Michael Bluth Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 From today's Globe and Mail. Link Here's the importance. According to quarterly fundraising results, posted Tuesday by Elections Canada, the Liberals managed to raise only $531,141 from 4,365 donors.By contrast, the Tories vacuumed up almost $5.2 million from more than 45,000 contributors. The NDP scooped up $1.2 million from almost 15,000 donors. Wow, the Liberals are in trouble. All the more reason there will be an election by fall at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedavid00 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 While that's true, the polls are still showing ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Well, let's see...so far Harper has out-thought, out-maneuvred and out-legislated Dion, and now it looks like Harper has out-fundraised him too. What has Dion done? Shoved his foot in his yap with the Greens and almost learned how to speak English. Ok, so the last one was a bit generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Well, let's see...so far Harper has out-thought, out-maneuvred and out-legislated Dion, and now it looks like Harper has out-fundraised him too. What has Dion done? Shoved his foot in his yap with the Greens and almost learned how to speak English. Ok, so the last one was a bit generous. And pass by the Tories in the polls today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Do people vote for who has the most money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Nope, but when the attack ads hit, polls show people listen up good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted May 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Nope, but when the attack ads hit, polls show people listen up good. You sir have hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Nope, but when the attack ads hit, polls show people listen up good. Yep, "soldiers in the street" worked real well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted May 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 \Yep, "soldiers in the street" worked real well those ads never aired and they still cost Paul Martin his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 those ads never aired and they still cost Paul Martin his career. The number one mistake in that campaign, IMO. With all that money to blow on attack ads, you better hope the CPC don't do something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted May 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 The number one mistake in that campaign, IMO. With all that money to blow on attack ads, you better hope the CPC don't do something similar. If the Dion definition ads are any indication they are definitely moving in the right direction. Say what you will about those ads a few months back, but they definitely netted the CPC support. At least for the short-term... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 If the Dion definition ads are any indication they are definitely moving in the right direction.Say what you will about those ads a few months back, but they definitely netted the CPC support. At least for the short-term... I don't think I've seen all of them, but the ones I have seen do look better than the ones from the 2006 campaign. Then again, the election hasn't even been called yet (and won't necessarily happen anytime soon)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Do people vote for who has the most money? People give the most to the parties they truly support. These numbers are good for the CPC who should otherwise be fearing their base leaving them. It just goes to show, there are no options for right-leaning people in Canada anymore, so they all just deal with it and vote CPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 People give the most to the parties they truly support. These numbers are good for the CPC who should otherwise be fearing their base leaving them. Whether you support a party fully, or only support them a little, it makes no difference. Either way you get only one vote. Besides, it only shows that the Conservatives have 45,000 full supporters. It's hard to win an election from the votes of 45,000 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted May 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 I don't think I've seen all of them, but the ones I have seen do look better than the ones from the 2006 campaign. Then again, the election hasn't even been called yet (and won't necessarily happen anytime soon)... The Conservatives actually talked about the cheeziness of the ads in 2006, especially the *beep* *beep* being planned. Perhaps the newest ads are a sign of maturity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 The Conservatives actually talked about the cheeziness of the ads in 2006, especially the *beep* *beep* being planned. Perhaps the newest ads are a sign of maturity... Actually some of them weren't too bad. The ones I am talking about are the attack ads, especially with respect to Gomery/Sponsorship scandal. My favourite though was the one where they said something like "the Liberals are planning attack ads" right in the middle of their own attack ad. That was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 People give the most to the parties they truly support. These numbers are good for the CPC who should otherwise be fearing their base leaving them. Whether you support a party fully, or only support them a little, it makes no difference. Either way you get only one vote. Besides, it only shows that the Conservatives have 45,000 full supporters. It's hard to win an election from the votes of 45,000 people. It's still an indication of the level of support the Conservatives and, for that matter, NDP have from loyalits. Remember that most Liberal Party money came in large amounts from corporations, and that is now banned. They never did get much from ordinary people - other than what they stole, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 It's still an indication of the level of support the Conservatives and, for that matter, NDP have from loyalits. Remember that most Liberal Party money came in large amounts from corporations, and that is now banned. They never did get much from ordinary people - other than what they stole, of course. Hilarious... do you have some proof that the Liberal Party stole anything? I seem to remember a commission that was set up and it showed that there were a couple people involved, not the party itself. Sad Argus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 It's still an indication of the level of support the Conservatives and, for that matter, NDP have from loyalits. Again, how does having 45,000 loyalists help the Conservatives in an election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Circle Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 It's still an indication of the level of support the Conservatives and, for that matter, NDP have from loyalits. Again, how does having 45,000 loyalists help the Conservatives in an election? Versus 5000 Libs....seems kinda obvious right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Absolutely. Who ever can get more boots on the street, more canvassers, more knockers.......has a better tactile advantage. .....helps though if they are articulate and better looking too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 I believe that any party can have tens of thousand of $$$ but what does it take to win a election??? TRUST and I don't think the voters are trusting the Cons, especially, when they make such a big deal about them being honest and forth right. Harper is making moves that a % of the country does not like and I really don't think we will see an elction much before Oct. 18/09 unless he pushing the oppositions and they bring down the govt. I still think the war is going to be Harper's down fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Versus 5000 Libs....seems kinda obvious right? If it's so obvious to you, why don't you explain it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Absolutely. Who ever can get more boots on the street, more canvassers, more knockers.......has a better tactile advantage......helps though if they are articulate and better looking too Ah, I think this comment explains it. Further, to folow the trail of money, it looks like people are leaving the Liberal party and heading for the NDP or Green. And easy does it Topaz, people don't trust ANY politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Money does help a riding, the bigger the war chest the better chance they have of winning. They can get more material out on the street, buy ads etc. If they have plenty they can even hire people instead of totally relying on volunteers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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