Guthrie Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1. - GUILTY 2. - GUILTY 3. - not GUILTY 4. - GUILTY 5. - GUILTY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I remember this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolyNewbie Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I bet Bush pardons him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Michael Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 You can expect Dick Cheney to take a medical retirement real soon. Either that or he gets indicted by Fitz on the basis of the conviction of Libby. Not good for the Whitehouse at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchme Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 You can expect Dick Cheney to take a medical retirement real soon.Either that or he gets indicted by Fitz on the basis of the conviction of Libby. Not good for the Whitehouse at all. Cheney has being playing avoidance of this with his tripping around the world, on American taxpayer's dime. He should be indicted, and hopefullly he will. And one would hope the same would go for the whole Bush administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 If those pardons are made while Oval Office impeachments are being considered, when those impeachments are concluded with the removal of Bush and Cheney, any pardon will be vacated, original sentence will be imposed, pending any arrangements to be made with the federal prosecutors office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 I don't think that the Republicans took this nearly as serious as they should have. I have no idea if the conviction will be the last one on the subject but you can be sure that the stink from accusation tarred the Republicans in the election. It probably doesn't help Bush in office as well. It is a long two years in office and as 2008 draws closer, I expect more Republican candidates will come out swinging against the administration for the war, their highhanded behaviour and for the willfully breaking laws and then trying to blame others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 This will get interesting, and it will be interesting to see how the MSM plays this out. http://crooksandliars.com check it out. There is much said about the Libby case. Fall Guy Scapegoat Took one for the Team. If he gets pardoned at ALL, then we KNOW that there is evil in the White House. If Bush PARDONS Libby, then the whole trial was nothing but a circle jerking media farce. Not that it got alot of coverage. But I can't be sure of that, I do not have cable TV. So I get all my news online and in papers. Oh he had a bad memory? Why would he be a Vice President's Aide if he had such a shoddy memory. Or actually this plays in perfect with it all. Protecting those who SHOULD be accountable for the crimes, and they probably lead to other crimes made by the current administration. Oh but he is a nice guy and never would lie. No one lies. EVER. And people in the White House and people who help out those in the White House, NEVER LIE AT ALL. THEY DO NOT LIE. They all have crappy memories. Mockingly I say 'Mr. Bush, why is it that no WMDs have been found in Iraq after the invasion?' To which he would reply, 'I am not sure, I cannot remember properly.' Selective memory. Saying 'I can't remeber' is useful to someone like Libby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 If those pardons are made while Oval Office impeachments are being considered, when those impeachments are concluded with the removal of Bush and Cheney, any pardon will be vacated, original sentence will be imposed, pending any arrangements to be made with the federal prosecutors office. Why not just pardon themselves? Pardon's are common all the time with Presidents. It'll happen again here, no doubt, like it did with every other one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 If those pardons are made while Oval Office impeachments are being considered, when those impeachments are concluded with the removal of Bush and Cheney, any pardon will be vacated, original sentence will be imposed, pending any arrangements to be made with the federal prosecutors office. Why not just pardon themselves? Pardon's are common all the time with Presidents. It'll happen again here, no doubt, like it did with every other one before. Well time to start paying attention to WHO gets Pardoned. Why they were Pardoned, and what were the reasons for the person needing a pardon. Yes it happens all the time and sometimes for good reason. I do not see a valid reason why Libby would/should Pardoned. Who knows, maybe other crooks and liars have been pardoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 If those pardons are made while Oval Office impeachments are being considered, when those impeachments are concluded with the removal of Bush and Cheney, any pardon will be vacated, original sentence will be imposed, pending any arrangements to be made with the federal prosecutors office. Huh? Who made this up? Do you think Nixon's pardons were vacated too upon resignation? Impeachments are not "considered"....articles are drafted in the House and a trial is held in the Senate. Bill Clinton was impeached....his pardons were not "vacated". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Huh? Who made this up? Do you think Nixon's pardons were vacated too upon resignation? Impeachments are not "considered"....articles are drafted in the House and a trial is held in the Senate.Bill Clinton was impeached....his pardons were not "vacated". Clinton was acquitted though by the U.S. Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Clinton was acquitted though by the U.S. Senate. True, but he was still impeached. It's a technical point wrt the poster's assertion about pardons being vacated. That is fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted March 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 you guys who just make it up as you go along --- you really ought to give up your pathetic act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 you guys who just make it up as you go along --- you really ought to give up your pathetic act Why don't you try and back up your big accusations with some facts pal. You are a one trick pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted March 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 you guys who just make it up as you go along --- you really ought to give up your pathetic act Why don't you try and back up your big accusations with some facts pal. You are a one trick pony. certainly, there is no, trick to telling the truth -- if you can do nothing but whine and bitch because a thread was started from an electronic media event - the live reporting of the guilty verdicts handed down in the Libby case -- and require a URL instead, well, I pity you and your backwardness This URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7030600400.html - offers the headline --- Libby Found Guilty in CIA Leak Case is it still just an accusation? even after it's a headline? do you still question the FACT that Libby has been found guilty? how sad to be you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 you guys who just make it up as you go along --- you really ought to give up your pathetic act Why don't you try and back up your big accusations with some facts pal. You are a one trick pony. certainly, there is no, trick to telling the truth -- if you can do nothing but whine and bitch because a thread was started from an electronic media event - the live reporting of the guilty verdicts handed down in the Libby case -- and require a URL instead, well, I pity you and your backwardness This URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7030600400.html - offers the headline --- Libby Found Guilty in CIA Leak Case is it still just an accusation? even after it's a headline? do you still question the FACT that Libby has been found guilty? how sad to be you I can't believe how thick you are. My comment about you backing up your big accusations with some facts was directed at the comment OF YOURS THAT I QUOTED. It wasn't directed at this thread, just your bone headed remarks that I QUOTED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted March 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 you want me to show evidence of you making it up as you go along? and you expect to be treated seriously? go back to school, learn something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Well it seems that Libby cannot get pardoned by Bush. http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/petitions.htm Section 1-2.112 Standards for Considering Pardon PetitionsIn general, a pardon is granted on the basis of the petitioner's demonstrated good conduct for a substantial period of time after conviction and service of sentence. The Department's regulations require a petitioner to wait a period of at least five years after conviction or release from confinement (whichever is later) before filing a pardon application (28 C.F.R. § 1.2). In determining whether a particular petitioner should be recommended for a pardon, the following are the principal factors taken into account. So he has to wait at least 5 years after the conviction. List of Presidential pardons http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/recipients.htm It seems from what I have read is that the current President has granted the fewest pardons of any previous president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolyNewbie Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 without looking at the list I bet his good buddy Clinton is the worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Well it seems that Libby cannot get pardoned by Bush....So he has to wait at least 5 years after the conviction. List of Presidential pardons...It seems from what I have read is that the current President has granted the fewest pardons of any previous president. So how was it that Ford can pardon Nixon so quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I am betting that Scooter is counting on a presidential pardon. There are no time restrictions on presidential pardons - certainly poppy bush padoned the guys who could otherwise have testified against him for selling weapons to a terrorist state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I'll go one further. I'll bet the Republican machine will find a way to blame the liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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