Cali Cheating?

[gatomontes99]

DOJ office says ‘multiple’ probes of California elections underway after Trump cries foul.

A federal prosecutor indicated the investigations are focused on the Los Angeles area following President Donald Trump’s claims, without evidence, of cheating in the primaries.

Let the process play out and (if there is cheating) let justice be done. 

[John Johnston]

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

DOJ office says ‘multiple’ probes of California elections underway after Trump cries foul.

A federal prosecutor indicated the investigations are focused on the Los Angeles area following President Donald Trump’s claims, without evidence, of cheating in the primaries.

Let the process play out and (if there is cheating) let justice be done. 

Complete and utter Bullshit. the worst part is you already know that. 

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, John Johnston said:

Complete and utter Bullshit. the worst part is you already know that. 

If there is no cheating than nothing will come of it. So why are you so mad? Is it because you think this will be like a Biden era investigation where they just make shit up? 

[John Johnston]

3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

If there is no cheating than nothing will come of it. So why are you so mad? Is it because you think this will be like a Biden era investigation where they just make shit up? 

You know this is bullshit. What are you posting this crap for? You look foolish. 

Edited 14 hours ago by John Johnston

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Complete and utter Bullshit

Like all your other posts. But you already know that. 

[gatomontes99]

17 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

You know this is bullshit. What are you posting this crap for? You look foolish. 

If it is bullshit, why is NBC the one reporting it? 

Cali is not doing themselves any favors by not reporting Spencer Pratt votes when they report the other two Democrats. it just so happened that Pratt got 0 out of 24,000ish votes? 

Maybe the official excuse of a delay in reporting is valid. Maybe they just didn't think anyone would notice. 

Let the DOJ figure out the truth so we can move on. If they did not cheat, good...great. I truly hope that is the case. But, if they did, then we have to stop it. 

You seem to think that it should NEVER be investigated. Why? What is wrong with stopping voter fraud? 

[robosmith]

55 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

DOJ office says ‘multiple’ probes of California elections underway after Trump cries foul.

A federal prosecutor indicated the investigations are focused on the Los Angeles area following President Donald Trump’s claims, without evidence, of cheating in the primaries.

Let the process play out and (if there is cheating) let justice be done. 

gato LYING as USUAL AKA "without evidence." LMAO

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Like all your other posts. But you already know that. 

^Pure PROJECTION.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

DOJ office says ‘multiple’ probes of California elections underway after Trump cries foul.

A federal prosecutor indicated the investigations are focused on the Los Angeles area following President Donald Trump’s claims, without evidence, of cheating in the primaries.

Let the process play out and (if there is cheating) let justice be done. 

I suppose for people who believe the DOJ exists to hassle and attack people Trump doesn't like, it's perfectly reasonable to investigate anyone he points at, regardless of reasonable suspicion or evidence. 

Don't ask why, just comply. It's his country to do with whatever he wishes. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Hodad

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

If there is no cheating than nothing will come of it. 

Mail-in ballots are the easiest way in the world to cheat on an election. It's been happening since 1864, and people are just better at it now due to the increases in technology, and the more and more impersonal nature of elections. It's just easier to get away with in a mega-city than in a small town for a number of reasons.

And now Demi scammers have over a week in Cali to alter legitimate ballots or create fakes. 

Drones and airplanes can use ground-penetrating radar to see 1-15m underground in most areas, and up to 100 metres through ice and sand. Of course there's technology that can detect what box was checked on the ballot inside of an envelope that's only one millimetre away. So when Demi scammers detect an x where they don't want it, they have a week to 'fix' it.

And here's the thing: as a mail-in voter, you can never find out what candidate your vote actually went to... All you can do is find out if it was counted. You can get all kinds of BS information about where it theoretically is, but if people don't even notice when a magician grabs the watch right off of their wrist, how the hell can they know if the ballot that they put in the mail really got to the end of their street? Or what happened to it at 3am in a warehouse somewhere?

Sure, your ballot allegedly got there, but who did it go to? 

If you look at how much the Dems lie about Russian collusion, J6, mostly peaceful protests, gentle giants, Bidenflation, whipped migrants at the border, kid-cages, "Trump said there were fine people on both sides", the origin of covid, Hunter's laptop, Biden's mental health, the legitimacy of r4pe claims against political candidates/judicial appointees from each party, the Iran war, etc, it's plain to see that there's no low that Demi politicians won't stoop to. 

They still have militias ffs. The SPLC is still funding the KKK for them, but they also have their Antifa and BLM militias in the 2020s. What better way is there to select potential election cheaters than to grab them from the ranks of cultist nazi orgs like Antifa? 

When a person is such a sleaze that they will destroy buildings for a non-gentle criminal giant, or cheer for a bogus r4pe case, do you think that they're above cheating in an election? Of course not. Dems are the slimiest G-d liars and scammers to ever walk the planet, of course they're cheating on the elections. There's a zero percent chance that they're not, just like there's a zero percent chance that congressmen aren't doing insider trading. 

[gatomontes99]

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

gato LYING as USUAL AKA "without evidence." LMAO

About what? NBC is reporting that there is an investigation. So are multiple other sources. 

Are you just saying I am lying because reality causes you discomfort? 

7 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I suppose for people who believe the DOJ exists to hassle and attack people Trump doesn't like, it's perfectly reasonable to investigate anyone he points at, regardless of reasonable suspicion or evidence. 

Don't ask why, just comply. It's his country to do with whatever he wishes. 

I mean, Pratt did get 0 votes in a ballot drop of 20k. Maybe that is something. Maybe not. But that sure seems odd. Why not investigate it? 

[gatomontes99]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

And here's the thing: as a mail-in voter, you can never find out what candidate your vote actually went to... All you can do is find out if it was counted.

That is a feature with good intent. Let's say you could find out who you voted for. So can everyone else. And we know the Dems would use that to take away rights. They are outright saying that anyone that supports MAGA needs to be removed from society. 

But it does create extreme difficulty in determing if fraud exists. Even if you can prove there were fraudulent votes en masse, you still can't prove who the votes benefited and the court cannot issue a remedy. 

The best solution is ensuring the that the votes that are tabulated are legal. That means measures like photo ID and eligibility verification. 

[Hodad]

10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

About what? NBC is reporting that there is an investigation. So are multiple other sources. 

Are you just saying I am lying because reality causes you discomfort? 

I mean, Pratt did get 0 votes in a ballot drop of 20k. Maybe that is something. Maybe not. But that sure seems odd. Why not investigate it? 

A. That's not why they are investigating. The why is Trump. 

B. There is no mystery to solve. You're not even looking at the county vote count, just the AP update process.

Just a regular update

"Since election night in California, a single theory of election fraud has taken root like no other among online conspiracy theorists, bot accounts, conservative influencers and people close to President Trump. It proved to be a simple misreading of the voting data.

Late on election night, an update of vote counts in the Los Angeles mayor’s race appeared on election results pages of various media outlets including the Los Angeles Times. It showed leading Democrats Mayor Karen Bass and Council member Nithya Raman receiving tens of thousands of new votes, and leading Republican former reality TV star Spencer Pratt receiving no new votes.

Some observers of the vote tally immediately took screenshots, with some shouting fraud. Others ran statistical analyses that showed it would be impossible for a candidate such as Pratt — running second in the race — to receive zero votes in such a large batch of ballots

In fact, the update that showed zero Pratt votes was followed one minute later by another update that showed tens of thousands of votes for Pratt, and none for Bass or Raman.

There was no batch of votes that included zero votes for any candidate, as Los Angeles County’s own data show plainly.

But the claim fit into the broader, false narrative being pushed relentlessly by Trump and other Republicans in recent days, that California Democrats were cheating.

Voting data pushed out by the Associated Press came as two separate updates one minute apart, with Bass’ and Raman’s votes in the first and Pratt’s in the second."

 

 

--That thing you read on Twitter was nonsense? Say it ain't so!

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I suppose for people who believe the DOJ exists to hassle and attack people Trump

You already know that the Dems use the DOJ, FBI, IRS to hassle Trump and his associates. They were caught red-handed. 

Everyone knows that the Dems used the DOJ, FBI, IRS to hassle Trump and his associates. They were caught red-handed. 

You can allege that Trump does that all you want, but you don't have the same level of proof, so you're just another Demi weasel running his mouth.

When did the DOJ under Trump start criminal proceedings for a crime that had no solid evidence? 

FYI your slut-hero, E J Carroll, is 100% KNOWN to have said words that were the exact opposite of the truth during her deposition. Letitia James is 100% KNOWN to have committed the same type of fraud that she went after Trump for: she lied on mtg application documents. What is your evidence that the Trump DOJ started an investigation without any legitimate evidence? 

The IRS under Obama was caught. The FBI was caught: one of their agents committed a felony, and many others were caught lying.

The things that Trump is getting hauled to court for are completely farcical, as are the rulings. 

Can you name another case where a man was found guilty of an alleged r4pe from "30 or 31 years ago", with zero witnesses, zero evidence, and an accuser that was caught lying during their deposition? If that's the accepted standard, can't anyone be found guilty? 

E J Caroll can tell a story about you tomorrow, and lie during her deposition, and if she does, then your name will instantly become "Hodad the r4pist". Is that fair? 

Every Dem's favourite story is "a black guy was found guilty of a crime he didn't commit just because of his skin colour!!!"... So now take your own standard for requisite accuser credibility, your own evidentiary requirements, your disdain for minor details like "the year that the zero-evidence crime allegedly occurred", and throw in judges who block the admission of key evidence like "the accuser caught lying during their deposition", and then apply your loose standards to every other trial ever held in the US... You'll suddenly realize that everyone who was ever accused was actually guilty, Hodad. No one could ever be found innocent by your standards. 

[WestCanMan]

30 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

That is a feature with good intent. Let's say you could find out who you voted for. So can everyone else. And we know the Dems would use that to take away rights. They are outright saying that anyone that supports MAGA needs to be removed from society. 

But it does create extreme difficulty in determing if fraud exists. Even if you can prove there were fraudulent votes en masse, you still can't prove who the votes benefited and the court cannot issue a remedy. 

The best solution is ensuring the that the votes that are tabulated are legal. That means measures like photo ID and eligibility verification. 

I'm not saying that the secret ballot isn't important, but guess what: your mail-in ballot isn't secret, is it...

1. your mail-in ballot isn't secret, because other humans had access to it after it was cast
2. you don't know who you voted for

[gatomontes99]

38 minutes ago, Hodad said:

That's not why they are investigating. The why is Trump. 

Proof?

 

39 minutes ago, Hodad said:

There is no mystery to solve. You're not even looking at the county vote count, just the AP update process.

Where do you think the AP gets their data? 

 

40 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Just a regular update

Nothing to see here folks. Just a regular update with no votes for one candidate. Happens all the time. No need to investigate. 

So what if they investigate? If it is all normal, then it is all good. 

Let's say it isn't normal. Then what? 

Well, then you helped hide a crime after the fact. Then millions of voters were suppressed. Then "democracy" was lost. 

In a cost/benefit analysis, is it better to just shrug your shoulders and accept the appearance of impropriety or take a moment to verify the integrity? 

 

[Reg Volk]

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

I suppose for people who believe the DOJ exists to hassle and attack people Trump doesn't like, it's perfectly reasonable to investigate anyone he points at, regardless of reasonable suspicion or evidence. 

Gee...Just like the last POTUS eh?

Buck-up...Im sure you'd agree any efforts to ensure Democracy is served, is a good thing...right?

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You already know that the Dems use the DOJ, FBI, IRS to hassle Trump and his associates. They were caught red-handed. 

Everyone knows that the Dems used the DOJ, FBI, IRS to hassle Trump and his associates. They were caught red-handed. 

You can allege that Trump does that all you want, but you don't have the same level of proof, so you're just another Demi weasel running his mouth.

When did the DOJ under Trump start criminal proceedings for a crime that had no solid evidence? 

FYI your slut-hero, E J Carroll, is 100% KNOWN to have said words that were the exact opposite of the truth during her deposition. Letitia James is 100% KNOWN to have committed the same type of fraud that she went after Trump for: she lied on mtg application documents. What is your evidence that the Trump DOJ started an investigation without any legitimate evidence? 

The IRS under Obama was caught. The FBI was caught: one of their agents committed a felony, and many others were caught lying.

The things that Trump is getting hauled to court for are completely farcical, as are the rulings. 

Can you name another case where a man was found guilty of an alleged r4pe from "30 or 31 years ago", with zero witnesses, zero evidence, and an accuser that was caught lying during their deposition? If that's the accepted standard, can't anyone be found guilty? 

E J Caroll can tell a story about you tomorrow, and lie during her deposition, and if she does, then your name will instantly become "Hodad the r4pist". Is that fair? 

Every Dem's favourite story is "a black guy was found guilty of a crime he didn't commit just because of his skin colour!!!"... So now take your own standard for requisite accuser credibility, your own evidentiary requirements, your disdain for minor details like "the year that the zero-evidence crime allegedly occurred", and throw in judges who block the admission of key evidence like "the accuser caught lying during their deposition", and then apply your loose standards to every other trial ever held in the US... You'll suddenly realize that everyone who was ever accused was actually guilty, Hodad. No one could ever be found innocent by your standards. 

Too bad you have ZERO LEGAL EXPERTISE HERE and so your amateur LEGAL OPINIONS MEAN NOTHING beyond you're ILLEGALLY practicing LAW WIHOUT A LICENSE.

There's a reason you almost always hear legal opinions prefaced with "I'm NOT A LAWYER" when they ARE NOT.

 

[Legato]

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Too bad you have ZERO LEGAL EXPERTISE HERE and so your amateur LEGAL OPINIONS MEAN NOTHING beyond you're ILLEGALLY practicing LAW WIHOUT A LICENSE.

There's a reason you almost always hear legal opinions prefaced with "I'm NOT A LAWYER" when they ARE NOT.

 

Do you know what caught red handed means.

Pro-Tip:-  it has nothing to do with law or ers or licenses or opining.

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, Legato said:

Do you know what caught red handed means.

Pro-Tip:-  it has nothing to do with law or ers or licenses or opining.

Don't mind robo...I think he's got his period right now.

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You already know that the Dems use the DOJ, FBI, IRS to hassle Trump and his associates. They were caught red-handed. 

Everyone knows that the Dems used the DOJ, FBI, IRS to hassle Trump and his associates. They were caught red-handed. 

You can allege that Trump does that all you want, but you don't have the same level of proof, so you're just another Demi weasel running his mouth.

When did the DOJ under Trump start criminal proceedings for a crime that had no solid evidence? 

FYI your slut-hero, E J Carroll, is 100% KNOWN to have said words that were the exact opposite of the truth during her deposition. Letitia James is 100% KNOWN to have committed the same type of fraud that she went after Trump for: she lied on mtg application documents. What is your evidence that the Trump DOJ started an investigation without any legitimate evidence? 

The IRS under Obama was caught. The FBI was caught: one of their agents committed a felony, and many others were caught lying.

The things that Trump is getting hauled to court for are completely farcical, as are the rulings. 

Can you name another case where a man was found guilty of an alleged r4pe from "30 or 31 years ago", with zero witnesses, zero evidence, and an accuser that was caught lying during their deposition? If that's the accepted standard, can't anyone be found guilty? 

E J Caroll can tell a story about you tomorrow, and lie during her deposition, and if she does, then your name will instantly become "Hodad the r4pist". Is that fair? 

Every Dem's favourite story is "a black guy was found guilty of a crime he didn't commit just because of his skin colour!!!"... So now take your own standard for requisite accuser credibility, your own evidentiary requirements, your disdain for minor details like "the year that the zero-evidence crime allegedly occurred", and throw in judges who block the admission of key evidence like "the accuser caught lying during their deposition", and then apply your loose standards to every other trial ever held in the US... You'll suddenly realize that everyone who was ever accused was actually guilty, Hodad. No one could ever be found innocent by your standards. 

🥱Meanwhile, back in reality, I'll remind you that the case you've worked so hard to convince yourself is impossible, has won 2 trials with unanimous jury verdicts and has won twice on appeal.

Keep copying and pasting your debunked list of grievances though. I'm sure it's convincing sometime.  

[Legato]

[Fluffypants]

I guess Newscum hit that emergency switch that he was talking about. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Proof?

 

Where do you think the AP gets their data? 

 

Nothing to see here folks. Just a regular update with no votes for one candidate. Happens all the time. No need to investigate. 

So what if they investigate? If it is all normal, then it is all good. 

Let's say it isn't normal. Then what? 

Well, then you helped hide a crime after the fact. Then millions of voters were suppressed. Then "democracy" was lost. 

In a cost/benefit analysis, is it better to just shrug your shoulders and accept the appearance of impropriety or take a moment to verify the integrity? 

 

Holy shit. It was a 47 second delay on an AP dashboard, nothing to do with the actual vote count even.

Was it evidence of Republican cheating when Pratt got a big batch of votes and bass got zero? 

This is just asinine.

It's a dumb non-issue, and everybody knows it. And you're still going to pretend this is suspicious or merits government resources for an investigation? You'll make yourself look ridiculous for Trump? Where is your dignity?

Edited 8 hours ago by Hodad

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Gee...Just like the last POTUS eh?

Buck-up...Im sure you'd agree any efforts to ensure Democracy is served, is a good thing...right?

Lying to undermine confidence in our electoral system is not an effort to preserve democracy. It's the same tired playbook that Trump used to prime the J6 crazies and lay the groundwork for his attempted coup. 

As always, traitor Trump puts his own interests ahead of the people.