Question capitalism, Trudeau tells students

[Leafless]

"Justin Trudeau delivered a radical message to hundreds of high school students in Windsor yesterday, calling on them to rethink the capitalist system and reconsider Canada's reputation as a squeaky-clean model nation."

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/n...69-65eb056f970b

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Like father, like son!

Sounds like Mr. Trudeau could be a little wet in behind the ears.

You be the judge.

[BubberMiley]

Is it a radical message to tell students to think? Maybe in those trailer park schools.

[Michael Bluth]

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Like father, like son!

Sounds like Mr. Trudeau could be a little wet in behind the ears.

You be the judge.

Fortunate for both father and son, grandpa became a millionaire thanks to the evils of capitalism.

G*d damned silver spoon socialists.

[noahbody]

I think he just lost my vote to Ben Mulroney.

[Figleaf]

What's wrong with questioning capitalism? Or is it the concept of questioning anything established that is really the beef?

[BC_chick]

That's the first sentence of the article, immediately following is as follows:

Mr. Trudeau suggested the capitalist "machine" that sustains modern existence may also become modern civilization's downfall. The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption, he said. "Our capitalist model has given us tremendous things," Mr. Trudeau said. "But the time has come for us to look at it critically and try to improve on it, given the accelerated pace of change and the fact that we have limited space."

He is not against capitalism, he is proposing looking beyond only the immediate gratification and profit, and considering the future of the planet in making that buck.

It's called social responsibility. How RADICAL.

[BC_chick]

Complete twisting of Trudeau's words so early in his career imply one thing - they're worried about the level of success his political career promises to have. And rightfully so, his priorities are on the same page as the new generation of voters. Plus, he's attractive and a Trudeau.

Let the smearing begin....

[guyser]

Let the smearing begin....

...and the swooning. At the very least, he will make politics popular and sexy again. Considering the current group...um yea, sexy is back.

[noahbody]

That's the first sentence of the article, immediately following is as follows:

Mr. Trudeau suggested the capitalist "machine" that sustains modern existence may also become modern civilization's downfall. The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption, he said. "Our capitalist model has given us tremendous things," Mr. Trudeau said. "But the time has come for us to look at it critically and try to improve on it, given the accelerated pace of change and the fact that we have limited space."

He is not against capitalism, he is proposing looking beyond only the immediate gratification and profit, and considering the future of the planet in making that buck.

It's called social responsibility. How RADICAL.

My interpertation of what he is saying is that Canada should become a true socialist society. "Promotes exploitation of natural resources" means sell our supply to the world. Suggesting we should no longer participate in the capitalist world markets means he feels the government should control the industry. This is what is radical (and silly) about his statements. And Harper is radical for wanting to reform the senate. Oh brother.

[August1991]

He is not against capitalism, he is proposing looking beyond only the immediate gratification and profit, and considering the future of the planet in making that buck.

As Michael Bluth noted rightly above, did Trudeau's grandfather "look beyond capitalism" when he made his pile? Is Trudeau fils going to give any of it up now that he's seen the light?

With that said, I figure Trudeau has the money to hire better speechwriters/researchers:

Mr. Trudeau suggested the capitalist "machine" that sustains modern existence may also become modern civilization's downfall. The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption, he said.

That's false. Markets generally do take into account our best estimate of future costs or consequences. The problems arise where markets do not exist or are incomplete.

So, Trudeau is wrong to blame capitalism - he should blame a lack of markets.

[BC_chick]

My interpertation of what he is saying is that Canada should become a true socialist society. "Promotes exploitation of natural resources" means sell our supply to the world. Suggesting we should no longer participate in the capitalist world markets means he feels the government should control the industry.

He does not say anything about about not participating in the capitalist world market. I don't know how much clearer it gets than the following:

The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption [...] the time has come for us to look at it critically and try to improve on it, given the accelerated pace of change and the fact that we have limited space.

[BC_chick]

As Michael Bluth noted rightly above, did Trudeau's grandfather "look beyond capitalism" when he made his pile? Is Trudeau fils going to give any of it up now that he's seen the light?

I believe he clearly stated that our resources can *no longer* facilitate the changes as they did before. In 1900 the world has 1.5 billion people. 2.5 billion in 1950. IOW, we don't live in the same world as Trudeau's grandfather.

With that said, I figure Trudeau has the money to hire better speechwriters/researchers:

Mr. Trudeau suggested the capitalist "machine" that sustains modern existence may also become modern civilization's downfall. The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption, he said.

That's false. Markets generally do take into account our best estimate of future costs or consequences.

Exactly Justin's point - they create prices based on the future, and if the future is bleak, prices are high. That's why we pay $1.30 for a litre of gas.

[noahbody]

He does not say anything about about not participating in the capitalist world market. I don't know how much clearer it gets than the following:

Exactly Justin's point - they create prices based on the future, and if the future is bleak, prices are high. That's why we pay $1.30 for a litre of gas.

Here are you latest two responses for the record.

[BC_chick]

He does not say anything about about not participating in the capitalist world market. I don't know how much clearer it gets than the following:

Exactly Justin's point - they create prices based on the future, and if the future is bleak, prices are high. That's why we pay $1.30 for a litre of gas.

Here are you latest two responses for the record.

And your point is....?

[Argus]

That's the first sentence of the article, immediately following is as follows:

Mr. Trudeau suggested the capitalist "machine" that sustains modern existence may also become modern civilization's downfall. The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption, he said. "Our capitalist model has given us tremendous things," Mr. Trudeau said. "But the time has come for us to look at it critically and try to improve on it, given the accelerated pace of change and the fact that we have limited space."

He is not against capitalism, he is proposing looking beyond only the immediate gratification and profit, and considering the future of the planet in making that buck.

It's called social responsibility. How RADICAL.

Yeah, I love it when rich people try to tell us that we should look beyond gratification and profit, then get back into their limos and have themselves driven back to the jet to fly them to one of their mansions. Al Gore does that too.

[Argus]

Complete twisting of Trudeau's words so early in his career imply one thing - they're worried about the level of success his political career promises to have. And rightfully so, his priorities are on the same page as the new generation of voters.

Who are, by and large, flighty, shallow, self-absorbed, and lacking any real knowledge on almost all subjects related to governance.

Plus, he's attractive and a Trudeau.

Yeah, that's not shallow.

[guyser]

Who are, by and large, flighty, shallow, self-absorbed, and lacking any real knowledge on almost all subjects related to governance.

Meaning they are exactly how we were in our youth. And they vote so......

[noahbody]

He does not say anything about about not participating in the capitalist world market. I don't know how much clearer it gets than the following:

Exactly Justin's point - they create prices based on the future, and if the future is bleak, prices are high. That's why we pay $1.30 for a litre of gas.

Here are you latest two responses for the record.

And your point is....?

Just pointing out your contradiction. You went from him saying nothing about participating in the capitalist world market to it being the basis of his point.

[noahbody]

Plus, he's attractive and a Trudeau.

He does seem to be like his father as he's fallen in love with socialism. The NEP, which was a socialist policy, cost thousand of Canadians their jobs and investments in their homes. For this reason, it was devastating policy.

Justin's comments are even more ridiculous, if you understand how it would devastate the economy and impact the lives of Canadians. Not just big bad oil companies, but Joe Employee and every shareholder. Not to mention those employed in the medical industry, which is largely funded because of our current economy, and those who use the system.

Do you think I'm right on this one or is Justin right because he's a Trudeau?

[White Doors]

BC Chick.

Of course you would not see that as an affront to capitalism...

Look at your political compass score. You are about 1pt away from communism.

quelle suprise!

[Topaz]

I think we shouldn't worry too much what Trudeau has to say yet, he's young and inexperience but rather worry more of how Harper thinks and what he does and what secrets he keeping about Afghanistan!!

[White Doors]

I think we shouldn't worry too much what Trudeau has to say yet, he's young and inexperience but rather worry more of how Harper thinks and what he does and what secrets he keeping about Afghanistan!!

I think we should ask him what he knows of these Dominionists personally.

They sound like a powerful, sercretive bunch.

Why catchme has proof they are pulling the strings behind the scenes of virtually the whole western worlds governments!

What do you think about that?

[Michael Bluth]

I think we shouldn't worry too much what Trudeau has to say yet, he's young and inexperience but rather worry more of how Harper thinks and what he does and what secrets he keeping about Afghanistan!!

Brilliant.

Apropos of nothing to do with the thread you attack Harper on Afghanistan.

Good on you. A one track mind must have some benefits. Somewhere.

[Figleaf]

Complete twisting of Trudeau's words so early in his career imply one thing - they're worried about the level of success his political career promises to have. And rightfully so, his priorities are on the same page as the new generation of voters.

Who are, by and large, flighty, shallow, self-absorbed, and lacking any real knowledge on almost all subjects related to governance.

:Puke:

Meaning they are exactly how we were in our youth. And they vote so......

:barf:

[Figleaf]

He does seem to be like his father as he's fallen in love with socialism.

JT's comments didn't advocate socialism at all. Stop fabricating nonsense.

The NEP, which was a socialist policy,...

It was statist and redistributive, but not really particularly socialisit.

cost thousand of Canadians their jobs and investments in their homes. For this reason, it was devastating policy.

Actually, a recession caused most of that trouble, not the NEP. In any event, the NEP was not socialist and has very little to do with JT.

Justin's comments are even more ridiculous, if you understand how it would devastate the economy and impact the lives of Canadians.

What speach did you hear him give in your imagination? Seriously dude, try to retain some credibility.