Conspiracy mindset and critical thinking

[ScottSA]

Sorry...sorry....he's easy to bait. Sorry...

:D

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If I had to live my life over, I'd live over a saloon.

---W. C. Fields

lol

[DogOnPorch]

Hey, she's cute. Obviously not smart, but sexy.

Yeah...I'd like to get her in a crater and explore the far side of the Moon.

Can you say that on TV??

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All men's gains are the fruit of venturing.

---Herodotus

[margrace]

You'd like that wouldn't you Scotty?

To shut people up. To make the tow the rightwing line. To accept pap as it is fed rather than asking questions.

Do you have an evangelical TV show btw? LOL

You are funny, sooo funny (loopy funny, not ha ha funny)

Free speech is free speech. Free speech means I can say "the Holocaust did not happen" and you can say "Jesus loves you and hates gays".

If you curb my free speech, then yours will also be curbed.

This is what you want?

Yes. I think all dissenters should be shot, or in the case of the internet, infested with viri. Please open port 23 and stand by for bluescreen.

I'm not sure why you interpret mockery of idiotic conspiracy theories as some kind of assault on free speech. I'm merely using my right of free speech to mock your free speech. Are we suffering from category error this week?

The more I read ScottSA's posts the more I realize we are hearing from possibly a 20 or 30 something person who has never experienced the real end of life. He is sitting in his ivory tower judging others from his own inexperience of life. He certainly never milked a cow, dug harvested and stored the produce of his garden, sat up in the night waiting for lambs to be born in -30 weather or lived the life a lot of us have. He basically does not know what he is talking about. Does he know what its like to get up in the morning,grab ones clothes and run like blases for the kitchen. The only warm room in the house. I think not.

[Figleaf]

You're a complete loon.

Reported.

[stignasty]

You're a complete loon.

Reported.

Wow, a self appointed hallway monitor. Nice work.

[stignasty]

Penn & Teller on the "moon hoax."

[ScottSA]

The more I read ScottSA's posts the more I realize we are hearing from possibly a 20 or 30 something person who has never experienced the real end of life. He is sitting in his ivory tower judging others from his own inexperience of life. He certainly never milked a cow, dug harvested and stored the produce of his garden, sat up in the night waiting for lambs to be born in -30 weather or lived the life a lot of us have. He basically does not know what he is talking about. Does he know what its like to get up in the morning,grab ones clothes and run like blases for the kitchen. The only warm room in the house. I think not.

Exactly. Except that I'm 48. And I've had lots of gardens and I've even grown, errrr..."hemp"...in my youth. I may not know all about running to warm rooms in the morning, but I'm all about running to campfires on cold mornings. I've done a fair bit of ivory towering too, and about ten years of construction crewbossing before ivory towering. I can't say I've sat up all night waiting for lambs to be born in -30 weather, or harvested a cow or milked a tractor, but I do know how to make chappattis, cook over water buffalo chip fires and navigate my way around 3rd world riots and general nastiness.

But here's a hint: Folks who tend toward the rightwing are generally not 20something ivorytowerites. In fact I've never actually met a rightwing 20something ivorytowerite. Usually people have to grow up a bit and see the world before they become rightwing. Some people never do get sufficient life experience to move rightward in outlook; no doubt because they don't have time to read, what with pregnant lambs and inclement weather and so on.

[bush_cheney2004]

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." - questionably attributed to W. Churchill

[ScottSA]

Penn & Teller on the "moon hoax."

Loved it, just like all Penn and Teller BS shows.

[stignasty]

But here's a hint: Folks who tend toward the rightwing are generally not 20something ivorytowerites. In fact I've never actually met a rightwing 20something ivorytowerite. Usually people have to grow up a bit and see the world before they become rightwing. Some people never do get sufficient life experience to move rightward in outlook; no doubt because they don't have time to read, what with pregnant lambs and inclement weather and so on.

When I was in my early 20s I was quite fond of the right. As I've gotten older I've drifted left. While your observations may be accurate of a trend, they are certainly not absolute.

[gc1765]

Penn & Teller on the "moon hoax."

thanks, that was hilarious!

[PolyNewbie]

The day I can buy a telescope and see that flag on the moon with my own eyes I will believe the moon landing took place. Until then I will assume the moon landing is like everything else such as the Lusitania, Pearl Harbour & 9/11.

...USS Liberty, WMD's in Iraq, Babies in the Inqubators, Our money system, E voting, terrorists....

[kuzadd]

wow a ridicule, smear piece, and that's a demonstration of critical thinking???

ROFL!!!!

Or a rational discussion on an alternative opinion.

Someone who lacks any critical thinking skills, of course wouldn;t recognize this for what it is.

Or did they simply wish to seize the opportunity, to further their name call/smear?

[scribblet]

Penn & Teller on the "moon hoax."

Good one !!

[kuzadd]

Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and

skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or

evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation,

experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief

and action. In its exemplary form, it is based on universal intellectual

values that transcend subject matter divisions: clarity, accuracy,

precision, consistency, relevance, sound evidence, good reasons, depth,

breadth, and fairness. It entails the examination of those structures or

elements of thought implicit in all reasoning: purpose, problem, or

question-at-issue, assumptions, concepts, empirical grounding; reasoning

leading to conclusions, implications and consequences, objections from

alternative viewpoints, and frame of reference. Critical thinking - in being

responsive to variable subject matter, issues, and purposes - is

incorporated in a family of interwoven modes of thinking, among them:

scientific thinking, mathematical thinking, historical thinking,

anthropological thinking, economic thinking, moral thinking, and

philosophical thinking.

You'll notice it does not include/smear/namecalling or ridicule.

This piece ,as do a number of posters here, inc. scottsa, excels at the smear/namecalling/ridicule.

BUT does NOT demonstrate any critical thinking skills, which can only explain IMO, why scottsa , posted it.

As he thinks this piece is actually demonstrative of that, critical thinking,, except, since scottsa, who is not alone in this, does not even begin to understand or demonstrate critical thinking skills in even one post I have ever read.

[jbg]

ScottSA: And on that note, let's discuss the probability of a faked moon landing.

Real moon landing = 40 billion dollars cost and no profit

Fake Moon Landing = 10 million cost + 39.99 billion profit.

Its that simple. What is on the moon that anyone would want ?

Oh Christ. You're a complete loon.

Or someone looking for attention.

[margrace]

The more I read ScottSA's posts the more I realize we are hearing from possibly a 20 or 30 something person who has never experienced the real end of life. He is sitting in his ivory tower judging others from his own inexperience of life. He certainly never milked a cow, dug harvested and stored the produce of his garden, sat up in the night waiting for lambs to be born in -30 weather or lived the life a lot of us have. He basically does not know what he is talking about. Does he know what its like to get up in the morning,grab ones clothes and run like blases for the kitchen. The only warm room in the house. I think not.

Exactly. Except that I'm 48. And I've had lots of gardens and I've even grown, errrr..."hemp"...in my youth. I may not know all about running to warm rooms in the morning, but I'm all about running to campfires on cold mornings. I've done a fair bit of ivory towering too, and about ten years of construction crewbossing before ivory towering. I can't say I've sat up all night waiting for lambs to be born in -30 weather, or harvested a cow or milked a tractor, but I do know how to make chappattis, cook over water buffalo chip fires and navigate my way around 3rd world riots and general nastiness.

But here's a hint: Folks who tend toward the rightwing are generally not 20something ivorytowerites. In fact I've never actually met a rightwing 20something ivorytowerite. Usually people have to grow up a bit and see the world before they become rightwing. Some people never do get sufficient life experience to move rightward in outlook; no doubt because they don't have time to read, what with pregnant lambs and inclement weather and so on.

Ha Ha Ha you people are so funny. You are younger than my children. You never knew what it was to not have health care because you could not afford it. Funnily enough 4 out of the 5 of them are what you would consider left wing. Oh yes they are really poor people, one is a professor and two others work in the health care field, one of course works in the oil patch in Alberta as I have already said on here. So you were'nt even a hippy aye. Oh I know lots of people who consider your type of camping really roughing it, we live in tourist country. Some of my kids are old enough to remember when we didn't have running water or an indoor toilet. One can remember thrashing and farming with horses.

[Figleaf]

You're a complete loon.

Reported.

Wow, a self appointed hallway monitor. Nice work.

I find this attitude quite curious. There are rules for the forum and one or two posters here are frequent and repeat offenders. There are three options, report them, respond in kind, or ignore them.

The latter isn't viable because they will persist and the rest of us will suffer. Responding in kind is not what our host here wants, and would only make the problem worse. That leaves only the option of reporting them.

Can you give me one good reason to indulge their abusive habits?

[DogOnPorch]

Some folks like rats...others don't.

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You learned the two greatest thing in life, never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut.

---Robert De Niro: Goodfellas

[ScottSA]

wow a ridicule, smear piece, and that's a demonstration of critical thinking???

ROFL!!!!

Or a rational discussion on an alternative opinion.

Someone who lacks any critical thinking skills, of course wouldn;t recognize this for what it is.

Or did they simply wish to seize the opportunity, to further their name call/smear?

Probably cleverly constructed in absolute secrecy by the buffoon Bush and his evil Zionist elves. Close your ears lest it take over your mind and make you into a stepford wife.

[gc1765]

these people are, to a man, complete losers. Losers. They are desperate and sad people who need to believe in some dark secret to give meaning to their lives.

On the Kennedy assasination:

On the moon landing "hoax":

On 911:

You forgot to mention the people who believe in the conspiracy theory that global warming is a hoax and a socialist scheme. Funny how right-wingers always conveniently leave that one out. Let's not forget there are conspiracy theorists on BOTH the extreme left and extreme right.

[GostHacked]

But here's a hint: Folks who tend toward the rightwing are generally not 20something ivorytowerites. In fact I've never actually met a rightwing 20something ivorytowerite. Usually people have to grow up a bit and see the world before they become rightwing. Some people never do get sufficient life experience to move rightward in outlook; no doubt because they don't have time to read, what with pregnant lambs and inclement weather and so on.

When I was in my early 20s I was quite fond of the right. As I've gotten older I've drifted left. While your observations may be accurate of a trend, they are certainly not absolute.

I have found myself drifting the same way. Eventhought I could be considered a Liberal by upbringing. My parents always voted NDP. I have always considered myself a socialist as well. Not sure how that is going to play out in this post yet.

How about this.

Maybe being a Liberal and a Conservative are not at all different. Both groups want to spend less money on something and more on another. In my view, the Conservatives don't want to spend money on socialist type programs like national health care but yet have no problem with spending millions and billions on a large and mostly unneeded military and policing units. As the Liberals would like to spend less on the military and more on socialist programs like national health care. Hmm national health care for all seems like a great idea. I think many would rather have more doctors than generals.

I have a problem with the 'growing up' part. With my experiences in life, I have gone the other way. I was center-right if you will. Now I am difinitively on the left. Me and stignasty may be in the minority on this, but that in itself would make an interesting poll. Political stand point from a young age to an old age. Compare how often shifts happen, when in life is it happening, and will it shift again? Also would be a good add on for that poll is to ask what happened in order to affect your thinking.

[ScottSA]

good idea

[jbg]

Probably cleverly constructed in absolute secrecy by the buffoon Bush and his evil Zionist elves. Close your ears lest it take over your mind and make you into a stepford wife.

This one, linked here (because it's secret) was definitely "constructed in absolute secrecy by the buffoon Bush and his evil Zionist elves".

Please keep this confidential, since it could undo the US's political stability.

[PolyNewbie]

constructed in absolute secrecy by the buffoon Bush and his evil Zionist elves

I don't know of anyone one this forum that says this is a Zionist agenda. I guess you just have to make things up like that to support your arguement.