Let's not forget what Pope Benidict is...

[Drea]

Oh Yes

Every single homosexual man out there is just waiting for the right opportunity to screw a little boy! Pffffffffffft.

You want to paint all homosexuals as predators....

While heterosexual men are so obsessed with teenagers that they are the most popular porn sites. And it's completely accepted in our society that a grown man would want to screw a teenybopper. (did anyone else see the episode of "House" where the little girl threw herself at him? And he accepted her advances?)

So what is wrong with a gay man wanting to look at (and screw) the tight body of a 16 yo? If it's ok for hetro men, why is it not ok for homo men?

Double standard.

And you are STILL protecting your precious predator pedophile priests!

[betsy]

Oh Yes

Every single homosexual man out there is just waiting for the right opportunity to screw a little boy! Pffffffffffft.

You want to paint all homosexuals as predators....

While heterosexual men are so obsessed with teenagers that they are the most popular porn sites. And it's completely accepted in our society that a grown man would want to screw a teenybopper. (did anyone else see the episode of "House" where the little girl threw herself at him? And he accepted her advances?)

So what is wrong with a gay man wanting to look at (and screw) the tight body of a 16 yo? If it's ok for hetro men, why is it not ok for homo men?

Double standard.

And you are STILL protecting your precious predator pedophile priests!

You were all for lynching the Pope,who didn't do any actual screwing....and here you are hyperventilating just because the sad reality is pointed out that ,yes....pedophiles are not the only predators that had infiltrated the church.

And by your own admission...no problem with a gay screwing the tight body of a 16 year old.

But what about the tight body of a 14 year old? You still think it's okay?

[betsy]

You want to paint all homosexuals as predators....

Double standard.

And you are STILL protecting your precious predator pedophile priests!

Double standard?

See your post above? Those statements clearly speak for themselves.

[Drea]

Where did I mention 14 year olds?

16 is the age of consent is it not?

Your precious church is harbouring and protecting pedophiles. Period. Why can you not admit it? Why must you always turn the debate into "You love homos!" "The homos want our baby boys -- all of them!" Get a grip.

It is not about homosexuality -- it is about perverts preying on children.

And nowhere have I ever said the actual Pope himself was screwing little boys -- but he IS protecting those who have.

The double standard applies because our society thinks it's perfectly acceptable for a 45 yo straight man to want a 16 yo girl, (as in that episode of "House") but it is a problem when it is a 45 yo gay man wanting a 16 yo boy.

tsk tsk tsk.... I shake my head at your convoluted logic.

... and if you want too add to your post, simply edit it instead of posting twice. Like I just did here.

[betsy]

The double standard applies because our society thinks it's perfectly acceptable for a 45 yo straight man to want a 16 yo girl, (as in that episode of "House") but it is a problem when it is a 45 yo gay man wanting a 16 yo boy.

tsk tsk tsk.... I shake my head at your convoluted logic.

What "House?" I don't watch that program...what is it, a sit-com? I hardly watch other shows except the news and MDuffy. Explain about that show please.

[betsy]

The double standard applies because our society thinks it's perfectly acceptable for a 45 yo straight man to want a 16 yo girl,

Who sez it's acceptable to society?

[betsy]

Oh Yes

Every single homosexual man out there is just waiting for the right opportunity to screw a little boy! Pffffffffffft.

You want to paint all homosexuals as predators....

That is what you and the others who think like you...want to use as a valid argument...when they cannot back their statements up.

I hand it to you though...you're more subtle. Others use the "homophobe-card"...or the "bigot-card". That's when you know they've got nothing substantial to say.

[betsy]

While heterosexual men are so obsessed with teenagers that they are the most popular porn sites. And it's completely accepted in our society that a grown man would want to screw a teenybopper. (did anyone else see the episode of "House" where the little girl threw herself at him? And he accepted her advances?)

I would have filled this whole line with guffawing faces if I could!

Are you for real? You musta be kidding me...I mean....c'mon!

An episode of 'House" as your back-up?

I looked it up, it's a medical drama!

It's not even a bleedin' pseudo- talk show like Geraldo or Jerry Springer!

[Drea]

I would have filled this whole line with guffawing faces if I could!

Are you for real? You musta be kidding me...I mean....c'mon!

An episode of 'House" as your back-up?

I looked it up, it's a medical drama!

It's not even a bleedin' pseudo- talk show like Geraldo or Jerry Springer!

What I am saying is that it is acceptable in our society for an older man to desire a much younger woman. I wasn't using it as a "back up" but as an example of this acceptance.

Ok, lets back up shall we?

You are saying that the priest are NOT pedophiles, that they are simply homosexuals.

I am saying they are NOT homosexual, simply pedophiles.

If they were homosexuals they would simply screw each other and leave the boys alone.

You are saying that the Pope is NOT protecting pedophiles, while I say he is protecting pedophiles.

Pedophile predator priests.

How old are choirboys? I don't go to church (gee I wonder why LOL) Are they the age of the majority? Are they men? No, they are boys -- boys who have been predated on by a trusted priest. This is the sickest pedophile of all and yet the church and your precious Pope protect them.

I shake my head at the hypocrisy.

Oh, and I don't ever see those psuedo talk shows like Oprah etal. I, as a modern woman in a modern society, work for a living and don't watch television until the evening

Ps... the edit button is located at the bottom right... click on it and go to quick edit so you don't have to have multiple posts in a row

[betsy]

I would have filled this whole line with guffawing faces if I could!

Are you for real? You musta be kidding me...I mean....c'mon!

An episode of 'House" as your back-up?

I looked it up, it's a medical drama!

It's not even a bleedin' pseudo- talk show like Geraldo or Jerry Springer!

What I am saying is that it is acceptable in our society for an older man to desire a much younger woman. I wasn't using it as a "back up" but as an example of this acceptance.

Ok, lets back up shall we?

You are saying that the priest are NOT pedophiles, that they are simply homosexuals.

I am saying they are NOT homosexual, simply pedophiles.

If they were homosexuals they would simply screw each other and leave the boys alone.

You are saying that the Pope is NOT protecting pedophiles, while I say he is protecting pedophiles.

Pedophile predator priests.

How old are choirboys? I don't go to church (gee I wonder why LOL) Are they the age of the majority? Are they men? No, they are boys -- boys who have been predated on by a trusted priest. This is the sickest pedophile of all and yet the church and your precious Pope protect them.

I shake my head at the hipocracy.

I think you're confused simply because you have not read the exchanges. I suggest YOU back up to get the message straight. I know what I wrote.

I suggest you read from the very beginning. Don't just pick and choose!

[Drea]

I think you're confused simply because you have not read the exchanges. I suggest YOU back up to get the message straight. I know what I wrote.

I suggest you read from the very beginning. Don't just pick and choose!

Sorry but I don't have all day... I've read them once. You said the priest were homos, I said they were pedophiles.

You go ahead and advocate for the cover up the actions of pervert priests all you want. No wonder church attendance has dropped so much in recent years. People are finally beginning to wake up.

[BubberMiley]

Apparently you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Right on, Sharkman. I didn't think you would be so bold as to stand up against human rights abuses like those at Guantanamo Bay and the other U.S. secret prisons. Way to not let your ideology not stand in the way of your values.

[Argus]

Yeah, clearly that's it.

I find it amusing that all you people who love to condemn the church over the very few instances of child abuse then get anguished and indignant if anyone ever suggest that perhaps one of the reasons why there was child abuse was that the Church - short of priests - allowed too many homosexuals into its ranks.

Okay, now's your cue to start waxing indignant about it not being homosexuals at all, and them not abusing children, and my being homophobic, and - - - and --- why Drea, clearly you don't care if homosexuals abuse children.

The priest are pedophiles. Period. Why do you want to protect pedophiles?

First, you don't appear to know what a paedophile is - or how to spell it. Second, why do waste my time posting inane comments like the above?

Third, Paedophilia is a psychological condition, not a sexual orientation. Homosexual paedophiles go after young boys, and heterosexual paedophiles go after young girls.

Why do you want to direct questions away from the homosexual orientation of these priests?

[Argus]

Oh Yes

Every single homosexual man out there is just waiting for the right opportunity to screw a little boy! Pffffffffffft.

Did anyone say that?

You want to paint all homosexuals as predators....

No, but you want to excuse homosexual predators.

While heterosexual men are so obsessed with teenagers that they are the most popular porn sites. And it's completely accepted in our society that a grown man would want to screw a teenybopper.

Done a study of popularity in porn sites, have you? Few adult men are really interested in teenage girls. Most of those who are, only look because of the shape, but wouldn't likely want to actually indulge in sex with them.

So what is wrong with a gay man wanting to look at (and screw) the tight body of a 16 yo? If it's ok for hetro men, why is it not ok for homo men?

It isn't okay for hetero men. And frankly, a grown man screwing a 16 year old would be looked down on by his friends, to say nothing of relatives. On the other hand, there is a sick obsession with young, slender, boyish looking "males" in the homosexual community which has led to some pretty disgusting behaviour with young teenagers. Personally I think its an inner conflict where they're really looking for male bodies and faces which more closely resemble female bodies and faces.

[Argus]

Your precious church is harbouring and protecting pedophiles. Period. Why can you not admit it?

Because I see no evidence this is true. I think the Church once found the very idea so repullsive, and so horrible to even admit that a priest was capable of that sort of thing, that such scandals tended to be brushed under the carpet. The offending priest was moved somewhere else, where it was assumed he would be so chastened by his humliating failure to conquer his inner perversions he'd be safe. It was a silly assumption, but in that day and age, well, society was the same, and looked away from such evidence. But the scandals involving priests are generally old ones, now, as the Church is paying much more attention, and not inclined to look the other way.

[jbg]

What secular society do you live in? I know lefties are wildly out of touch with reality, but I would have thought the number of abuse cases which were ignored and papered over in the secular world would have at least given you a clue that this sort of thing was generally ignored or disbelieved in society for a long time.

I love seeing lefties suddenly in a lather abou perversion.

[betsy]

Oh, and I don't ever see those psuedo talk shows like Oprah etal. I, as a modern woman in a modern society, work for a living and don't watch television until the evening

Ooooooh. Meowwww. All you stay-at-home moms! Get your fat asses from your tv! You ain't " working for a living."

Actually Drea, we've cancelled cable about 15 years ago after realizing that we never used the tv other than watch rental movies. Only got it back sometime last year since it came with a package....and it was election time!

[betsy]

Ps... the edit button is located at the bottom right... click on it and go to quick edit so you don't have to have multiple posts in a row

Oh quit worrying about the button. Instead, use the time re-reading the exchanges. Who knows you might even come up with new ideas to re-butt....all on your own! You won't need "House" to help you out.

Sorry but I still am grinning here.....

...so what's the best episode so far? What channel and sched...maybe I'll try to catch it one of these days.

Every now and then I'd try some shows...but pfffft...can't really get into any of them! I'm into movies!

Btw, do you know homosexuals lisp???

I can prove it! Check out "Life Of Brian"...the Monty Python movie!

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha

[myata]

First, you don't appear to know what a paedophile is - or how to spell it. Second, why do waste my time posting inane comments like the above?

Third, Paedophilia is a psychological condition, not a sexual orientation. Homosexual paedophiles go after young boys, and heterosexual paedophiles go after young girls.

Why do you want to direct questions away from the homosexual orientation of these priests?

Just my two cents. There are reports of homosexual pedofile priests and heterosexual pedofile priests. Surprisingly, both can be defined as pedofile priests.

And BTW your later defence about brushing under the carpet because they were oh so ashamed that they couldn't even admit it is beyond ridiculous.

[betsy]

Where did I mention 14 year olds?

16 is the age of consent is it not?

Your precious church is harbouring and protecting pedophiles. Period. Why can you not admit it? Why must you always turn the debate into "You love homos!" "The homos want our baby boys -- all of them!" Get a grip.

It is not about homosexuality -- it is about perverts preying on children.

And nowhere have I ever said the actual Pope himself was screwing little boys -- but he IS protecting those who have.

The double standard applies because our society thinks it's perfectly acceptable for a 45 yo straight man to want a 16 yo girl, (as in that episode of "House") but it is a problem when it is a 45 yo gay man wanting a 16 yo boy.

Okay enough kidding around. Sorry if I got carried away with my jokes with you.

Now back to our discussion. I'm confused here. Help me out.

Someone who's screwing a 16 year old is not a pedophile, right? Because the age of consent is 16.

But, what about screwing a 14 year old? Do we call the screwer a pedophile or a homosexual? Or both?

[Drea]

The age of consent has to be some age. Why not 16? 14 is too young I agree.

An older person (gay or straight) who has sex with a person of 16 is a pervert, not a pedophile. I no longer watch "House" because the script writers could have written in their that he rejected her, but they didn't. He accepted her advances and in a future episode will **ck her. Yes, he is a pervert, but not a pedophile.

A pedophile is one who desires sex with children. Choir boys are not 16. They still have their "girly voices". Therefore the priest is not a homosexual, but a pedophile.

I can't believe anyone would protect a child predator, even if they are a priest. It's sad really, that parents are putting their kids in harms way when they think they are safe in the church.

That's why the priest pedophile is the worst of all. You folks who go to these churches should be absolutely up in arms. But you choose to sweep it under the rug.

[betsy]

The age of consent has to be some age. Why not 16? 14 is too young I agree.

I think the age of consent here in Canada is now 16...or they are still working on it? I'm not sure if it's already official.

So anyone screwing 15 or 14 year olds...and younger...falls under the category of a pedophile. Do you agree with that?

[Drea]

I'm not sure if it's been changed yet -- I hope so. It was 16 when I was young. I remember being 15 and wanting this one guy soooo bad --he was 21. He would NOT go out with me. I respect him for it now, but I hated him for it then.

No I don't agree that 14 falls under the "pedophile" category. A 14 yo can look like a 20 yo. Many do.

A pedophile wants an undeveloped child's body, not one that looks like an adult's.

As for homosexual men going after 14 yo boys, they are just as sick as the hetro men who go after 14 yo girls. Sickos but not pedophiles.

The straight guy likes the 14 yo girl, not because she has no boobies. But because her boobies are standin' tall.

[betsy]

No I don't agree. A 14 yo can look like a 20 yo. Many do.

A pedophile wants an undeveloped child's body, not one that looks like an adult's.

As for homosexual men going after 14 yo boys, they are just as sick as the hetro men who go after 14 yo girls. Sickos but not pedophiles.

The straight guy likes the 14 yo girl, not because she has no boobies. But because her boobies are standin' tall.

I know that some looks can be deceiving now...especially how girls are all made up and looked so much older than their age! Examples are some fashion models who start as young as 13 or 14. But they look so mature walking down the ramp...you'd never guess they're that young!

And some girls go for older men...and lie about their age!

And I agree whole-heartedly that homosexuals and heterosexuals...who go for 14 year old are both on the same boat. They're sick SOBs!

[betsy]

The straight guy likes the 14 yo girl, not because she has no boobies. But because her boobies are standin' tall.

Some men just find it erotic to initiate an innocent into sex. I think that's the real aphrodisiac for those who want to corrupt minors...not necessarily pedophiles (since the age preference with these sickos are varied that some even violate babies! So I don't know nor can I speculate or guess, what goes in their sick mind).