scribblet Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 From the NCC Electoral Bias Chief Electoral Officer Jean Pierre Kingsley seems to have two sets of rules; one for the National Citizens Coalition and one for everyone else. A group called Canadian Liberals Acting Against The Climate Crisis, is raising funds on a site --- www.climateliberal.ca --- that features the Liberal Party logo and that seems to operate outside of Canada’s election financing rules. If the NCC, or some other group Kingsley didn’t like, did something similar you better believe the election police would be dispatched in a hurry. Recall Elections Canada once charged the NCC with violating Canada’s election gag laws. Kingsley dragged us through a costly and lengthy criminal trial on charges which were a sham. Kingsley should either enforce election laws equally or resign. Hmmmmm Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Charles Anthony Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 You are complaining about a logo?? From the quoted website: ClimateLiberal.ca is the website of Canadian Liberals Acting Against The Climate Crisis ("CLAACC"). CLAACC is non-profit, independent network of federal Liberal and climate change activists dedicated to making the management of the global climate crisis the number one policy priority of the Liberal Party of Canada and a federal Liberal government in Canada. CLAACC has no official standing within the Liberal Party of Canada, seeks none, and does not purport to represent the policy of the Liberal Party of Canada. Currently, CLAACC is formulating its governance structure, business plan, and network administration protocols. Pursuant to Bill C-24 climateliberal.ca does not take donations for the Liberal Party of Canada or any other political party. Donations are for the sole and express purposes of administering climateliberal.ca Liberal ClimateLeave them be. Other "charities" or "non-profit" organizations rally to support parties all of the time. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
betsy Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 You are complaining about a logo?? From the quoted website: ClimateLiberal.ca is the website of Canadian Liberals Acting Against The Climate Crisis ("CLAACC"). CLAACC is non-profit, independent network of federal Liberal and climate change activists dedicated to making the management of the global climate crisis the number one policy priority of the Liberal Party of Canada and a federal Liberal government in Canada. CLAACC has no official standing within the Liberal Party of Canada, seeks none, and does not purport to represent the policy of the Liberal Party of Canada. Currently, CLAACC is formulating its governance structure, business plan, and network administration protocols. Pursuant to Bill C-24 climateliberal.ca does not take donations for the Liberal Party of Canada or any other political party. Donations are for the sole and express purposes of administering climateliberal.ca Liberal ClimateLeave them be. Other "charities" or "non-profit" organizations rally to support parties all of the time. But why do they have to use the Liberal Party logo? Quote
scribblet Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 ClimateLiberal.ca is the website of Canadian Liberals Acting Against The Climate Crisis ("CLAACC"). CLAACC is non-profit, independent network of federal Liberal and climate change activists dedicated to making the management of the global climate crisis the number one policy priority of the Liberal Party of Canada and a federal Liberal government in Canada. If they are Liberals, then they should come under the rules of third party advertising should they not? Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
jdobbin Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 But why do they have to use the Liberal Party logo? As long as someone doesn't enforce a trademark, they can use it. In this case, it is the Liberal logo. They did have to put up a disclaimer though. The Friend of Science tried to use the University of Calgary logo until they were ordered to cease and desist. The University didn't want to be linked academically to the group. Quote
August1991 Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Leave them be. Other "charities" or "non-profit" organizations rally to support parties all of the time.If they do so during in an election, then it's illegal. The Supreme Court decided so. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 If they do so during in an election, then it's illegal. The Supreme Court decided so.So.... therefore, it must be bad....? In Calgary, businesses are required by law to make available some place where people can tie up their horse. Seriously, if we were in an election right now and somebody tapped into this forum and found a million multiple threads extolling the virtues of the Liberal party (with all of the Global Warming baggage that often comes with it), would you want them to pull out this stupid Supreme Court ruling and shut down this forum??? Come on. It is a stupid ruling. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
geoffrey Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 This group activity promotes the Liberal party. If the NCC can't advertise during an election, neither should these hooligans. Really though, they both should be able to advertise. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Wilber Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 As long as someone doesn't enforce a trademark, they can use it. In this case, it is the Liberal logo. They did have to put up a disclaimer though. If the Liberal Party does not disapprove of them using the logo, the obvious conclusion is that they speak for the Liberal Party. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
hiti Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Actually third party advertising is perfectly okay. It is just limited to $3000 per riding, and the NCC was trying to spend way above that amount. Quote from Elections Canada: The Act regulates election advertising by third parties: groups or persons other than candidates, registered political parties or their riding associations. After spending $500 on advertising that promoted or opposed a party or candidate during the election campaign, third parties had to register with the Chief Electoral Officer. They were allowed to spend up to $150 000 overall, but not more than $3 000 in any single riding, with inflation adjustments; the adjusted limits for this general election were $152 550 and $3 051. If the third party was a group with a governing body (such as a trade union, corporation or other entity), the application for registration had to include a copy of the resolution passed by its governing body authorizing it to incur election advertising expenses. Quote "You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07
geoffrey Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 In what riding does a website exist? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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