August1991 Posted Wednesday at 02:31 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:31 AM By intervening, you Americans did not help the world in 1917. By intervening, you Americans did not change Europe in 1944. You changed Asia in 1945. After 1945 and prior to 1991, I would say that Americans were successful. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted Wednesday at 02:47 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 02:47 AM Before 1991, Americans had an obvious opponent: Communism, Soviets. As JFK/Reagan said: "We won." Since 1991, American foreign policy is unstable. Quote
eyeball Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM It's been more accurate to describe American foreign policy as geopolitical vandalism ever since 1953 when they began knocking off democratically elected governments starting with Iran's. The ultimate if not inevitable consequences today could be described as Karmic . “A disaster.” A “catastrophe.” The “worst strategic blunder the U.S. has made post-World War II.” Garry Kasparov, the former world chess champion and trenchant geopolitical observer, perhaps said it best: “Trump said he demanded unconditional surrender, we just didn’t know he meant America’s.” Globe and Mail https://archive.ph/rXlk5 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Army Guy Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago On 6/16/2026 at 11:31 PM, August1991 said: By intervening, you Americans did not help the world in 1917. By intervening, you Americans did not change Europe in 1944. You changed Asia in 1945. After 1945 and prior to 1991, I would say that Americans were successful. Your version of history is unsettling.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Michael Hardner Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago On 6/16/2026 at 10:47 PM, August1991 said: Before 1991, Americans had an obvious opponent: Communism, Soviets. As JFK/Reagan said: "We won." Since 1991, American foreign policy is unstable. They won because they out produced everyone, and were able to set an incredible global neoliberal agenda that succeeded until other countries' economies started to catch up. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 40 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Your version of history is unsettling.... The Soviets story of WW2 is under told, because the Western allies had Hollywood to tell their stories. From, Gemini "Allied logistics were undeniably superior—with soldiers receiving luxuries like ice cream, cigarettes, and fresh rations" [ Edited to remove false apocryphal stories of Soviet cannon fodder] Edited 22 hours ago by Michael Hardner Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
SpankyMcFarland Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago (edited) Versailles was beneficial in some ways although hypocritical. Mysteriously, the freedom of nations in the British and French empires was not up for discussion, eg, Ireland and Vietnam. The big error was punishing Germany. That helped deliver a fatal blow to the Weimar Republic. Edited 18 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Army Guy Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 19 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: The Soviets story of WW2 is under told, because the Western allies had Hollywood to tell their stories. From, Gemini "Allied logistics were undeniably superior—with soldiers receiving luxuries like ice cream, cigarettes, and fresh rations" [ Edited to remove false apocryphal stories of Soviet cannon fodder] Lots of old Soviet war films portraying the Russian soldiers as gods of war, some still available on the web.....but you really got to search...the Russian propaganda machine was huge at the time, sure it still is, but not many have made there way over into the west...not much call for Russian movies... With out US manufacturing i think both wars would have had different endings, certainly WWII, Europe would be still a smoking hole in the ground if not for direct US funding, not to mention funding from various other sources....But to say they did not change Europe, is a gross error... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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