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As Tarek Fatah‏ just said: The blood of Manchester's children is on the hands of men in the West who refuse to name Islamism as a problem, let alone fight the cancer.

Well, IMO there are moderate Muslims but not enough of them speak out, likely for fear of reprisals.

Meanwhile, the youngsters of Manchester are pulling pieces of their friend’s flesh out of their hair and yet people are worried about ‘Islamophobia’

DOP is a 'paid interloper'... seriously, you can throw around this stuff with no proof. I guess personal attacks really are the ammunition of the uninformed.

We are the victims of terrorism from Muslims. Sunny based ISIL claimed repsonsibility for the horrific attack in Manchester yesterday. Shame on us and shame on president Trump for not being tough enough. They are going to kill jews as well. G-d bless jews and G-d bless Israel. B'ezrat HaShem, Am Israel Chai.

Yah I know and they don't seem to recall any part of how their own people imposed themselves on the land of others- its a one way dialogue of reinventing history and it frustrates me all these years later people still think they can erase Israel as a mainstream political idea that leftists have embraced and are too cowardly to state in other than in code/ buzz words. As for the second comment I was making a rhetorical comment not directed at you. Lol kind of silly directing the second one at you I agree but the device of "people you speak to"-why not say MUSLIMS and say you are trying to explain the Muslim political view in mainstream ME that calls for the undoing of Israel. Why use indirect references?. That said you know I respect your opinions as progressive, clear and fair. I was more directing my comments at leftists and anyone including Muslims embracing the destruction of Israel. The real issues in the Middle East deal with water, what will happen to the Beduins in the face of ever expanding urbanization, what happens between Sunnis and Shiite, what happens between Western Muslims and those in their faith in the ME holding on to traditional Eastern values and in turn embracing terrorism and extremism as a way to resist Westernization, etc. Using Israel's existence as an excuse to ignore these issues and pretend they don't exist to me is b,.s. To me Muslim extremism is an attempt to resist the tide of Western ideology that comes through the internet and in the guise of Coke, MacDonald's, rap music, Adidas and nike, which have already gained a permanent foothold in the minds of young Muslims along with concepts as to sexuality that the traditional Muslim world sees as a cultural and religious war by the West to undo everything Islam stands for. Yesterday we see another classic attack in Manchester which at its root and substance will probably be some Muslim fundamentalist terrorist thinking he struck hard at Western corruption of the minds of children by killing those children and sending a message to others. Ariana Grande is oh so decadent. It is just an extreme recycle version of burning books, smashing records and caling Elvis and the Beatles agents of Satan, It wasn't too long ago Christian preachers were urging records be smashed - the problem though is they never went this far. We challenged fundamentalist preachers, just as we now challenge fundamentalist Muslims. Its not Islamophobia. This brings us back to the topic-when does challenging Islamic extremist values stop being called Islamophobia? I get it. References that smeer all Muslims as negative that is not fair and its hateful. I get that. I argue that. I do not like however the selectivity of the MP and Trudeau as to what I considered selective ethnic pandering to get brownie points after the attack on the Mosques. The attacks should have been condemned in a manner that did not single out hatred of Muslims as having a priority over other forms of hatred. That decision to phrase it as if it was more important to me was wrong. This is a regime that exploits such themes for feel good moments. How long ago was Trudeau shedding a tear for aboriginals. When push comes to shove his inquiry as to missing aboriginal women has proven an insult to aboriginals and is shut down and its the same old Indian Affairs Ministry policies. This man in office has done nothing. His legacy has been to pander to political events for feel good photos. Period. He has not initiated one policy, passed one law. He avoids questions in Parliament and is now trying to change the law so he can avoid questions to continue his contempt for being accountable to Parliament. This is a spoiled brat who has avoided Parliament because he's an arrogant rich boy and does not feel he needs to explain himself. Mr. Silver Spoon rides in private jets and has private holidays with people his government funds. He sees no conflict. He has acted completely irresponsibly creating a debt that will curse generations to come and set of cycles of inflation many years from now. He's deliberately allowed our immigration laws to collapse in chaos. He can not and has not expressed one policy that unifies Canadians. Now he engages dishonestly in Tehran in reinstating relations with this nation knowing it engaged in cold blooded murder of Canadians. As I said that should be no surprise considering his anti semitic brother lobbies in favour of Iran and did a propaganda documentary favourable to their Muslim council representing it as a progressive force. This is a man who has Omar Alleghbra an open anti semite and pro Hamas terrorist supporter as his ME advisor. Watch how Trudeau will ignore the Persian community in Canada reinstating relations with Iran getting no apology for the death of an innocent journalist by their government. Islamophobia? You bet. The current regime fears progressive Muslims and gets into bed with extremist ones.

No, he is not.

I was just watching BBC news where the broadcaster has told us that in the U.K. they have more individuals like this homicide bomber under investigation than ever before. In 2015 there over 3000 extremists under investigation. I guess this crackdown hasn't been enough http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11457174/Extremism-in-Britain-Now-the-crackdown-is-launched.html

All true. The problem is these people are the minority. And a lot of them are talking out of both sides of their mouths. Throughout the vast Muslim world clerics are pounding the pulpit and screeching about the evils of western culture and the dangers of the infidels and their immoral, decadence and godlessness, and the danger posed by the filthy Jews. For every Muslim scholar who signs some sort of apologetic letter a thousand more will sign a letter stating that gays must die. For every western Muslim cleric involved in any sort of inter religious cooperation a thousand others are decrying infidels. If they are saying this in mosques in Canada what do you think they're saying in mosques in Lebanon and Jordan and Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia? Or in the schools? Irshad Manji famously talked about her time in a Muslim school in Canada and how rigid, conservative and anti-Semitic the teachers were. What are Muslims really being taught and told away from the media, where it really matters?

It's a dangerous book for a number of reasons...but for terrorism's purpose, it is because the Jihadi is rewarded with what I like to call Heaven-Plus. Not only are your sins all washed away...dying in the name of Allah, that is...but you get fast tracked to the best part of Heaven...with the Companions and heroes of Islam. Perhaps Big Mo, himself! Not to mention the sex... Plus, the Jihadi gets to nominate friends and family to ALSO get this treatment upon death or posthumously. Diabolical, really.

M103 is now a reality and websites like ol' MLW are monitored by you-know-who. Our IPs are already a well-worn hard-drive full of "Islamophobia" in some vault. Some might say submission is now the only real option.

I see where you're trying to go with this, and I would agree with the statements if you were to add: 1) All men are part of a formal "group" or "religion" that says it's expected that they rape women, and 2) there were 500 rapes per year in Canada where the men stated they did it for said group/religion. Anyone agreeing with those actions actually would be sympathizing with rapists, and there would probably be a significant chance that they are also rapists. If this were the case, you probably should hate all men and hold them guilty.

A Muslim follows Islam. The Infidel is Islam's enemy. The Quran ORDERS Muslims to fight the Unbeliever until ALL religion is for Allah. Not some...not 25%...

I'm very sorry to come-out yet again against your preferred death cult...but it was again busy over the weekend and shows no sign of letting-up. So, you'd like me to stop being mean to Islam...I understand this...thought about it...and decided against submitting to your cult.

Couldn't find even ONE aspect of Islam that is moderate? Say it isn't so...must be scribblet's fault.

London Mayor Says Terrorism Is ‘Part And Parcel Of Living In A Big City’. This was the new normal...you dirty unbelievers.

Rinse, repeat and wait for the next attack...and you moderates can speak out against your death cult yet again.

This week in Islam, the group ISIS - which 92% of Saudis said 'conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law' set off a bomb among a group of mostly schoolgirls at a concert hall in Manchester, England, killing 22 and wounding dozens of others. <S> Said a spokesman for ISIS "What? Hey? We were being moderate! All we killed were females, and they're not worth much! Furthermore, they were infidel whores! Why should anyone care? Geez, try to be nice!"</s> http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/explosion-at-manchester-ariana-grande-show-causes-number-of-confirmed-fatalities

This week in Islam, Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim state, and one of its' most 'moderate' ones, demonstrated its tolerance and kindness of spirit by publicly caning a couple of gay guys while a crowd watched, cheered and took pictures. Sarojini Mutia Irfan, a female university student who witnessed the caning, said it was a necessary deterrent. “What they have done is like a virus that can harm people’s morale,” she said. “This kind of public punishment is an attempt to stop the spread of the virus to other communities in Aceh.” http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/it-was-a-necessary-deterrent-two-men-in-indonesia-publicly-caned-83-times-for-gay-sex

No such a thing as moderate Muslims. They are just not compatible with other faiths.

So, let's take a look at a much more common situation: Scenario 1: Man and woman arguing in a lounge. It's getting pretty heated. She stands up and slaps him and then walks out. Everyone around starts talking about it quietly and continues about their business. Scenario 2: Man and woman arguing in a lounge. It's getting pretty heated. He stands up and slaps her and then walks out. Everyone around grabs their phones and calls the police because the woman was just assaulted. At least one guy follows the first guy outside to confront him and possibly start a fight to "defend women". First guy ends up charged with assault and, once convicted, loses his job and visitation rights to his kids. Now consider your own reactions to both situations honestly. Still think there's equality?

The religion of peace shows its love and tolerance yet again.

You don't think 9/11 shaped my 'advocacy'? You don't think the relentless drumbeat of outrages and slaughter, of gleeful murder and fanaticism coming from Muslims around the world, throughout the West and in Canada and the US might have 'shaped my advocacy'? You don't think my judgement might be influenced by things like Manchester, and the kind of mindset which could plan and perpetrate it? I've admitted before that I can be a judgmental SOB, and that judgement is often harsh, unrestrained by the dainty, delicate oh-so-precious desire for inclusiveness and embracing 'the other' that progressives use as a substitute for the religious beliefs they don't hold. Islam is a violent religion and ideology, a violently hateful and violently intolerant religion and ideology which inspires violence and intolerance in its adherents. It proscribes death for any which disagree with it, death for any who challenge it, death for any who even try to interpret it differently, death for those who do not obey its moral beliefs, death for those who offend it. The extremists aren't a fringe, they are the mainstream. It is the moderates who are a fringe, and they largely exist only in Western countries.

You lift a shovel let alone know what one is. That was funny! More!. "he showed up at the construction site wearing spandex-there was no choice but to stick a red flag where it did not shine and use him as a traffic ordinance." Rue 1777

Your comments again bait and try get personal. You assume? Disturbing passion? Right. Your posing as a psychonanalyst and moral judge continues to show you have nothing to debate and your role is to come on this forum and bait and make snide personal attacks because you have NOTHING to contribiute other than a need to put down others. You feel superior now? What a joke.

Trump is a businessman...he doesn't give a hoot about poor human rights nor to SA's notorious affiliations to ISIS, Boko Haram Al Qaeda. This whole "show trial" by Trump with a gesture towards saudi king is nothing but just usual rhetorics to the mullahs in Iran and pleasing certain mouthpiece in that area... Notice in his press conference in Israel he made a reference to Iran not being a danger to Israel but to the whole world...(allegedly after signing a $110bn with saudi arabia) Something that Bibi pathetically failed to emphasise and has affected his popularity miserably. The thing that is very hypocritical is for America to let these savage wahhabi sunni groups to show their military muscles through these deals but if Iran exercises the right to carry out military exercises for her defense in the region then it is subject to criticism and scrutiny...It is these short sighted policies blinded by arms deals that breeds more extremism and religious and sectarian violence and inevitably forms of terrorism by wahabism ideology across Europe and elsewhere.

Well, I don't compare Hillary and Bill with Ivanka, so if Ivanka turns out to be corrupt as the Clintons surely are, then it will not be awesome. If she puts the money - all of it towards helping women, then that will be awesome. At this point, you'd have to be totally bias to already be against her. Also, I don't think Ivanka needs to bilk people out of money.

John Cleese - London is no longer a British city.

WII ? That was another great gift from Canada's British empire....after WWI. And you wonder why Trump and the U.S. will do things the American way instead ? Build bridges...then bomb them !

Yes this is your type to build walls and burn bridges. I thought that was over after WII. Seriously If I had known that you are an extremist I would have never started a debate with you at the first place.

Yes you sign a pack with the devil if it serves your interest. your nature is very clear. Devil worshipers claim that if you join them you may live forever. You may wish to check that out too.

Just clarify your position. Are you saying that Saudi Regime and its Sheikdom are good guys so Trump was right to praise them or are you saying that American just signed a pack with the devil and you defend this pack? What exactly is your position?

Actually, McDonald's Corp. is doing just fine in Vietnam.

CNN is not mine....but I hear it (and MSNBC) are very popular in Canada. President Trump won the election despite CNN's screw ups.

Iran wins in long term just like Vietnam nation did. Americans are bunch of cowardly soldiers who fight for paychecks at the end of the month. Iranians are the 2500 years nation who survived barbaric invasions by Arabs and Moguls who were much more violent than Americans and got back their independence and homeland in long run by forcefully driving out the invaders.

From CNN There is the path of dictators -- like Egypt's autocratic Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, the blinkered and aging royal family of Saudi Arabia, and the corrupt and helpless rulers of Iraq -- all Sunnis. By contrast, there is the young and desperately eager majority of Iranians, all Shiites, seeking to drag their nation out from under the yoke of a medieval clerical oppression. The Trump administration, - in sharp contrast to anything provided his predecessor, Barack Obama -- may be taking the wrong road. Read the rest for yourself if interested: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/opinions/trump-iran-middle-east-andleman-opinion/

President Trump should bomb them anyway. Make them love Americans so much more. Worked great on Japan and Germany. Your obsession with asses is so noted, but I don't think it matters in this case. President Trump's bombs don't care either.

Btw this post shows how politically novice and immature you are. Bombing Tehran achieves nothing but to bring about a fiercely anti-US and anti-western hardline government in Iran. It will not bring a regime change but a much stronger regime who will use all its resources to attack US and western targets all over the world. Hardliners in Iran would love bombing Tehran as they will get back the government they lost through ballet boxes by force and can justify it too easy by citing national security as the reason and the US and entire western world including Israel as well as poor Iranian people will pay a very heavy price for that for decades to come.

Without the constitutional monarch, a dictatorial-minded PM could possibly dismiss the Governor General and refuse to call an election, on some pretext such as an invented national emergency or the threat of separatism. With the monarchy, that would be very difficult to pull off because the RCMP and Armed Forces have sworn allegiance to the Queen, not to an appointed figurehead in Ottawa. They would be able to arrest a would-be dictator who tries to set up a totalitarian system. I would be very suspicious of a politician who is not supportive of our constitutional monarchy.

Poor Islam: the victim yet again...one of the biggest reasons it is despised outside the raw violence it creates.

Deny it all you like. There are reasons Islam gets the attention it does. And they generally aren't good reasons.

As mentioned, your preferred cult is a big pill everybody has to swallow. It insists everybody participate in one fashion or another...cough...Infidel...cough.

Aw shucks, he wore a t-shirt. So we weren't treated to seeing his nipples or his biceps.

By you? Send that check...