Reg Volk Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago The Democratic party in the US is being torn apart right now by internal strife. I've heard Joe Biden called all kinds of things, most of which are true, like "idlot", "sleepy", "Dementia Joe" etc, but "Genocide Joe"? That's a new one. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Nationalist Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Reg Volk said: The Democratic party in the US is being torn apart right now by internal strife. I've heard Joe Biden called all kinds of things, most of which are true, like "idlot", "sleepy", "Dementia Joe" etc, but "Genocide Joe"? That's a new one. Yup. The Republicans ain't much better. Tumultuous times. The Republicans are gonna pay for that Iran fiasco. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago Democrat party and the Republican party have a problem with a very strong anti-incumbent sentiment. But the Democrat party is plagued with a LWNJ problem that is emboldened by recent wins. Those recent wins are made possible by moderates vacating lwnj havens like Chicago, NYC and Cali. The general election might go red because the extremes of the Democrat party will push moderates toward the Republicans. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yup. The Republicans ain't much better. Tumultuous times. The Republicans are gonna pay for that Iran fiasco. Iran is going to hurt trump and the politicians that support him, but there is a significant difference. Most of the republicans and their supporters approved of what trump was trying to do in concept. They like the idea of regime change and eliminating the nuclear program in Iran. What they don't like is how absolutely insanely horribly he delivered on that. In other words their problem is with the execution not the very concept itself If trump does the right things and plays the right games he can mitigate a fair bit of that damage and over time it will be forgotten. He just has to get through the midterms I mean there's no guarantee he's going to recover, he would still have to do all the right things. But at least it's doable The democrats the divides seem to be much more ideological and structural. Obama built the great intersectional coalition but as was inevitable as falling apart as each individual group is sick of working for the others and wants things their way and now you've got a tug of war. Right now the democrats really should be walking away with things and yet they're barely Neck and neck with the republic ans. And they seem to becoming a part of the seas Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago Biden isn’t running again. Whomever gets nominated next time, I predict, will be the most leftist radical talking when it comes to this issue. Quote
Nationalist Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Iran is going to hurt trump and the politicians that support him, but there is a significant difference. Most of the republicans and their supporters approved of what trump was trying to do in concept. They like the idea of regime change and eliminating the nuclear program in Iran. What they don't like is how absolutely insanely horribly he delivered on that. In other words their problem is with the execution not the very concept itself If trump does the right things and plays the right games he can mitigate a fair bit of that damage and over time it will be forgotten. He just has to get through the midterms I mean there's no guarantee he's going to recover, he would still have to do all the right things. But at least it's doable The democrats the divides seem to be much more ideological and structural. Obama built the great intersectional coalition but as was inevitable as falling apart as each individual group is sick of working for the others and wants things their way and now you've got a tug of war. Right now the democrats really should be walking away with things and yet they're barely Neck and neck with the republic ans. And they seem to becoming a part of the seas Ya I've noticed that too. Both parties are having internal issues. What gets me is...Trump had the US primed for a huge recovery. Had this Iran lark not happen, the US would already be sewen up. It was a stupid move. 2 minutes ago, User said: Biden isn’t running again. Whomever gets nominated next time, I predict, will be the most leftist radical talking when it comes to this issue. Probably. And that will be worse that Brandon and Trump. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 8 minutes ago, User said: Biden isn’t running again. Whomever gets nominated next time, I predict, will be the most leftist radical talking when it comes to this issue. I wonder. It seems like a significant part of the party is exactly fed up with that kind of thing, and the other half wants it doubled it down. You could very well be absolutely right but I'm not sure that whirlwind has come to and then to just yet it'll be interesting to see what direction they finally go in Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya I've noticed that too. Both parties are having internal issues. What gets me is...Trump had the US primed for a huge recovery. Had this Iran lark not happen, the US would already be sewen up. It was a stupid move It was. Even if there was a good reason behind it which isn't clear to me, but let's face it we don't have all of the info, the execution was absolutely horrid and I feel like a lot of that is trump's fault. It feels like he jumped in without having a clear end game, without a clear understanding of how the Iranians would react and what would happen if they tried to hold out, and he wound up with two fists and a foot in the tar baby while hopping around looking like an incompetent dweeb and it's still not resolved. I don't know if he got bad advice or if he just decided to ignore good advice but either way this was not well thought out. It's just a really bad look, even to those who support the concept. But I wonder how long its legs are? If he can actually find a way to put it to bed which doesn't make him look like a complete dolt He may be able to move on if he can find something else for the public to pay attention to. It may not heard of that bad in the long run but he's got to put this to bed and get the straight open and get inflation back under control Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 6 hours ago, Reg Volk said: The Democratic party in the US is being torn apart right now by internal strife. I've heard Joe Biden called all kinds of things, most of which are true, like "idlot", "sleepy", "Dementia Joe" etc, but "Genocide Joe"? That's a new one. NO one here cares about your Canuck FANTASIES. Quote
CdnFox Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 12 hours ago, robosmith said: NO one here cares about your Canuck FANTASIES. Whereas your canuck fantasy seem to involve hot house zucchini, maple syrup and celine dion playing softly in the background. We've all heard about your 'Veggie grindr" posts. 😖😖😖😖 Edited 2 hours ago by CdnFox 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: It was. Even if there was a good reason behind it which isn't clear to me, but let's face it we don't have all of the info, the execution was absolutely horrid and I feel like a lot of that is trump's fault. It feels like he jumped in without having a clear end game, without a clear understanding of how the Iranians would react and what would happen if they tried to hold out, and he wound up with two fists and a foot in the tar baby while hopping around looking like an incompetent dweeb and it's still not resolved. I don't know if he got bad advice or if he just decided to ignore good advice but either way this was not well thought out. It's just a really bad look, even to those who support the concept. But I wonder how long its legs are? If he can actually find a way to put it to bed which doesn't make him look like a complete dolt He may be able to move on if he can find something else for the public to pay attention to. It may not heard of that bad in the long run but he's got to put this to bed and get the straight open and get inflation back under control Well...I think he'd better pray costs drop like a rock. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
SpankyMcFarland Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago The national mood is turning against America’s peculiar relationship with Israel. On the left and on the right, people are asking why Netanyahu has such disproportionate influence in Washington DC compared to neighbours and why the country is constantly dragged into Middle Eastern wars when China is clearly the main rival to American power. As General Caine is reported to have said about Netanyahu’s case for war in the new book, Regime Change: The Meeting: During a White House meeting, U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Caine, was asked by President Trump for his assessment of Israel's plans regarding Iran. "Overselling": General Caine replied to the President, saying: "Sir, this is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis. They oversell, and their plans are not always well-developed. They know they need us, and that's why they're hard-selling." General's Caution: General Caine had privately urged caution, noting that an extended military campaign or pursuit of full-scale regime change in Iran could deplete U.S. munitions and risk significant U.S. casualties. The Outcome: Ultimately, the sweeping promises for internal Iranian regime change did not materialize, with U.S. and Israeli officials retreating from that initial objective after the military operations proved more complicated than pitched. People are looking at which politicians have taken money from the Israel Lobby and parrot their lines - I’d say that at this stage many Democrats trust Thomas Massie on the subject more than their own leadership in Congress. If America is going to become more transactional with other countries where better to start than with Israel? Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Deluge Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: The national mood is turning against America’s peculiar relationship with Israel. On the left and on the right, people are asking why Netanyahu has such disproportionate influence in Washington DC compared to neighbours and why the country is constantly dragged into Middle Eastern wars when China is clearly the main rival to American power. As General Caine is reported to have said about Netanyahu’s case for war in the new book, Regime Change: The Meeting: During a White House meeting, U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Caine, was asked by President Trump for his assessment of Israel's plans regarding Iran. "Overselling": General Caine replied to the President, saying: "Sir, this is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis. They oversell, and their plans are not always well-developed. They know they need us, and that's why they're hard-selling." General's Caution: General Caine had privately urged caution, noting that an extended military campaign or pursuit of full-scale regime change in Iran could deplete U.S. munitions and risk significant U.S. casualties. The Outcome: Ultimately, the sweeping promises for internal Iranian regime change did not materialize, with U.S. and Israeli officials retreating from that initial objective after the military operations proved more complicated than pitched. People are looking at which politicians have taken money from the Israel Lobby and parrot their lines - I’d say that at this stage many Democrats trust Thomas Massie on the subject more than their own leadership in Congress. If America is going to become more transactional with other countries where better to start than with Israel? It's obvious Israel has us by the balls somehow, but so do other countries like Somalia and Ukraine. What we need to do is expel all foreign influence in our government. Once our government is represented by REAL Americans, we can shutter most of our doors and get busy WITHIN our borders. If a city, state or federal official starts weeping like Emma Lazarus or some other crazy marxist socialist, we immediately remove their asses from office. Quote
CdnFox Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Well...I think he'd better pray costs drop like a rock. Well that's not going to happen until he gets this stupid war sorted out one way or another. I don't think anybody believes him when he says the street is open anymore, it's been open and closed and open and closed a dozen times. Now they're saying there's a deal in place and it'll be open again but honestly if I owned an expensive ship I would not be sending it down the street or news right now Next week's deal will be that they agree to only attack each other and ships on the straight during days with an r in it or some such damn thing "it's friady! Launch!" But if he does clear it up then there's a good chance that has the economy bounces back if it recovers sufficiently people will forget this incident Edited 1 hour ago by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Deluge said: It's obvious Israel has us by the balls somehow, but so do other countries like Somalia and Ukraine. What we need to do is expel all foreign influence in our government. Once our government is represented by REAL Americans, we can shutter most of our doors and get busy WITHIN our borders. If a city, state or federal official starts weeping like Emma Lazarus or some other crazy marxist socialist, we immediately remove their asses from office. How is this obvious? None of what you said is obvious. It’s the conspiratorial garbage you have to go to Candice Owen’s or Tucker Carlson to hear. Quote
Deluge Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, User said: How is this obvious? None of what you said is obvious. It’s the conspiratorial garbage you have to go to Candice Owen’s or Tucker Carlson to hear. No, that's bullshit. Trump has also been kissing Israel's ass, which is why we are also attacking Iran. If Israel can handle this shit by it self, like Ben Shapiro has insisted, why in the hell are we over there in the first place? We have more than enough to do right here in the US. I've heard multiple times that we bombed the shit out of Iran, yet they're still talking smack and calling shots in the Strait. The MOU lasted what, a day? We haven't accomplished a f*cking thing. Iran is run by terrorists. There is no way in hell they should be allowed to have anything but swords and knives - that's it. Edited 1 hour ago by Deluge Quote
Reg Volk Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Edited 1 hour ago by Reg Volk Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Reg Volk Posted 49 minutes ago Author Report Posted 49 minutes ago DSA takeover of this crappy party is almost complete. Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
User Posted 38 minutes ago Report Posted 38 minutes ago 21 minutes ago, Deluge said: No, that's bullshit. Trump has also been kissing Israel's ass, which is why we are also attacking Iran. If Israel can handle this shit by it self, like Ben Shapiro has insisted, why in the hell are we over there in the first place? We have more than enough to do right here in the US. I've heard multiple times that we bombed the shit out of Iran, yet they're still talking smack and calling shots in the Strait. The MOU lasted what, a day? We haven't accomplished a f*cking thing. Iran is run by terrorists. There is no way in hell they should be allowed to have anything but swords and knives - that's it. How is Trump kissing their ass? Trump had been holding them back, criticizing their over reach, had been not picking and making demands on their humanitarian aid efforts, threatening military supplies to leverage Israel to do what we want… We had a mutual interest in seeing Iran not obtain nuclear weapons and not threaten the gulf region with their terror proxies. Saying we have accomplished nothing as we systematically destroyed their navy, a crap ton of their military capabilities to the point we could effectively fly bombing runs at will across their country, burying all nuclear weapons production under rubble or destroying it… is simply absurd. Quote
Deluge Posted 31 minutes ago Report Posted 31 minutes ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, User said: How is Trump kissing their ass? Trump had been holding them back, criticizing their over reach, had been not picking and making demands on their humanitarian aid efforts, threatening military supplies to leverage Israel to do what we want… We had a mutual interest in seeing Iran not obtain nuclear weapons and not threaten the gulf region with their terror proxies. Saying we have accomplished nothing as we systematically destroyed their navy, a crap ton of their military capabilities to the point we could effectively fly bombing runs at will across their country, burying all nuclear weapons production under rubble or destroying it… is simply absurd. By getting involved in their war - giving them our muscle. Trump should've just kept quiet and stayed focused on here. Who was Iran attacking when we started bombing them? The point is, we should have stayed here and let Israel handle it. There is MORE than enough to do here. Edited 30 minutes ago by Deluge Quote
Reg Volk Posted 22 minutes ago Author Report Posted 22 minutes ago Less Israel, more talking about these freaking DSA clowns, that are destroying the western world with their disgusting and stupid regressive policies. "Willing children" - that's as deceptive and sick as the term "gender-affirming care". Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
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