bloodyminded Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 So? What's the difference between kids in Afghanistan forced to fight and those in Africa? Why is there support and sympathy for African child soldiers and none for child soldiers in Afghanistan? Is it solely because these kids are fighting us? Yes. We like our moral stances to avoid any difficulty to us whatsoever. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
jbg Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 False. He was raised to be a filthy murdering terrorist. Just like pit bulls, the breed sometimes must be erradicated. Golden retrievers are a better example. They are far more dangerous than pit bulls. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
M.Dancer Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 Here's a quandry. Some here have called this court a kangaroo court. Now the word is that Lil Omar is making a plea bargain. So, why would a kangaroo court contemplaye a plea bargain? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shwa Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 And... the results are in: Omar Khadr pleads guilty This week a military jury will hear from witnesses that include Speer’s widow and injured American soldier Layne Morris, and recommend a sentence. The seven-member jury will not know the sentencing agreement of the plea deal.Under the military commission rules, Khadr will receive the lesser sentence. Morris said he was largely unemotional seeing Khadr for the first time in court Monday. Although he was sorry there would not be a trial, hearing Khadr’s plea Monday was a good “trade off.” “There is a definite amount of satisfaction to hear that man stand up and admit to everything.” So now... what? Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 And... the results are in: Omar Khadr pleads guilty So now... what? We find out what his sentence will be. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 http://www.calgaryherald.com/Clinton+lobbies+Canada+over+Khadr+plea/3716907/story.html Since it appears that Hillary Clinton personally phoned the Minister a few days ago, we can assume the fix is in... Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 http://www.calgaryherald.com/Clinton+lobbies+Canada+over+Khadr+plea/3716907/story.html Since it appears that Hillary Clinton personally phoned the Minister a few days ago, we can assume the fix is in... And the Americans get rid of a small thorn in the side. Quote
eyeball Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 Here's a quandry. Some here have called this court a kangaroo court. Now the word is that Lil Omar is making a plea bargain. So, why would a kangaroo court contemplaye a plea bargain? To avoid the spectacle of the Shining Beacon persecuting a child soldier. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 We find out what his sentence will be. I wonder when we'll find out how large his settlement will be? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
M.Dancer Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 I wonder when we'll find out how large his settlement will be? IN a few days. I suspect it will be the normal 6'x 10' Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 IN a few days. I suspect it will be the normal 6'x 10' I meant after he's been repatriated and rehabilitated. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 So? What's the difference between kids in Afghanistan forced to fight and those in Africa? Why is there support and sympathy for African child soldiers and none for child soldiers in Afghanistan? Is it solely because these kids are fighting us? If so, I was under the impression that our court systems sought justice, not revenge. The differences are in the agreements we signed, Omar is not a child soldier but considered a terrorist, and there is NOTHING in the current agreement we signed at the UN that covers terrorists....the UN clearly spells it out on what makes a soldier, and what is a terrorist.... As for justice give me a break....it is our justice system that our current ROE's are derived, and it clearly states these child terrorists can be engaged and killed when they take part in terrorist activities.....so our justice system say's it's alright to kill them, but we just have a problem with locking them up, or having them face a court for their actions....to sum up it's alright to kill them just not put them in a court of law....i get it....and from my side of the fence it's wrong.... To avoid the spectacle of the Shining Beacon persecuting a child soldier. Perhaps you can provide a link where it states you can not hold them accountable. Even the agreement we signed at the UN does not state we can not hold them accountable for what they have done.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 To avoid the spectacle of the Shining Beacon persecuting a child soldier. ...he's faired a lot better than Shidane Arone...and will live to tell about it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ToadBrother Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 I meant after he's been repatriated and rehabilitated. I'm sure he'll buy a ticket back to some Central Asian hellhole and try blowing up someone else. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 The differences are in the agreements we signed, Omar is not a child soldier but considered a terrorist, and there is NOTHING in the current agreement we signed at the UN that covers terrorists....the UN clearly spells it out on what makes a soldier, and what is a terrorist.... Terrorist to child: "Put on this bomb vest, take this rifle and go to that hill over there, and shoot some Americans." Child: "Wait, let me check first to see what agreements were signed..." Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 Terrorist to child: "Put on this bomb vest, take this rifle and go to that hill over there, and shoot some Americans." Child: "Wait, let me check first to see what agreements were signed..." At 15 were you still sucking a pacifier or what? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 I meant after he's been repatriated and rehabilitated. rehabilitated? Has he accepted Jesus? His chances of winning anything are between zero and less than zero. He is a confessed terrorist and murderer. The spurious claims of his mistreatment were thrown out of court. There is more than a chance he will be declared a dangerous offender than ever getting a dime of compensation.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
ToadBrother Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 At 15 were you still sucking a pacifier or what? And that's my problem with this. We're not talking about an eight year old. We're talking about someone that pretty much every court in the western world views as being fully competent to recognize the nature and consequences of his actions. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 At 15 were you still sucking a pacifier or what? At 15 I was beating up little old ladies for their pension money. How about you? When did your head get stuck up there? Or were you just born with that defect... Quote
eyeball Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 rehabilitated? Has he accepted Jesus? His chances of winning anything are between zero and less than zero. He is a confessed terrorist and murderer. The spurious claims of his mistreatment were thrown out of court. There is more than a chance he will be declared a dangerous offender than ever getting a dime of compensation.... What court was that, you mean the same kangaroo court that's so desperate to accept his plea? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ToadBrother Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 What court was that, you mean the same kangaroo court that's so desperate to accept his plea? I'm still confused by this view that Khadr is some sort of saint. He was fifteen, not five. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 So, why would a kangaroo court contemplaye a plea bargain? NBC News- Monday’s Guantanamo plea deal that averted the trial of Canadian “boy soldier” Omar Khadr came after an extraordinary last minute intervention by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton aimed at resolving a case that was becoming an embarrassment for the Obama administration. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39834263/ns/us_news-security/ Ask a silly qusetion Quote
jbg Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39834263/ns/us_news-security/ Ask a silly qusetion He was pledged to wage jihad, which means to kill as many Westerners as he could. Why a shred of mercy for him? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
capricorn Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 What court was that, you mean the same kangaroo court that's so desperate to accept his plea? My question is why did Khadr plead guilty to all charges if indeed he is innocent. A guilty plea smells like desperation and an admission of guilt. Desperate in the sense he wants to serve time in Canada in the hopes he will get out before serving his full sentence. He and his treacherous family know all the angles on how to play this country as a patsy. Count on Omar to be the model inmate simply to earn a discount on his sentence and then we'll see him reunite with his kind. Khadr loathes Canadian values and let loose he will act out the hatred he has for this country and all it stands for. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Sir Bandelot Posted October 26, 2010 Report Posted October 26, 2010 He was pledged to wage jihad, which means to kill as many Westerners as he could. Why a shred of mercy for him? Well don't look to me for mercy. Let me put it this way, i wouldn't do what he did. But ask instead why your Hillary would want to get involved. No doubt this is at the behest of Obama himself. So it's political, a face saving effort of some kind. They seemed pretty keen on giving him a deal. Why don't they want to test their shiny new military tribunal on him? We may never know, JBG Quote
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