new american empire death throws

[Drea]

It is not all about who has the bigger penis Scottsa.

And what is the darkly lurking psychological stimulous that brings to your mind penises in a thread about the US? I've heard of penis envy before...but...

Whoa! First Kuzadd spouting off about her husband....now Drea dreaming about a bigger penis? What's going on?

I think these two are giving us a strong hint. They want the board to have a spot for sex and relationship.

Betsy, the world is NOT about WHO has a bigger penis (meaning bigger war machinery, a bigger bat to hit folks with, a bigger stick, a bigger stink... get it?... I was not REALLY talking about ACTUAL penises...)

I don't envy penises -- I have one at home that I can have anytime I want

And you only slam us posters who don't agree with you because you KNOW full well that the USA is the biggest bully on the planet and is hated by a good percentage of the people on earth.

You CANNOT dispute this so you resort to insults.

That's ok, you are forgiven.

Edited July 26, 2007 by Drea

[betsy]

It is not all about who has the bigger penis Scottsa.

And what is the darkly lurking psychological stimulous that brings to your mind penises in a thread about the US? I've heard of penis envy before...but...

Whoa! First Kuzadd spouting off about her husband....now Drea dreaming about a bigger penis? What's going on?

I think these two are giving us a strong hint. They want the board to have a spot for sex and relationship.

Betsy, the world is NOT about WHO has a bigger penis (meaning bigger war machinery, a bigger bat to hit folks with, a bigger stick, a bigger stink... get it?... I was not REALLY talking about ACTUAL penises...)

I don't envy penises -- I have one at home that I can have anytime I want

Nya-ha-ha I got your goaaaat. Just teasing you Drea.

[GostHacked]

Betsy

But then again I know a lot of ex-presidents and ex-vice presidents who end up in the selling business...with lucrative incentives, of course.

No matter what politician you are paying attention to, they are ALL trying to sell something. How many books have come out that shows how good the US is, and now on track they are for the future?

So what do you think? Especially in this current society where practically everyone is writing a book!

Again everyone wants to sell you something. Anything. Maybe Bush Jr should write a couple books so he can sell his ideas..... no one seems to be buying his spoken words anymore.

[ScottSA]

No matter what politician you are paying attention to, they are ALL trying to sell something.

Not really, and not to the extent that Gore is. Not even Clinton is so shamelessly and hypocritically selling snakeoil off the back of a wagon like Gore is. Promoting a book is one thing, but Gore has an entire travelling circus in high gear.

[GostHacked]

No matter what politician you are paying attention to, they are ALL trying to sell something.

Not really, and not to the extent that Gore is. Not even Clinton is so shamelessly and hypocritically selling snakeoil off the back of a wagon like Gore is. Promoting a book is one thing, but Gore has an entire travelling circus in high gear.

Must have been using the same circus Bush used in the months before the Iraq invasion.

[ScottSA]

No matter what politician you are paying attention to, they are ALL trying to sell something.

Not really, and not to the extent that Gore is. Not even Clinton is so shamelessly and hypocritically selling snakeoil off the back of a wagon like Gore is. Promoting a book is one thing, but Gore has an entire travelling circus in high gear.

Must have been using the same circus Bush used in the months before the Iraq invasion.

Excuse me? You compare a sitting president talking to the nation about foreign policy to the profitmaking schemes of an ex vice president drumming up speaking fees and book sales?

[White Doors]

He also has a significant interest in one of these 'carbon credit' companies.

he's trying to bilk all thjose limosine liberals.

Lots of money to be made on white man guilt.

[daniel]

...You compare a sitting president talking to the nation about foreign policy to the profitmaking schemes of an ex vice president drumming up speaking fees and book sales?

A sitting president with his own profitmaking schemes and self-interests dressed as foreign policy is by far more dangerous.

[ScottSA]

...You compare a sitting president talking to the nation about foreign policy to the profitmaking schemes of an ex vice president drumming up speaking fees and book sales?

A sitting president with his own profitmaking schemes and self-interests dressed as foreign policy is by far more dangerous.

Please do elaborate.

[GostHacked]

No matter what politician you are paying attention to, they are ALL trying to sell something.

Not really, and not to the extent that Gore is. Not even Clinton is so shamelessly and hypocritically selling snakeoil off the back of a wagon like Gore is. Promoting a book is one thing, but Gore has an entire travelling circus in high gear.

Must have been using the same circus Bush used in the months before the Iraq invasion.

Excuse me? You compare a sitting president talking to the nation about foreign policy to the profitmaking schemes of an ex vice president drumming up speaking fees and book sales?

Yes, indeed, for the simple fact they want to sell the public something, for some kind of gain. Ex presidents write books to make money. This current president sold you a lie of a war, and you bought it. I'd demand my money back for the product is just not safe for anyone. How much money is wasted on the idea of this war on terror??

A book is sold to the people, the foriegn policy is sold to the people, and to other nations. Who is buying though?? It is all about the sell, no matter HOW you sell it, and what position you are in. Bush has to be a salesman in order to be a President, he sold the Iraq War to the American population at ... oh shit,... what is the cost of this war now?? But the only thing is, I do not know where those profits are going. Hell, the Bush Administration even admits they don't know where some money went, neither do the Iraqi's.

So you see it is the same. Sell, sell, sell. You can sell a book well, if the ideas are popular and the information is good and interesting. This book called the War on Terror, that Bush is trying to sell, keeps needing reediting before it even hits the shelves. Even after it hits the shevles, there has been at least 5 major revisions to this idea that Bush wants to sell to you.

War sells, but who is buying?

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes, indeed, for the simple fact they want to sell the public something, for some kind of gain. Ex presidents write books to make money. This current president sold you a lie of a war, and you bought it. I'd demand my money back for the product is just not safe for anyone. How much money is wasted on the idea of this war on terror??

None of it is "wasted", unless you have a competing idea and identical sales job to waste it on. Clinton sold us on Kosovo, and Bush Sr. sold us on Kuwait (much tougher sales job). The current president and his party have prevailed politically, so he gets to call the shots. Whiners should win elections and pick their own money "wasting" projects...you know..like they did in Canada with the Gun Registry.

America does quite well with wars and economic growth, as does Canada, reaping the economic gains like remoras circling a big shark.

[GostHacked]

Yes, indeed, for the simple fact they want to sell the public something, for some kind of gain. Ex presidents write books to make money. This current president sold you a lie of a war, and you bought it. I'd demand my money back for the product is just not safe for anyone. How much money is wasted on the idea of this war on terror??

None of it is "wasted", unless you have a competing idea and identical sales job to waste it on. Clinton sold us on Kosovo, and Bush Sr. sold us on Kuwait (much tougher sales job). The current president and his party have prevailed politically, so he gets to call the shots. Whiners should win elections and pick their own money "wasting" projects...you know..like they did in Canada with the Gun Registry.

Ahh, yes the Canadian expert. Again, I agree with you, government waste is rampant everywhere. We were sold the Gun Registry, and now we find out that we paid too much for it. Whoever was selling this idea, was a great salesman, for the end product is definately what we thought we were paying for.

War on Terror, a few years and 100 million dollars??? SOLD !!!!! This war on terror has costs that put the Gun Registry/Sponsorship Scandal, and every other Canadian money government money scheme combined for the last 20 years. Even if you proportion it, there is so much more waste.. and yes it is waste, of money on this war on terror. Contract is not on time, and WAY over budget. I am sure the investors are happy about that. They are the ones making the cash, I guess.

So again, it is about the selling of the idea for some kind of profit. Profit does not mean only a monetary profit, there are other profits besides money.

America does quite well with wars and economic growth, as does Canada, reaping the economic gains like remoras circling a big shark.

The United States is doing well financialy during this war on terror, however we should look at the so called 'progress' in Iraq and Afghanistan to show you how well your money is being spent. Feel like a fool? Cause someone managed to part you from the money. So progress in one area, means that someone is getting screwed in another. Cannot deny that this is how it works today.

When the US is done screwing the other countries and areas out of money and natural resources, there is nothing left. Poverty, hate, and more terrorism. For now the US's current strategy is working. So again, once we read the fine print on anything that is sold to us, you will discover all the 'clauses, exeptions, lack or warranty and service can be read, and you will know right away that the verbal pitch just does not quite reflect the written agreement.

Bush may go down as the best salesman ever. But have you ever seen those shadey vaccuum salesman?? They want to dirty your home to prove to you that they can clean it. Is this the approach the Bush admin is taking?? Make everything dirty and broken, just to show you he can fix it all?? I guess he is still in the 'dirty/break' stage.

Anyone with some intelligence can spot these shiesters before they even knock on the door.

[betsy]

Betsy

But then again I know a lot of ex-presidents and ex-vice presidents who end up in the selling business...with lucrative incentives, of course.

No matter what politician you are paying attention to, they are ALL trying to sell something. How many books have come out that shows how good the US is, and now on track they are for the future?

So what do you think? Especially in this current society where practically everyone is writing a book!

Again everyone wants to sell you something. Anything. Maybe Bush Jr should write a couple books so he can sell his ideas..... no one seems to be buying his spoken words anymore.

That's what I mean! These authors may not be presidents, but they do milk their "expertise" at the subject for all its worth! Not that there's anything wrong with that...I mean it's the law of supply and demand!

Especially when some of these authors are known liberals or socialists etcc..., well it's a dream job! They get paid for the work plus they get their jollies!

That's why I'm telling Kuzadd there's really nothing new about all these type of anti-Americanism books coming out now.

People like Kuzadd are only too willing to lap them all up....I guess in anticipation of the possibility that anyone of these Doom-to-the-USA theories become a reality!

Edited July 26, 2007 by betsy

[daniel]

... The current president and his party have prevailed politically, so he gets to call the shots. ...America does quite well with wars and economic growth, as does Canada, reaping the economic gains like remoras circling a big shark.

Notwithstanding the events of the past six years, of course.

[Guest American Woman]

All empires collapse eventually:

wow,really!!!

apparently some don't understand that bit o' history

Wow, Really??? Who?

[bush_cheney2004]

War on Terror, a few years and 100 million dollars??? SOLD !!!!! This war on terror has costs that put the Gun Registry/Sponsorship Scandal, and every other Canadian money government money scheme combined for the last 20 years. Even if you proportion it, there is so much more waste.. and yes it is waste, of money on this war on terror. Contract is not on time, and WAY over budget. I am sure the investors are happy about that. They are the ones making the cash, I guess.

There is no comparison...Canada has less economic output than the single state of California. If it is ours to waste, then we shall waste it....in ways and to a scale that befits an arrogant superpower. How do you think we got this way?

The United States is doing well financialy during this war on terror, however we should look at the so called 'progress' in Iraq and Afghanistan to show you how well your money is being spent. Feel like a fool? Cause someone managed to part you from the money. So progress in one area, means that someone is getting screwed in another. Cannot deny that this is how it works today.

We would have just pissed it away on something else...perhaps a Gun Registry!

When the US is done screwing the other countries and areas out of money and natural resources, there is nothing left. Poverty, hate, and more terrorism. For now the US's current strategy is working. So again, once we read the fine print on anything that is sold to us, you will discover all the 'clauses, exeptions, lack or warranty and service can be read, and you will know right away that the verbal pitch just does not quite reflect the written agreement.

Bush may go down as the best salesman ever.

Nah....President Bush is a lousy salesman. Still, he did as well as Clinton at getting Canadians to engage the enemy and kill them with NATO noogies.

[Drea]

If it is ours to waste, then we shall waste it....in ways and to a scale that befits an arrogant superpower. How do you think we got this way?

THIS...is exactly the "type" of American that is despised across the world.

What you don't understand B-C, is that this arrogant military spending spree is coming at a great cost to America and by extension the whole world.

The American economy accounts for 5% of the world's spending (I believe) so America's economic collapse will not go unnoticed.

The world has a vested interest in what happens in America. That's why people are so pissed about how America has degenerated.

And in your arrogance you pronounce "We'll do whatever we want even if it kills us!"

Edited July 27, 2007 by Drea

[capricorn]

Every country has the right to self-determination. Military spending, social programs, health care, education, nuclear program, foreign aid, free trade, gun control, drug war, border security, jihad, Israeli eradication, civil war, genocide, insurgency, suicide bombings...etc. Pick your priority.

[ScottSA]

If it is ours to waste, then we shall waste it....in ways and to a scale that befits an arrogant superpower. How do you think we got this way?

THIS...is exactly the "type" of American that is despised across the world.

And in your arrogance you pronounce "We'll do whatever we want even if it kills us!"

And in your envy you scream "we'll hate you no matter what you do!"

Edited July 27, 2007 by ScottSA

[kuzadd]

Kuzadd, you can't get enough of these books....just like I can't get enough of the game Valkyrie Profile. I can't wait for the next installment.

I understand why you obssess so over me,as well read as I am!

But puhleez, you ASSUME wrongly , these (US Empire collapse)are the only books I read.

why?

so you THINK, you can demonize me

BUT, per usual, you THINK in an incorrect manner.

The only thing you accomplish is to make yourself, look like an assumptive fool!

Right now I am reading a book on media.

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Believe-Lies-Be...s/dp/1932857060

Don't Believe It!: How Lies Become News (Paperback)

I was going to read a book by Dr.Helen Caldicott,

The New Nuclear Danger

but I put it off, to read the above book

I previously just finished a book on Terrorism in Italy

prior to that a book on the 7/7 bombings (Britian)

I don't play 'games', waste of my very precious time.

Therefore I am unaware of this "the game Valkyrie Profile"

please don't explain, I am completely uninterested!

PLEASE KEEP OBSSESSING ON ME, IT FEEDS MY EGO.

Wanna know what I am wearing today??

What I had for brekky??

Edited July 27, 2007 by kuzadd

[bush_cheney2004]

THIS...is exactly the "type" of American that is despised across the world.

What you don't understand B-C, is that this arrogant military spending spree is coming at a great cost to America and by extension the whole world.

The American economy accounts for 5% of the world's spending (I believe) so America's economic collapse will not go unnoticed.

The world has a vested interest in what happens in America. That's why people are so pissed about how America has degenerated.

And in your arrogance you pronounce "We'll do whatever we want even if it kills us!"

Correct....I revel in the arrogance....it's all good. Besides, why do you care? Haven't you heard? America is IRRELEVANT!

The world can pull its collective head out of a sanctimonious hole and clean up other problems before worrying about the United States.

[betsy]

Kuzadd, you can't get enough of these books....just like I can't get enough of the game Valkyrie Profile. I can't wait for the next installment.

I understand why you obssess so over me,as well read as I am!

But puhleez, you ASSUME wrongly , these (US Empire collapse)are the only books I read.

why?

so you THINK, you can demonize me

BUT, per usual, you THINK in an incorrect manner.

The only thing you accomplish is to make yourself, look like an assumptive fool!

Right now I am reading a book on media.

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Believe-Lies-Be...s/dp/1932857060

Don't Believe It!: How Lies Become News (Paperback)

I was going to read a book by Dr.Helen Caldicott,

The New Nuclear Danger

but I put it off, to read the above book

I previously just finished a book on Terrorism in Italy

prior to that a book on the 7/7 bombings (Britian)

I don't play 'games', waste of my very precious time.

Therefore I am unaware of this "the game Valkyrie Profile"

please don't explain, I am completely uninterested!

PLEASE KEEP OBSSESSING ON ME, IT FEEDS MY EGO.

Wanna know what I am wearing today??

What I had for brekky??

Sounds like you're losing your cool. No one is demonizing you.

Of course I don't want to know your personal stuff...but I'm not surprised if you'll end up telling us anyway. Like you did about your physical attributes, temperament, and what seems to be like your husband's sufferings or great virtue of perseverance and forbearance (I'm just assuming from what you said about yourself)....I don't really know what you're really saying especially when it came from out of the blue, being out-of-topic at that. That's just the impression you gave me from your voluntary tirade. So do we really have a choice?

You know why I stated the quoted statement. How can you say it demonizes you?

It simply says that I do understand how you feel about these books (them being your special interest)...comparing to how I feel about mine. And I didn't say that you read ONLY those kinds of books....knowing that I, myself, do not limit my interest on this game alone.

How hard is that to understand?

I explained about it....in reply to your enumerations of all these books you've discovered and read.

Edited July 27, 2007 by betsy

[Drea]

The world can pull its collective head out of a sanctimonious hole and clean up other problems before worrying about the United States.

I may have said I despise America (in its current state) but I never said it was irrelevant -- on the contrary, when the elephant farts, the whole world smells it. (and man, that country be stinkin' now! LOL)

The USA (and citizens like yourself) are the ones who need to pull their heads out of the sanctimonious hole and clean up it's own problems at home instead of worrying about what everybody else does.

And Scottsa -- nobody envies a bully.

I live in Canada -- why on earth would I envy our big neighbour to the south? What does America have that Canada doesn't? Tropical storms?? (was the only thing I could think of LOL)

What does America have that I could possibly envy?

I feel pity for American citizens, not envy.

[guyser]

What does America have that I could possibly envy?

How about...

-a spirit of entrepeneurship unmatched anywhere?

-a generous spirit unmatched anywhere?

-a country that is "normally" the first to respond to any world crisis?

-a country thats, at least half of it is, warm for the whole year?

-a country that in a moments notice would help Canada?

And a whole lot more.

Dont like the gov, fine, but the people are A 1. A pity you dont see it.

[betsy]

What does America have that I could possibly envy?

How about...

-a spirit of entrepeneurship unmatched anywhere?

This alone, is enough to make any business-minded Canadian go green with envy.

The USA gives real support and encouragement to its small businesses...whereas here, the government either monopolises and/or competes with, if not downright put some small businesses out of business!

The spirit of entreprenuership in Canada is luke-warm compared to the USA. Have you tried comparing a Canadian website and an American website (small business). The amount of substance information-wise they have, not to mention the competitive rates they offer?

Have you tried comparing the kind of service you get? The American business almost, always gives the better service!

Once we called a company only 20 minutes drive from us inquiring about the prices of some professional sound equipments. The guy said he'll have to check it out for us and will call back. We waited for 2 weeks with no call back. Finally, we just went on the web, got the information and follow-up calls and advice from the rep. In a little bit more than a week....we even received all the equipments that we ordered!

How many franchises from the USA still operates successfully here compared to Canadian franchises?

I don't know. Maybe because we're sort of like a socialist country....it does something to our frame of mind, our attitude. Remember when Russia got its democracy...only to find out that after so long under communism, a lot of them couldn't hack it? That's why we really can't compete with the spirit of American small businesses. Our creativity is stifled.

Edited July 27, 2007 by betsy