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IF you can prove that it wasn't really euthanasia.....but plain and simple murder. Who's to say it wasn't? That's the problem.

Fair enough but if you check out the financial reports for the various years he was in power, it shows what they call a Scorecard which evaluates how the government estimated the economy in the budget and how it actually happened. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/webarchives/20071126012234/http://www.fin.gc.ca/afr/2000/afr00_5e.html In most cases they underestimated revenues and overestimated spending because the economy was booming, not because of what they were doing but rather because of what was happening south of us. If they were true wizards (and I don't mean that facetiously) then their estimates for both revenue and spending would have been in line with their budgets. Its like my old boss used to tell me when I estimated jobs, being over by 10% is equally as bad as being under by 10% for an estimator since you weren't right either way! Like I said, they were the beneficiaries of an economic boom. Full disclosure, at the time I remember wanting to vote for Chretien but voted PC for my local MP. I don't dislike the guy but I just don't agree with anyone who who thinks any leader is anything more than a guy sailing the ship through the waters of a global economy. If times are good then the water is calm (Chretien years) but when the waters are rough like they were in the Harper years then you can't expect magic.

So all those mounds of naked, rake thin bodies in the concentration camps in the old B&W movies we watched in school in the sixties were what, CGI effects? And all the living were just actors who had been on a diet? And they all signed a confidentiality agreement, including the people who 'posed' as camp guards, to maintain their lie for the rest of their lives? All the many hundreds of thousands of them? There comes a point when believing in bloody stupidity because you read it on some backwater of the internet doesn't just make you seem gullible, it makes you stupid.

This week in Islam a young woman who dared to show her face in public has been sentenced to two years in prison in Iran for 'encouraging moral corruption'. She took off her veil in a protest. Gasp! What a slut! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43329896

In an age of nations, territories united only by royal marriage are not a very good bet.

The movie, "Soylent Green," comes to mind. ....but I don't imagine it will be as fancy, as how it's shown in the movie. If it happens....the first ones to go will be those without any relatives....or anyone who cares enough to come for visits. Those who are alone in this world.

Simple: once PET finished his brilliant socialist inspired brand of social engineering and Marxist economic planning, all that would be left of Canada would be just society.

I can understand where those who want assisted suicide are coming from. But I can also understand the fear of the disabled people who are protesting against it - they feel very vulnerable. Everything starts out for a good reason, or what may seem that way. It's the slippery slope that makes people wary.

Or maybe August is just really ugly. You think of that?

It was too bad that all Canadians had to be robbed of their tax dollars for papa Trudeau to build his just society. If what we are seeing today is a just society well than give me back the good old days before that misfit came along. And just what was this just society all about? I think that it had something to do with getting rid of the WASP society. Trudeau had no love for the British or the Queen. Trudeau must have been really pizzed off when Wolfe kicked Montcalm's azz on the Plains of Abraham. Just saying.

And so will the rest of us also pay. No one wants to pay for anything themselves. They want other people's money to also help finance those expensive programs and agendas.

The Liberals especially seem to forget that they demanded a huge economic incentive program, and complained several times over the following years that it wasn't big enough and that more spending was called for. And yet the same Liberal supporters who shrug off Trudeau having deficits during really good economic times criticize Harper for having deficits THEY DEMANDED under really bad economic times. Does anyone have the slightest doubt about what deficits we would have run if Trudeau was in power then? Or even Ignatieff and his two amigos from the NDP and BQ?

There used to be a TV show about expert demolitionists and how they demolished huge buildings with explosives. You should check out some of their videos. It took them weeks to set everything up, with a truckload of explosives carefully distributed all around the stress points of the building right up against the support beams. The suggestion all of this was done prior to 9/11 without anyone noticing is insane.

I'd rather we expand the role that governments play for things like car insurance and wonder why ICBC shouldn't also get into home insurance as well. Insurance for the masses should be like pharma-care where our governments can negotiate better prices for us by eliminating a vast swath of unnecessary middle-men. I'm willing to bet the biggest reason for the inefficiency often associated with governments in these roles is due to political interference and that is an entirely different issue that has to do with the chronic lack of transparency that plagues just about every government on the planet;

Nazi Germany did. By murdering 6 million Jews and making millions more refugees in Europe. Under British rule they moved to what used to be called Palestine and took it over and declared the state of Israel where most likely all population were born in another country ot even another continent. The Arabs were made refugees in neighboring states living in tents for decades while being attacked from ground and air. So they started fighting back by forming resistance groups (or terrorist groups depending on your view) like PLO. These are facts. Historic facts. Now we are passed all these. It is time for Arabs to recognize the state of Israel and it is time for Israel to recognize Arab's rights to their homeland as well and cease brutal actions against defenseless civilians. Israel has done a lot of good to the world in science and technology and medicine. Much more than Arabs who have been mostly desctructive but what is fair is fair and what is fact is fact.

I just finished World Order by Kissinger. You should read that. Peace Treaties, when well designed, assume that countries will generally pursue peace but will pursue war on an opportunistic basis. Part of the problem with WW1 was that, like today, there had been a lasting peace and war was thought unlikely. Your last part mixes up foreign policy and immigration policy. If you are implying that 'progressives' (whatever that means) are incorrect then please have the courage to be specific.

I cannot agree with you that it was modern, progressive, civilized or federal; or that minorities were respected. Historical facts prove otherwise. Take the Crown Prince for example. Franz Ferdinand, the Archduke of Bosnia-Herzegovina, is sometimes portrayed as a progressive by some historians who aren't looking at the whole picture. He was no such thing. What he really was, was a reactionary who wanted German Austria to dominate the empire again. In 1867, the Hungarians won their piece of the pie. But did they share their power with the other repressed minorities or promote their causes? Hell no. They guarded their newly-won rights just as jealously as the Germans guarded theirs. F.F. was sick of the Hungarian element in the rule of the empire so he wanted to screw them over somehow. How do you do that? Simple: promote the rights of the other minorities of the empire--Serbs, Croats, Bohemians, Slovaks for instance. Give them a tiny piece of the pie each and it takes a crap-ton of power away from the Hungarian aristocracy. If the crown prince had become emperor, and had had his way, the Hungarian element in the empire's governance would have been squashed and the Germans back in sole control of the empire. In fact, he had a map drawn up to show how the empire could be a federal state, calling the scheme The United States of Great Austria. Again, it was all a ruse to screw the Hungarians and reassert Germanic control of the empire. Some progressivism! The empire might have been multi-ethnic, but as far as Vienna and Budapest were concerned, only two of those ethnicities had a manifest destiny to rule the rest of them. As for why it is no more, well, when you lose a war, all bets are off. Losing a war is disastrous to any body politic, especially a multiethnic powderkeg that was, essentially, an accident waiting to happen. The empire wasn't even really a single empire, and not just because of its multi-ethnic composition. It was divided into Transleithania (the Hungarian zone) and Cisleithania (the Austrian zone). The minorities of the empire had been divvied up between the two groups of elites (Germans and Magyars) without respect to those minorities' interests. In fact, to demonstrate how inefficiently governed it was, no Hapsburg subject ever carried such a thing as an "Austro-Hungarian" passport: those living in the Hungarian zone carried a Kingdom of Hungary passport; those in the Austrian, an Austrian imperial passport. There were two different treasury ministers. Two different prime ministers, two different cabinets. There were several "joint" ministers, but only for foreign affairs, war, and the part of the treasury that controlled the expenditure of the House of Hapsburg. As far as internal trade, a customs union between Austria and Hungary had to be renegotiated by the two parliaments every ten years. A state that is that disorganized won't survive the strains and stresses of global war. (Which I think answers your question...) A famous historian called the Holy Roman Empire "neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire." The Austro-Hungarian empire was neither entirely Austrian, nor entirely Hungarian, nor an empire; at least not like its Russian or German neighbors. All it took to collapse the house of cards was a slight gust of wind...

I realized the question was for DoP but I meant that empires don't last because they are composed of many different cultures and races that weren't put together voluntarily. If the countries that made up the empire had wanted to stay part of the empire, there was nothing stopping them. General Sir Charles Napier Interesting guy. He had a lot of great quotes.