Yada yada. Without restrictions the virus will spread like other viruses and the results will be comparable to flu. The hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. Staffing shortages are the result of over testing and over-screening at this point. End all restrictions immediately. Let people return to their lives. If you’re still worried about Covid after your third vaccine, stay away from people, go on a diet, mask up, exercise, do what you need to do. It’s time to declare the pandemic over and set an end date. We’ve been conditioned to think restrictions are normal and should be reimposed at will by leaders. We’ve let the public health puritans run our lives long enough.

So it's just like that, the system needs you, Politburo said let's go? No explanations or Heaven forbid, evidence needed? No responsibility from "managers" who took it (the system) to the state where its hopelessly throttled by a flu-like infection while merrily raking public thousands and millions? Wow and wow. The only thing I'm still curious about here is, what will we be saying on the year ten of this story? Will we already have caught up with China and such, or shoot right past them?

The general public is not responsible for maintaining the health care system. There are a number of high paid individuals who chose to take a position. A position where they maintain the health care system, specifically for the greater good of the public. Look to those individuals who are responsible, not the general public, if need be replace the responsible individuals. Generally we do not blame young teens for breaking their leg and causing an extra body in the emergency system. Vaccines are not a guarantee and do not prevent hospitalizations or ICU cases.

You added this part to your answer so I will address it. Health experts on TV? The science has proven that not everyone has the same risk of dying from covid. A 14 year old faces a far, far less risk than someone in their 80's. The survival rate is still over 99%. The vast majority of deaths have been amongst the elderly and the obese. Which is why we shouldn't be vaccinating teenagers like they're 80 year olds.

Meh...he can troll all he likes. Fellows like this are only really settled on a battlefield. He's ready for Bull Run...even if the nation is not.

That statement alone tells me you didn't read it.

As much as I can. Which is better than you reading none of them.

I'd just like to point out that if this was truly a deadly virus or bacteria, you wouldn't need to be reminded of that fact daily without evidence by your dear leaders.

As heard this morning, the hospitalization rate for omicron is 1/100 (cases, not population). Now, with early treatments like monoclonal therapy, paxlovid and others, that can be reduced by up to another factor of ten. One or a few hospitalizations in a thousand cases is quite the same as flu. So, the question is not whether Covid is a flu; but it can be like a flu with the right organization, operation and management of the system; or it can be a "tsunami". We make it one or the other, not the virus. And looks like we've made our choice.

Could be but not specifically. Generally when people talk about "they" they're talking about the chain from the varied Powers that Be and the influencers of society on down. That could be all of the above and more or simply something specific along the chain. Why are you pretending you don't know that? I guess if you're wanting a specific face in the crowd though I'm going to say at this moment in history it's what I'll call Progressive Socialists. Simply because that's the face that manifests where you can see it. That would include everything from the global resetters, to the corporates and billionaire elites that have flipped their influence to the left, to social media to the power that infests politics at mid-levels in corporations, education, or politics. They're all along the chain of "They."

You are free to look things up if you have questions. The government is not going to be proud of this of course, and that means hiding information. They failed to support nurses during this crisis, when they are needed most. Whether it be due to mandates or otherwise, this is a failure of management and here now is the result.

Some guy who can't post quotes or links properly, nor can he structure an intelligible sentence has one trick. He calls people stupid. Projection much? (You won't know what that is, jbander. Have you at least figured Google out yet? If so, look it up under the term, "psychological projection.) No wait you'll do it wrong even if you try it. Here, I'll help you...

jbander is a perfect example of how progressives typically engage in discourse. They typically don't. He's willing to shout and hurl insults but not at all willing to listen. Zero tolerance from the so-called tolerant progressives. Small wonder there is so much violence coming from the left.

I heard an expert on TV say the other day the there is a new oral, at home use, Pfizer drug called Paxlovid to treat people with Covid and it is 98% effective. It is an anti-viral at home drug. But it has to go through the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHA) to be approved. In the meantime, how many more people will die that could have been saved with this drug? How much urgency does the PHA put on this kind of thing? I don't have a whole lot of confidence that they will act swiftly. Yet the UK has approved it and the US FDA approved it two weeks ago. Why is the PHA of Canada so slow? "“Today’s authorization introduces the first treatment for COVID-19 that is in the form of a pill that is taken orally — a major step forward in the fight against this global pandemic,” said Patrizia Cavazzoni, M.D., director of the FDA’s Center for Drug Evaluation and Research. “This authorization provides a new tool to combat COVID-19 at a crucial time in the pandemic as new variants emerge and promises to make antiviral treatment more accessible to patients who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19.” Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes First Oral Antiviral for Treatment of COVID-19 | FDA

Actually, that was me who posted that and I'm not sure why you would think it supports anything you've said. Malone is an obvious expert medical researcher and knows so much more about the subject than you or the arts major you offered up as your expert he makes you both look like chimps. Dana introduces him as "a clinical research scholar and the original inventor of the mRNA platform that is used in Pfizer and Moderna vaccines." That's a fair description. Malone did this: He then showed the vaccine producers who followed how " to ease mRNA’s passage into a living organism."

Rogan has interviewed doctors and scientists from both sides of the vaccine/covid/restrictions debates. Something mainstream media is either reluctant to do or not allowed to do. Hearing both sides and being able to question both sides is how you "do" science. Which is why it's amusing to me that some of you solidly refuse to hear anything but the Big Pharma narrative and absolutely never question it. And then you accuse others, like Rogan, of "not following the science."

What I don't get is why jbander1A thinks he's qualified to critique a recognized researcher like Doctor Malone. His insistence on attacking the guy with nothing but insults based on nothing is getting more than a little ridiculous.

This one in the Journal, Nature is about as fair as you're going to get from the scientific consensus gang: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w Now there's a lot going on before and after that in the field but I can see how Doctor Malone believes he created the technology that backbones mRNA vaccines.

Canada’s swan dive off the cliff continues, but... this is what OntariOWE and PAYbec want. ?

She's less popular than one might think. She has a decent sized social media following but they're most likely just looky-loos. She gets voted in, in, in a small Democrat gerrymandered district of Progs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201716/favorability-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-us-adults/ Tucker explains how her more widespread unpopularity started early in her term: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTyQs5Gc0zo

I have to wonder what on earth her supporters see in her? She get's a lot of attention from the paparazzi but no actual accomplishments to date. Take away the adoring MSM and what is she left with?

I guess if the Nazis bothered with "referenda" in the occupied countries, it would have all been legit, yes comrade?