mikedavid00 Posted October 1, 2007 Report Posted October 1, 2007 We are all descendants of illiterate savages too. That doesn't mean I want to live among illiterate savages. Hehe.. using that pathetic chicken/egg argument, we're all of the same sex. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
iForgot Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) That is so true. Wow word for word. Girls call it 'a bad muslim experience' because there are so many Mulsims in the Ottawa/Montreal area chasing Canadian women. Here in the GTA, they don't bother becuase white women are pretty much a minority group now and the Muslims heavily ghettoise and segregate to their own here. Also the women of any ethnicity consider white girls whores and easy. I cant count the time i've been told this. Especially from Sikh's. I will say from personal experience and observation that there is some truth to that. Below is what i've noticed. Visible minority women (including those born here) do not believe in love. They believe in self gain and will use a man to get her and her family that. White women of the western world (Russia for example, not included) believe in love. They fall in love with someone and don't marry for self gain. The down fall is that they can fall in love so deep and fast that they can be a nieve about it. But none the less they do believe in love. Her parents will also unconditionally accept you and love you too. The ethnic family will judge you net worth in dollars and see if they pennies add up their liking. They will also want you to be of the same race. If not, they will diss-own their own daughter. Ethnic parents don't understand how it is to pass love to a child. The children are treated as cattle. Farm cattle. The children only used to benefit the parents. And so the cycle continues. (of course this is a comlex subject and these are just my personal observations. Ther's many exceptions, but those are my exception. Ethnic women certainly do sleep around also. Many of us can attest to that first hand. Ethnic women also tend to have many annoying sexual hang-ups. I don't really know why they just do. Again more personal observations. So they should think twice before calling white girls 'whores' and such and maybe look in the mirror and see the serious downfalls that they have.). You are such an ignorant prick.... Fuck. Edited February 20, 2008 by iForgot Quote
Leafless Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 You are such an ignorant prick.... Fuck. Maybe you can explain why you think he is so uninformed or uneducated??? Quote
weaponeer Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) The Coast Salish Indigenous Action Movement supports the Indo-Canadian call for VANOC to fire Bruce Allen from the Olympic Committee. **** "Activist calls for Bruce Allen's removal from Olympics committee" HERE HE GOES AGAIN! Bruce Allen on the Rant Again! See Raven's Eye article at the end of Globe and Mail article. Way back in 2000 I organized a rally against CFOX Radio and Bruce Allen which hit all the papers and tv media. One day, on his show, he noted that there was talk about a proposed roadblock by First Nations individuals in Vernon. He began his rant and although this particular show wasn't a call in.. he fielded calls. He enjoyed his conversations with the racist callers but degraded, hung up on and made fun of those who supported First Nations issues. I tried to call in but it was too too busy. I called in to the office to share my concern and requested an apology to our people from Bruce Allen or we would take action. No call was forthcoming and the station had decided no action was to be taken against their staff, that no actual wrong-doing had taken place. I called our people, faxed, posted posters. We organized a rally outside of CFOX and organized a rally against media racism outside of the Bayshore Inn where a Human Rights Conference was being held. Bruce Allen was suspended for a bit and yah.. it was good enough at the time. Those who know how to do archival searches can find Van Prov and Sun articles and photos. At the end of that year the story ended up being one of the Province's headlines of the year! Manager's radio remarks spark storm of outrage ROD MICKLEBURGH From Saturday's Globe and Mail September 22, 2007 at 1:04 AM EDT VANCOUVER — Bruce Allen, the veteran, outspoken manager of many Canadian music stars including Michael Bublé and Bryan Adams, is facing calls for his removal from the 2010 Winter Olympics' creative team over controversial remarks he made about immigrants. In one of his regular commentaries on radio station CKNW, Mr. Allen charged last week that Canada is being pilloried by "special-interest groups" who want special rules for themselves. He mentioned "turban-wearing Mounties," those who complain about having to wear motorcycle helmets over their turbans, and the controversy over whether veiled women should be allowed to vote. "If you choose to come to a place like Canada, then shut up and fit in," Mr. Allen declared, adding that demands from special-interest groups are easy to solve. "There is the door. If you don't like the rules, hit it. We don't need you here. You have another place to go. It's called home. See ya." Mr. Allen's comments evoked a storm of outrage within the Indo-Canadian community. Punjabi radio hot-line shows have been deluged by angry callers demanding some kind of action be taken against Mr. Allen. At least one complaint has been lodged with the CRTC. ... http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.h...e55&k=45653 If he is just doing it for 'dramatic effect' for his radio show, then he would be willing to apologize. The guy is a jerk and should not be on the Olympic organizing committee. What kind of role model is that for kids? Could not agree more. This is Canada, fit in or go back to where you came from. That is not racism, it is fact. We are always bending over to accommodate people; we never have the balls to say NO!! We are always caving in to this weak kneed liberal crap about how we have to be tolerant, accommodating. I say NO!! Canada is an awesome country, and I welcome all people, but this is Canada, and you become Canadian or you leave!!! Edited February 20, 2008 by weaponeer Quote
eyeball Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Could not agree more. This is Canada, fit in or go back to where you came from. That is not racism, it is fact. We are always bending over to accommodate people; we never have the balls to say NO!! We are always caving in to this weak kneed liberal crap about how we have to be tolerant, accommodating. I say NO!! Canada is an awesome country, and I welcome all people, but this is Canada, and you become Canadian or you leave!!! Its amazing how little all this stuff means when you're from Earth. You should take a visit some day. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
M.Dancer Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Its amazing how little all this stuff means when you're from Earth. You should take a visit some day. Perhaps you should tell us what's it like to return home after being away for awhile.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Army Guy Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 This topic seems to have split into those that seem to think "the way ahead is change, to become one new melting pot of new immigrants, to absorb these changes into a new Canada" and then there are those that fell threaten to loose what little Canadian identity we have left.... But is is so bad to have pride in the present Canada of today, or yester year....Do we need to change to forge into the future and if so where do we draw the line....when do we say ok i'm not wearing that pink robe and handing out flowers.... No one has really made a case one way or the other.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
iForgot Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) Maybe you can explain why you think he is so uninformed or uneducated??? "Ethnic parents don't understand how it is to pass love to a child." Are you kidding me? How is this not the most inane thing to say? He obviously hates Sikhs and is using a couple examples here to denounce all ethnics. Since Asians, Blacks, Latinos, Sikhs and Muslims are all so alike, right mikedavid? I could easily argue that certain Indians and Asians love their children more than most Whites. Why do you think they live with their parents longer and Whites are dying to move out once they hit 18? It was a horrible thing to say but judging by most of this guys posts, I shouldn't be so surprised. Edited February 20, 2008 by iForgot Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 ROD MICKLEBURGHFrom Saturday's Globe and Mail September 22, 2007 at 1:04 AM EDT VANCOUVER — Bruce Allen, the veteran, outspoken manager of many Canadian music stars including Michael Bublé and Bryan Adams, is facing calls for his removal from the 2010 Winter Olympics' creative team over controversial remarks he made about immigrants. In one of his regular commentaries on radio station CKNW, Mr. Allen charged last week that Canada is being pilloried by "special-interest groups" who want special rules for themselves. He mentioned "turban-wearing Mounties," those who complain about having to wear motorcycle helmets over their turbans, and the controversy over whether veiled women should be allowed to vote. "If you choose to come to a place like Canada, then shut up and fit in," Mr. Allen declared, adding that demands from special-interest groups are easy to solve. "There is the door. If you don't like the rules, hit it. We don't need you here. You have another place to go. It's called home. See ya." Mr. Allen's comments evoked a storm of outrage within the Indo-Canadian community. Punjabi radio hot-line shows have been deluged by angry callers demanding some kind of action be taken against Mr. Allen. At least one complaint has been lodged with the CRTC. ... http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.h...e55&k=45653 If he is just doing it for 'dramatic effect' for his radio show, then he would be willing to apologize. The guy is a jerk and should not be on the Olympic organizing committee. What kind of role model is that for kids? Can you please point out - as per the above - what exactly is wrong with any of what is quoted above? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 The everyday Mountie uniform does not include the dress reds and wide brimmed hat. The dress they use is hardly indistinguishable from the regular cops that can be nearby.If Gucci is a religious aspect.................... Did I hear it right - that someone may be fired from the olympic committee? What about firing that huge brute called China and snubbing that massive slave labour camp? Having done my mini-rant - I say if you are going to adopt a nation and the nation is going to adopt you - then one should wear the clothes that your parents layed out for you - to have another culture dictate what and how and where is like having a child take over the family bank account and car...shut up and fit in..that's called polite adaptablity! The house guest is not in control - the head of the house dictates and that head is Canada. Quote
guyser Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 The house guest is not in control - the head of the house dictates and that head is Canada. Shut up and fit in ,( but first pay your taxes and other societal debts there are.) See, if one comes to Hotel Canada , and pays for a room, then they are free to ask for whatever they want. They are therefore not "guests" but paying customers. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Shut up and fit in ,( but first pay your taxes and other societal debts there are.)See, if one comes to Hotel Canada , and pays for a room, then they are free to ask for whatever they want. They are therefore not "guests" but paying customers. So let me get this right. YOU believe that Canada is your own private enterprise and you rent to immigrants via bank mortgages? As far as say income tax - who do you think absorbs this money after it goes into the system? Not the average person..it goes off as a tribute or protection money to a stinky dark and hidden elite - sales tax is enough to sustain the system - besides - Malroney admited to not paying tax on the brown evelope cash - which is fine - everyone knows that those on Malroney's level does not pay tax - because when they do pay tax - they get a tax deduction - which in reality is not giving money by taking it..much like that class giving to charity and recieving a kick back in the form of a tax credit - so what they do is actually take from the poor and pretend they are giving. I pay tax - and it's preturbing that some don't...which makes me a surf to those that steal and act so damn repectable...Canada belongs to me - and you - not the rest of the world..we are no a nation with isles like a huge Walmart - still pissed off at the selling of farmland to China...what the hell is that? Why don't the creeps who cut these deals and sell the nation from under our asses - just go away - they can't take IT with them - but - these elite have the attitude that when they go they will take as many of US with them through damaging our health by their crazed and greed driven behaviour - Canada is my nation..my territory - I was here first and others have to get in line - Have you ever notice that Asian immigrants culturally do not have the concept of standing in line and waitin their turn? They test and play the person by sizing them up to see if they are good natured and THEN THEY BUTT IN ...as if you were some goof. Quote
Argus Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Nothing he said was out of line, and most Canadians would pretty much agree with him. Of course, the lefties, most of whom have little support for freedom of speech (except theirs) and the (usually government funded) racial and ethnic groups will sputter in outrage. And both will demand he be punished in some way, fired, imprisoned, executed, whatever they think they can get away with. But that's pretty typical of that sort. One of the problems I have with Canada letting in so many immigrants is that most come from backward cultures which have no real concept of freedom of speech. They don't understand it, and, like the Lefties, they only respect it when it's speech they approve of. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
guyser Posted February 21, 2008 Report Posted February 21, 2008 So let me get this right. You didnt. Quote
eyeball Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 Nothing he said was out of line, and most Canadians would pretty much agree with him. Of course, the lefties, most of whom have little support for freedom of speech (except theirs) and the (usually government funded) racial and ethnic groups will sputter in outrage. And both will demand he be punished in some way, fired, imprisoned, executed, whatever they think they can get away with. But that's pretty typical of that sort. One of the problems I have with Canada letting in so many immigrants is that most come from backward cultures which have no real concept of freedom of speech. They don't understand it, and, like the Lefties, they only respect it when it's speech they approve of. I suppose you could always screen immigrants and only let in the right-wingers. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
sharkman Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 I suppose you could always screen immigrants and only let in the right-wingers. Wow, that's heady stuff, suggesting the actual screening of immigrants. Maybe one day Canada will start turning away criminals and other illegals! Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 Could not agree more. This is Canada, fit in or go back to where you came from. That is not racism, it is fact. We are always bending over to accommodate people; we never have the balls to say NO!! We are always caving in to this weak kneed liberal crap about how we have to be tolerant, accommodating. I say NO!! Canada is an awesome country, and I welcome all people, but this is Canada, and you become Canadian or you leave!!! How about those who are born here in Canada and refuse to embrace white culture ....where are you gonna send them ? Everyone regardless of language, religion, skin colour is equal in this land called Canada (once they have citizenship). Get off your high horse. Why is the onus on minorities to conform to your world view of trailer parks and Paris Hilton ? Why not the other way around? Afterall we are all equal. Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 Wow, that's heady stuff, suggesting the actual screening of immigrants. Maybe one day Canada will start turning away criminals and other illegals! How did Robert Pickton fall through the cracks? Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 You can't even read.The question was, "what is Canadianism" and I answered it. Obviously you are one of the cultural rednecks who simply won't 'shut up and fit in' All people who are citizens are equal under the law according to the constitution of this country. It doesn't matter if you're ancestors were the first whites to land here or you came here 3 years ago from India and just got citizenship last week. EVeryone has the same rights protected under the `Charter of Rights and Freedoms'. This is not hicktown, texas. This is Canada. Multiculturalism is official government policy. Canada has 2 official languages. According to the law of the land, no one has to learn English or conform to white culture unless they want to. If Canadians who have immigrated here or their children & grandchildren who are born here wish to keep their culture and religion, they are free to do so. That is guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. If you have a problem with that, please feel free to goto the Supreme Court of Canada to fight it. Good Luck and Best Wishes ! Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 When I was a kid and we had to draw pictures for Rememberance Day, nearly everyone drew a cross on a mound with a poppy sort of thing. And the words lest we forget. If some kid draws a picture of Mohammed over in Arabian school do you get your panties in a knot? Sikhs played a prominant role in the Indian army from independence in 1947 to about the 1980s. Sikhs were at the forefront of the British army along with Pasthuns (Afghans) and Gurkhas during British rule of India. During the time of the Sepoy Mutiny it was Sikhs who the British could trust. The British did not require Sikhs to change their religion. They allowed them to wear turbans since they were putting their lives on the line for Britain. If the British didn't have a problem with turbans then why do these redneck 'Reform Party' members? Sikhs have already fought for the British in WWI and WWII when the British ruled India. Sikhs fought to liberate Europe and also later on in WWII in Burma to stop the Japanese. Ignore all of that if you like.: http://www.sikhs.nl/worldwar2.htm http://www.allaboutsikhs.com/index.php?opt...view&id=781 Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 But Canadian law does not forbid people from wearing turbans or yarmulkes or saris or kimonos. However when you work at Wal Mart you dont wear a Sari or Kimono, do you. You can't wear your baseball cap either. Or your favourite hockey team tshirt. You wear the smock. When work is done, you can change back into the kimono, the sari, or the t-shirt. Or you can find a job where they allow you to wear a kimono, etc. Do you see the distinction there, M Dancer. The rules here are not overly demanding. No one is saying turbans are not allowed. But when you are an RCMP you ought to wear the uniform that everyone else must wear. That is not unfair. It is what everyone else must wear on the job. And when work is done, you can change into your normal clothes just like Canadians of all ethnicities do. Simple as that, whether its a tshirt that says Molson Canadian or a Burqa. They have more freedom here than they probably did back there (wherever that is), so there is nothing to complain about. Wearing a turban is a requirement for practicing Sikhs. The RCMP or any other employer forcing a Sikh to remove the turban is the same as denying someone the freedom to practice their religion which is guaranteed under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Sikhism is the 5th largest religion in the world with more followers then Judaism: http://www.sikhs.org/religion.htm The issue of Turbans in the RCMP was settled by the Supreme Court of Canada in favour of Sikhs. Read it and weep: http://www.nriinternet.com/NRI_police/Cana...illon/index.htm Monday, October 13, 2003lightning rod for the visceral battles fought by Sikh-Canadians to define, in essence, the freedoms associated with being a Canadian, was the turban issue in the RCMP. Baltej Singh Dhillon (Centennial Award recipient in 1999), a Sikh raised in Malaysia, was denied entry into the RCMP because of his refusal to remove his turban. Politicians vacillated over the issue. Legionnaires and sundry other "outraged Canadians" rallied to the flag to have the "hat" removed and to preserve the tradition of the Stetson hat-wearing RCMP officer so romanticized by Hollywood.(All this notwithstanding the fact that the uniform code had been changed to accommodate women RCMP officers and that the then RCMP Commissioner supported the wearing of the turban.) Baltej Singh Dhillon stands over six-feet tall but for over 300,000 Sikhs in Canada, he is much taller. Not only is his name synonymous to a crusader -- who fought for the right of Sikhs to wear turban in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 1988, he is a RCMP officer and a perfect gentleman. Born in 1966 in Malaysia, Baltej is a happily married man, who believes in family values. This proud Sikh, a true warrior, came out victorious in 1990 -- unscathed despite a death threat by his opponents, when he won his first ideological battle that started way back in 1988. There were a stream of protests that included over 195,000 Canadians signing petitions against Mounties wearing turbans. Baltej's opponents even filed a petition defending their case in the Supreme Court of Canada. The Sikh in shining armor continues to inspire thousands of Sikh youth aspiring to join the RCMP. Dhillon is presently an officer in a RCMP detachment in Surrey, B.C. He works as an investigator with the task force probing the 1985 bombing of the Air India aeroplane, in which over 300 people aboard died. Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 She's single too... the reason is because she refuses to marry a non-sikh despite the fact she can barely speak her own language. So she just turns down men due to their skin colour. Freedom of choice. How is that any different from `Reform Party` whites who only talk to and marry only other whites? Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 -Introduction of Shariah law in Ont. and Quebec. -The talking of putting foot basins to accomidate muslims so they can wash their feet before they pray. -And finally, the most serious, publically funded, completlely segregated relgious schools Catholic Schools ????? Quote
Sindhu Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 http://www.voiceonline.com/voice/thisweek/voicemirror.php VOICE MIRROR #1. TURBANS AND MOTORCYCLES: BIGOTS IN ONTARIO SHOULD STOP HARASSING SIKHS Why don't the bigots in Ontario's establishment give up their racist objections to Sikhs sporting turbans on motorcycles? After all, these turbaned Sikhs fought in the two world wars against fascism sporting those turbans! India and Britain as well as B.C. and Manitoba allow Sikhs to wear their turbans on motorcycles. The Globe and Mail reported on Friday that Baljinder Badesha of Ontario actually drove at 110 km per hour for Ontario Human Rights Commission to prove to the government lawyers that the turban doesn't unravel at that high speed. That would actually have been unnecessary if the Crown hadn't goofed up - perhaps their racism had blinded them! For the Crown had to admit that their engineer had subjected the turban on an imitation head to winds of 300 km per hour. How stupid can these bigots get! And to those ignoramuses who argue that insurance costs would go up because of head injuries (what about costs because of smoking and eating junk food?), lawyers pointed out that a study they had done concluded that the increase in serious injuries would be between .43 and 2.83 Sikh riders a year if you assumed that half of all Sikh motorcyclists wear turbans. The medical treatment for traumatic brain injuries would go up from $151,700,000 to $151,834,685 - a .00005-per-cent overall increase in the province's annual health-care budget. Go figure! Quote
Dog Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 You must wear a helmet to take the motocycle licence test so Mr Badesha obviously did take off his turban at that time . It would seem Mr Badesha religious objections to helmets are some what of a recent epiphany Quote
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