Ready for a Spring Election?

[SamStranger]

Its quite simple the way I see it.

Its Harper vs. Dion for the job of Prime Minister.

So in other words its...

Cutting Taxes vs. Raising Taxes.

Its reducing green house gases vs. Raising them by 33%.

Its having a comprehensive cancer strategy vs. Nothing at all.

Its $1200 a year for each kid under 6 vs. NOTHING for parents.

Its locking prisoners up for longer vs. Letting murderers and pedophiles vote.

Its being against SSM vs. Being FOR SSM.

Its brining accountability back vs. Culture of entitlement

Its an Anglo-Albertan vs. Another Liberal that can barely speak english

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

Its having future elections for senators vs. Unelected Liberal Corrupt Senators

I want you guys to fill in the rest.

Lets have a debate, shall we?

[M.Dancer]

Why debate? Looks like you laid out the parameters for yourself and what ever strawmen show up.....

Cut taxes? Well the libs have indeed cut personal taxes and Dion has made no statements about raising taxes....yet Harper already has raised taxes..especially if you are an Income Trust holder....

Reducing Green house Gases?

that's a tough one cause if the Rona Plan comes into effect 35 years from now.....

Its $1200 a year for each kid under 6 vs. NOTHING for parents.

While I appreciate the univesal baby sitter subsidy, the libs haven't shelved the national daycare plan

Its locking prisoners up for longer vs. Letting murderers and pedophiles vote.

Only pedophiles? They vote blue don't they?

Its being against SSM vs. Being FOR SSM.

At last light this is a dead issue. Thanks for coming, here's your hat. Mind you, that won't stop the yahoos from beating this dead horse....

Its brining accountability back vs. Culture of entitlement

snore......

Its an Anglo-Albertan vs. Another Liberal that can barely speak english

Well if racists like Harper, how bad can he be?

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

I thought the right wingers were saying it's a provincila issue...wish they would make up their minds......

Its having future elections for senators vs. Unelected Liberal Corrupt Senators

..abolish the senate

I want you guys to fill in the rest.

never mind.....

[mikedavid00]

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

Good luck to both of them on that one.

Hospitals are managed provincially.

It's not a mangement issue at this stage, it's much more than that.

[seabee]

Why does the poll not include the Bloc Québécois?

[madmax]

Its quite simple the way I see it.

Its Harper vs. Dion for the job of Prime Minister.

So in other words its...

Cutting Taxes vs. Raising Taxes.

Its reducing green house gases vs. Raising them by 33%.

Its having a comprehensive cancer strategy vs. Nothing at all.

Its $1200 a year for each kid under 6 vs. NOTHING for parents.

Its locking prisoners up for longer vs. Letting murderers and pedophiles vote.

Its being against SSM vs. Being FOR SSM.

Its brining accountability back vs. Culture of entitlement

Its an Anglo-Albertan vs. Another Liberal that can barely speak english

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

Its having future elections for senators vs. Unelected Liberal Corrupt Senators

I want you guys to fill in the rest.

Lets have a debate, shall we?

Looks like you have already decided.

Hmm, Liberal eh, by that list everything looks pretty stinky.

Let me think about it.

Emerson, Fortier, Raising taxes, (if you believe Preston Manning and Mike Harris), Many uncompleted files above.

Well, now that I think about it, why would I want to pay for another election.

I don't like any of the above, and they haven't earned their pay yet.

Get back to work you lazy politicians.

No, they can stay at the job for another 3 to 4 years, and I will be happy.

[blueblood]

Its quite simple the way I see it.

Its Harper vs. Dion for the job of Prime Minister.

So in other words its...

Cutting Taxes vs. Raising Taxes.

Its reducing green house gases vs. Raising them by 33%.

Its having a comprehensive cancer strategy vs. Nothing at all.

Its $1200 a year for each kid under 6 vs. NOTHING for parents.

Its locking prisoners up for longer vs. Letting murderers and pedophiles vote.

Its being against SSM vs. Being FOR SSM.

Its brining accountability back vs. Culture of entitlement

Its an Anglo-Albertan vs. Another Liberal that can barely speak english

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

Its having future elections for senators vs. Unelected Liberal Corrupt Senators

I want you guys to fill in the rest.

Lets have a debate, shall we?

Looks like you have already decided.

Hmm, Liberal eh, by that list everything looks pretty stinky.

Let me think about it.

Emerson, Fortier, Raising taxes, (if you believe Preston Manning and Mike Harris), Many uncompleted files above.

Well, now that I think about it, why would I want to pay for another election.

I don't like any of the above, and they haven't earned their pay yet.

Get back to work you lazy politicians.

No, they can stay at the job for another 3 to 4 years, and I will be happy.

This is where fixed election dates would come in real handy...

[August1991]

Why does the poll not include the Bloc Québécois?

My thought exactly. I can tolerate different political viewpoints but I draw the line at sheer incompetence.

This poll (and thread) are botched.

[Leafless]

The Canadian political system has been reduced to sheer politicization of individualism regionalism rather than Canada politically run nationally as a country.

The current political system is a joke and so badly lacks leadership and makes a mockery out of the definition of a country.

[normanchateau]

Its quite simple the way I see it.

Its Harper vs. Dion for the job of Prime Minister.

So in other words its...

Cutting Taxes vs. Raising Taxes.

Harper raised the personal income tax rate on July 1, 2006. And he raised it such that it disproportionately hurts those who earn the least.

" * Lowest Personal Income Tax Rate Raised - To partially offset the cost of the reduction in GST, the lowest personal income tax rate (for taxable incomes of up to $35,595) will be raised to 15.5 percent July 1 2006, in effect making it 15.25 percent for 2006 and 15.5 percent for 2007 on."

Now why would Harper do something so incredibly stupid? It's easy to guess. When he announces the federal budget in February, 2007, he'll announce that he's cutting the personal income tax rate on those who earn the least. He's counting on the voter to be even more stupid than he is.

[geoffrey]

Why does the poll not include the Bloc Québécois?

My thought exactly. I can tolerate different political viewpoints but I draw the line at sheer incompetence.

This poll (and thread) are botched.

I'm voting Bloc if they'll let me run as a candidate out here.

Seriously though, I'm stuck. I can't vote CPC or Liberal... and those are the only two relevant parties. The NDP is a joke and the Greens more so. The CPC has gone on a big ideological shift from small government to HUGE government (spending growth tripled inflation this year... personal income tax revenues by 5 times inflation). The Liberals have shown me they are the same old, same old with Dion the Minister of failure leading (Clarity Act... environment... everything he touches is a sham).

So who do folks like me vote for?

[Canadian Blue]

I have a prediction who'll get my vote...

Some asshole, and that's about all I know about our choices.

[Saturn]

Seriously though, I'm stuck. I can't vote CPC or Liberal... and those are the only two relevant parties. The NDP is a joke and the Greens more so. The CPC has gone on a big ideological shift from small government to HUGE government (spending growth tripled inflation this year... personal income tax revenues by 5 times inflation). The Liberals have shown me they are the same old, same old with Dion the Minister of failure leading (Clarity Act... environment... everything he touches is a sham).

So who do folks like me vote for?

Run as independent and vote for yourself.

[Saturn]

I have a prediction who'll get my vote...

Some asshole, and that's about all I know about our choices.

Some are worse assholes than others and since some asshole WILL be elected, you might as well vote for some asshole who is less bad than the rest.

[geoffrey]

Seriously though, I'm stuck. I can't vote CPC or Liberal... and those are the only two relevant parties. The NDP is a joke and the Greens more so. The CPC has gone on a big ideological shift from small government to HUGE government (spending growth tripled inflation this year... personal income tax revenues by 5 times inflation). The Liberals have shown me they are the same old, same old with Dion the Minister of failure leading (Clarity Act... environment... everything he touches is a sham).

So who do folks like me vote for?

Run as independent and vote for yourself.

Sounds fun. I'll change my name to Stephen J. Harper and register the Conservative's Party of Canada and run like that. I'm bound to be elected... how'd they know who to pick?

[Saturn]

Now why would Harper do something so incredibly stupid? It's easy to guess. When he announces the federal budget in February, 2007, he'll announce that he's cutting the personal income tax rate on those who earn the least. He's counting on the voter to be even more stupid than he is.

But the voter is stupid. Judging from Flaherty's record in Ontario and Harper's record so far, they will also:

-provide income-splitting on some type of income (like dividends or capital gains) and advertise it as income-splitting across the board that "all hard-working Canadians will benefit from",

-give more beer and popcorn money to "deserving parents" as a way to "invest in Canada's future"

-send some Ralph bucks to everyone (in some form or another) because "the people are much smarter than government and know better what to do with the money",

-come up with 100 new tax credits for this and that because "Canadians should be rewarded" for everything from dieting and exercising to keeping their lawns weed-free

-cut corporate taxes because "the Canadian people will benefit",

-pour billions and billions into Quebec because "Quebeckers deserve it" (in Quebec) and "it will strengthen

the Canadian economy" (elsewhere),

-pour more billions into subsidies for farmers, plumbers, asbestos producers, and everyone else who can vote "to strengthen the Canadian economy"

-earmark lots of money for studying how to improve health-care because "Canadians deserve world class health-care" and advertise it as a once and for all solution to all the problems ailing the health-care system

-earmark money to change 1 line in the Clean Air Act and call it the Pristine Air Act at some point in the future

-spend more to build more jails (or rent them) and call it the Act for Crime-free Canada

-waste more money on national security projects because "Canadians' security is a number one priority" (along with 100 others)

-give money to some seniors because they obviously deserve it (they vote a lot) and advertise it as some universal program that will solve all problems of the elderly

-cut the immigration application fee for some type of immigrants and again claim that it applies to everyone

The result of all these wonderful initiatives will be:

-lots of votes for the CPC

-a massive hidden deficit that everyone will know about but will not show up on the books until after the following election (when they will be kicked out of government)

-lots of angry voters when they realize that not everyone qualifies for everything

[gc1765]

Its quite simple the way I see it.

Its Harper vs. Dion for the job of Prime Minister.

So in other words its...

Cutting Taxes vs. Raising Taxes.

I'll go with the party that cut my taxes (Liberals) rather than the party that raised them (Conservatives)

Its reducing green house gases vs. Raising them by 33%.

Conservatives have reduced greenhouse gases? That's news to me.

Its having a comprehensive cancer strategy vs. Nothing at all.

I'll take the party that created CIHR and more than doubled funding for health research (Liberals)

Its $1200 a year for each kid under 6 vs. NOTHING for parents.

Nothing for me vs. nothing for me. Tough choice.

Its being against SSM vs. Being FOR SSM.

I'll go with for SSM.

Its brining accountability back vs. Culture of entitlement

I am not naive enough to believe that any of the current party leaders are going to be "accountable".

Its an Anglo-Albertan vs. Another Liberal that can barely speak english

I'd prefer to vote for the candidate with the best policies, rather than discriminate based on which region of the country they come from. And I can understand Dion's English perfectly well.

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

How's that going by the way?

[blueblood]

Now why would Harper do something so incredibly stupid? It's easy to guess. When he announces the federal budget in February, 2007, he'll announce that he's cutting the personal income tax rate on those who earn the least. He's counting on the voter to be even more stupid than he is.

But the voter is stupid. Judging from Flaherty's record in Ontario and Harper's record so far, they will also:

-provide income-splitting on some type of income (like dividends or capital gains) and advertise it as income-splitting across the board that "all hard-working Canadians will benefit from",

-give more beer and popcorn money to "deserving parents" as a way to "invest in Canada's future"

-send some Ralph bucks to everyone (in some form or another) because "the people are much smarter than government and know better what to do with the money",

-come up with 100 new tax credits for this and that because "Canadians should be rewarded" for everything from dieting and exercising to keeping their lawns weed-free

-cut corporate taxes because "the Canadian people will benefit",

-pour billions and billions into Quebec because "Quebeckers deserve it" (in Quebec) and "it will strengthen

the Canadian economy" (elsewhere),

-pour more billions into subsidies for farmers, plumbers, asbestos producers, and everyone else who can vote "to strengthen the Canadian economy"

-earmark lots of money for studying how to improve health-care because "Canadians deserve world class health-care" and advertise it as a once and for all solution to all the problems ailing the health-care system

-earmark money to change 1 line in the Clean Air Act and call it the Pristine Air Act at some point in the future

-spend more to build more jails (or rent them) and call it the Act for Crime-free Canada

-waste more money on national security projects because "Canadians' security is a number one priority" (along with 100 others)

-give money to some seniors because they obviously deserve it (they vote a lot) and advertise it as some universal program that will solve all problems of the elderly

-cut the immigration application fee for some type of immigrants and again claim that it applies to everyone

The result of all these wonderful initiatives will be:

-lots of votes for the CPC

-a massive hidden deficit that everyone will know about but will not show up on the books until after the following election (when they will be kicked out of government)

-lots of angry voters when they realize that not everyone qualifies for everything

Easy comrade, I'm sorry me and the majority of Canadians like to feel safe, keep our money which we work for, and don't mind that corporations contribute to infrastructure. Cuba is warm this time of year.

[Who's Doing What?]

Its quite simple the way I see it.

Its Harper vs. Dion for the job of Prime Minister.

So in other words its...

Cutting Taxes vs. Raising Taxes.

Cutting the GST for the rich does me no good. Cutting my personal income tax, gets my attention.

Its reducing green house gases vs. Raising them by 33%.

Raising Greenhouse gases by 33%?

Oh right this is the very same Liberal govt. that was in power for the 90's. The change in leadership is meaningless.

Its having a comprehensive cancer strategy vs. Nothing at all.

I just hope I have enough personal wealth to afford this cancer strategy.

Its $1200 a year for each kid under 6 vs. NOTHING for parents.

My friends can't wait to get thier first cheque. I think they are going to buy beer and pot, and maybe go to Harvey's for dinner. They send their thanks Stevie.

Its locking prisoners up for longer vs. Letting murderers and pedophiles vote.

Well murderers and pedophiles shouldn't be allowed to breathe let alone vote, but an overcrowded expensive prison system doesn't work either.

Its being against SSM vs. Being FOR SSM.

This issue is dead but go ahead and wail away.

Its brining accountability back vs. Culture of entitlement

It seems I am witnessing a culture of entitlement with the CPC right now. Like Harper feels he is entitled to do whatever the hell he wants. You know like strip the right of free speech from his party members. As for accountability... Dave Emerson anybody?

Its an Anglo-Albertan vs. Another Liberal that can barely speak english

What a nice statement. Becareful or the women will be after the vote.

Its redusing wait times vs. Letting wait times go UP AND UP

Thank you for reducing wait times. When I have enough money to enjoy them I will send you a nice postcard.

Its having future elections for senators vs. Unelected Liberal Corrupt Senators

Hmmm.....Michael Fortier??????????

Kind of touches on that accountability thing again.

I want you guys to fill in the rest.

Lets have a debate, shall we?

OK a few things I would like to debate.

Rona Ambrose needs a new hair style.

Agree or disagree?

Belinda was hotter as a blonde.

Agree or disagree?

Stephane Dion looks like the dad from the old TV show ALF.

Agree or disagree?

Less than 5% of the population has a clue what "Sustainable Development" means.

Agree or disagree?

Harper's leather cowboy outfit picture will haunt him for eternity.

Agree or disagree?

[geoffrey]

Its reducing green house gases vs. Raising them by 33%.

Raising Greenhouse gases by 33%?

Oh right this is the very same Liberal govt. that was in power for the 90's. The change in leadership is meaningless.

It is meaningless when you pick the former environment minister, sheesh.

Rona Ambrose needs a new hair style.

Yup, she looks too uptight.

Belinda was hotter as a blonde.

Disagree.

Stephane Dion looks like the dad from the old TV show ALF.

Indeed he does:

http://www.katfm.com/images/80s_nerds/Wille_Tanner.jpg

[jdobbin]

Stephane Dion looks like the dad from the old TV show ALF.

Indeed he does:

http://www.katfm.com/images/80s_nerds/Wille_Tanner.jpg

Harper looks a little like Alfred E. Neuman.

http://www.leconcombre.com/alfred/img2/alf...e_neuman_01.jpg

http://www.lookupalliance.com/images-news/..._stephen-02.jpg

[geoffrey]

Hey, your right. I was going to say the Emperor from Star Wars myself.

http://www.kollectablekaos.com.au/images/emperor_detail1.jpg

http://blog.leapingrabbit.ca/imaged/stephe...per_7-thumb.jpg

[gc1765]

I disagree with both of you. Sorry for getting off topic, but I always thought John Baird looks like Peter Whitmore.

Peter Whitmore

John Baird

[geoffrey]

I disagree with both of you. Sorry for getting off topic, but I always thought John Baird looks like Peter Whitmore.

Peter Whitmore

John Baird

Different eyes.

Oh and sadly Whitmore has better hair.

[Jean_Poutine]

I'd rather vote for Paul Martin than Stephan Dion. So, it'll be the Conservatives for me.

[normanchateau]

Now why would Harper do something so incredibly stupid? It's easy to guess. When he announces the federal budget in February, 2007, he'll announce that he's cutting the personal income tax rate on those who earn the least. He's counting on the voter to be even more stupid than he is.

But the voter is stupid. Judging from Flaherty's record in Ontario and Harper's record so far, they will also:

-provide income-splitting...

-give more beer and popcorn money...

-send some Ralph bucks to everyone...

-come up with 100 new tax credits...

-cut corporate taxes...

-pour billions and billions into Quebec...

-pour more billions into subsidies...

-earmark lots of money for studying how to improve health-care...

-spend more to build more jails...

-give money to some seniors...

-cut the immigration application fee...

The result of all these wonderful initiatives will be:

-lots of votes for the CPC

-a massive hidden deficit that everyone will know about but will not show up on the books until after the following election (when they will be kicked out of government)

-lots of angry voters when they realize that not everyone qualifies for everything

I agree with you completely on the CPC 2007 federal budget plan. Harper saw that big spending worked for Brian Mulroney so he expects it will work for him.

But I'm not as certain as you that the voter is so stupid as to be fooled once again by Harper. Sure Harper will be shoveling money off the back of the truck but because he's not as slick and oily as Mulroney, it'll stick to Harper and perhaps tarnish him irreversibly.

I expect Harper will try to pretend that he's a Red Tory in the next electtion. I noticed that his national campaign chair in the 2006 election was Hugh Segal. Segal of course was Chief of Staff to Brian Mulroney

and now serves as a political strategist to the Conservatives.

It's interesting that in 2005, Paul Martin foolishly appointed Hugh Segal of all people to the Senate. Segal then went on to manage Harper's campaign while drawing a full Senator's salary. Can you imagine Stephen Harper ever appointing an opposition politician to the Senate? One of Harper's first acts was to appoint his close Quebec friend Fortier, the same man who had run his leadership campaign, to the Senate AND a cabinet position. It would not surprise me if Harper got this sleazy idea from Segal or Mulroney since it completely contradicts the 2005 Harper Mr. Clean persona.