paxamericana Posted June 1 Report Posted June 1 (edited) Not sure they had a long enough time out but Canada is feeling the pressure of their 18 months separation from America. Sliding into recession. Hopefully, this becomes a lesson learned to do as told and quit snorting that Chinesium. Edited June 1 by paxamericana Quote
Goober National Posted June 2 Report Posted June 2 Just wait till the maple syrup comes in this year. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 Actually, even more tariffs are being threatened by our deranged neighbours, allegedly because of forced labour products creating an uneven playing field: Quote The US trade representative, Jamieson Greer, said: “The failure of our most important trading partners to address the importation of goods made with forced labor is unacceptable. This creates a dynamic where American workers are forced to compete globally on an unlevel playing field. We will no longer tolerate this disparity.” Trump threatens tariffs on 60 trading partners including UK and Canada over ‘forced labour’ https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jun/03/trump-threatens-tariffs-60-countries-forced-labour Proposal for 10-12.5% levies, to also include EU, Taiwan and Australia, would allow US president to skirt court-imposed limits Is Mr Greer aware of the hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers in the US agriculture sector and the effect on the playing field they have? 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 We'll see. A lot of Americans have been suffering due to that trade war as well and I think if it's still going on by the midterms trump could wind up paying a significant price for it 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
paxamericana Posted June 3 Author Report Posted June 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: We'll see. A lot of Americans have been suffering due to that trade war as well and I think if it's still going on by the midterms trump could wind up paying a significant price for it Trump isn't on the ballot. You know this would be easier if you all just cry uncle and petition for statehood yeah? Edited June 3 by paxamericana Quote
CdnFox Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: Trump isn't on the ballot. Of course trump is on the ballot. What a mind meltingly stupid thing to say. He's going to be the main ballot box question. And worse he can lose big. If the dems turn about 20 seats in the senate and even a couple in the house then there will be enough votes to actually impeach trump and the dems won't wait one single second before starting that process. Trump may well get tossed like a stale big mac long before his term ends if things don't go well for him in the midterms. 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: You know this would be easier if you all just cry uncle and petition for statehood yeah? The thing that really highlights your stupidity is that if you knew ANYTHING.. no it wouldn't. Canada would basically vote about the same as California. Which means more senators and more reps most of whom would be happy to impeach trump. And good luck getting a republican elected. Kid. if you knew half as much as you think you know, you'd still know twice as much as you actually know. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
SpankyMcFarland Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 Americans wouldn’t be getting their milk without all the undocumented workers in that sector and yet Trump a) promises to send all these people home and b) demands that we accept more of this illegally-produced product. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Americans wouldn’t be getting their milk without all the undocumented workers in that sector and yet Trump a) promises to send all these people home and b) demands that we accept more of this illegally-produced product. Of course they would. Well it's a common belief on the left that it is necessary to maintain slave labor in the states to guarantee a food supply it's simply not true. After a time of adjustment it would cope just fine. We don't have hordes of illegal immigrant workers working for below minimum wage and we have milk. It's a crazy thing to say 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 18 hours ago, paxamericana said: Trump isn't on the ballot. Oh it's so cute that you think that. 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted June 4 Author Report Posted June 4 27 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Oh it's so cute that you think that. It’s factually true. While it’s fair to say inflation is on the ballot, that hasn’t answered the question of who is going to do a better job. Democrats don’t have a proposal other than orange man bad. 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: the dems turn about 20 seats in the senate and even a couple in the house then there will be enough votes to actually impeach trump and the dems won't wait one single second before starting that process. And do what? Get JD Vance for president? Clearly they don’t have a deep state inside man like VP pence that would be their new puppet. Serves no purpose. Quote
CdnFox Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: It’s factually true. No it's more like it's technically true but in reality not so much 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: While it’s fair to say inflation is on the ballot, that hasn’t answered the question of who is going to do a better job. That's not Going to be the ballot question. The ballot question will be do we want trump in charge or do we want other legislators in charge. This is kind of why we see most governments lose control of the house or the senate or both in the midterms. Public tens to want to temper their power Unlike most presidencies however the democrats will waste exactly zero seconds if they get enough power to actually impeach trump before doing so Managed to get control of the house and 66% of the senate trump will be gone. And right now in a lot of the races dissatisfaction with trump is putting that possibility on the table It would be entirely wrong to say that he's definitely going to lose or anything remotely close to that but it is a very real possibility and what happens between now and November will play a big role Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nefarious Banana Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 paxamericana . . . would you like some 'Canadian bacon' ? 1 Quote
John Stone Posted June 5 Report Posted June 5 It should be mentioned (obvious) that impeachment no longer carries the political embarrassment it once did. It has become more of a partisan weapon ........ and that is how the public today perceives it. It's basically not worth the squeeze. The last time the Senate voted 2/3 majority was about 65 years ago. ........ so if removal is the objective? Forget it! If the Dem's threaten impeachment before the Midterms, their strategy is about as fk'd as the 'Charge of the Light Brigade" Quote
CdnFox Posted June 5 Report Posted June 5 2 hours ago, John Stone said: It should be mentioned (obvious) that impeachment no longer carries the political embarrassment it once did. It has become more of a partisan weapon ........ and that is how the public today perceives it. I don't think you understand impeachment fully. While it is technically true that if the articles of impeachment are accepted by the house the president is 'impeached', that is only stage one of the process. Once the house impeaches someone the senate holds a trial. If the person loses that trial, they are REMOVED from office So if the senate is controlled by the dems, impeachment suddenly is a whole lot more than a slap on the wrists. If the democrats get enough seats in the senate and they won't just be embarrassing trump, they will be throwing them out the door. That is the risky faces Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted June 5 Report Posted June 5 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I don't think you understand impeachment fully. While it is technically true that if the articles of impeachment are accepted by the house the president is 'impeached', that is only stage one of the process. Once the house impeaches someone the senate holds a trial. If the person loses that trial, they are REMOVED from office So if the senate is controlled by the dems, impeachment suddenly is a whole lot more than a slap on the wrists. If the democrats get enough seats in the senate and they won't just be embarrassing trump, they will be throwing them out the door. That is the risky faces Impeachment is a political process, begins in the House ..........yes it is the first step for removal of a president. A simple majority is req'd in the House to Impeach - stage 1 The Article of Impeachment then moves to the Senate for the 'Trial' ........a conviction requires (providing 100 senates are present) 67 Senators voting in favor of removal. Safe to say it would need to be a bi-partisan vote. The last time that number of Senators voted in favor of anything was almost 70 years ago.. Quote
CdnFox Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 6 hours ago, John Stone said: Impeachment is a political process, begins in the House ..........yes it is the first step for removal of a president. I love that you just repeat what i just educated you on and somehow pretend you're telling me Yes kid. That is what i said. Quote A simple majority is req'd in the House to Impeach - stage 1 Yes kid, that is what i said Quote The Article of Impeachment then moves to the Senate for the 'Trial' . Yes kid, that is what i said Quote .......a conviction requires (providing 100 senates are present) 67 Senators voting in favor of removal. A 2/3rds vote. Yes kid, that is what i said Quote Safe to say it would need to be a bi-partisan vote. not necessarily. Currently the senate is very close to 50 50. If about 20ish seats flip in the midterms, which is possible, then the dems would have the required vote. Now it would be hard to flip them all but it is possible. There's 22 republican senate seats up for grabs. IF they're short a few votes, then and only then would they have to attract those votes from the other side. And it might not be all that hard to find a handful that are mad enough at trump to consider it. also not everyone can show up for every vote. So they COULD do it on their own. or more likely they could come so close that they only need a few more to make it fly, and that's pretty doable right now. Many republicans are not entirely happy with trump. I suspect many wouldn't mind seeing JD take over. So it's a real threat that trump needs to consider. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: I love that you just repeat what i just educated you on and somehow pretend you're telling me Yes kid. That is what i said. Yes kid, that is what i said Yes kid, that is what i said A 2/3rds vote. Yes kid, that is what i said not necessarily. Currently the senate is very close to 50 50. If about 20ish seats flip in the midterms, which is possible, then the dems would have the required vote. Now it would be hard to flip them all but it is possible. There's 22 republican senate seats up for grabs. IF they're short a few votes, then and only then would they have to attract those votes from the other side. And it might not be all that hard to find a handful that are mad enough at trump to consider it. also not everyone can show up for every vote. So they COULD do it on their own. or more likely they could come so close that they only need a few more to make it fly, and that's pretty doable right now. Many republicans are not entirely happy with trump. I suspect many wouldn't mind seeing JD take over. So it's a real threat that trump needs to consider. ............. if that was schooling I fear for ur teachers.😅 Flip 20 seats? Congrats on graduating from the school of make believe. Quote
John Stone Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 (edited) 13 minutes ago, John Stone said: 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: I love that you just repeat what i just educated you on and somehow pretend you're telling me Yes kid. That is what i said. Yes kid, that is what i said Yes kid, that is what i said A 2/3rds vote. Yes kid, that is what i said not necessarily. Currently the senate is very close to 50 50. If about 20ish seats flip in the midterms, which is possible, then the dems would have the required vote. Now it would be hard to flip them all but it is possible. There's 22 republican senate seats up for grabs. IF they're short a few votes, then and only then would they have to attract those votes from the other side. And it might not be all that hard to find a handful that are mad enough at trump to consider it. also not everyone can show up for every vote. So they COULD do it on their own. or more likely they could come so close that they only need a few more to make it fly, and that's pretty doable right now. Many republicans are not entirely happy with trump. I suspect many wouldn't mind seeing JD take over. So it's a real threat that trump needs to consider. if that was schooling then I have pity for ur teachers. 😅 Flip 20 seats? I might agree that CONTROL of the Senate MIGHT be a toss-up. U sir are dreaming in technicolor. Edited June 6 by John Stone Quote
eyeball Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 14 hours ago, John Stone said: It should be mentioned (obvious) that impeachment no longer carries the political embarrassment it once did. It'll be way more like a badge of honour to Trumpies and future wannabes. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: It'll be way more like a badge of honour to Trumpies and future wannabes. Likely Trump is concerned re: impeachment - but not because he expects removal which remains HIGHLY unlikely, but because he sees impeachment as a political threat that could damage his power thru the weakening GOP unity. Quote
CdnFox Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 2 hours ago, John Stone said: if that was schooling then I have pity for ur teachers. 😅 the guy who spells "your" as UR has pitty on my teachers Also everything i just taught you was correct, and you just repeated it back to me insisting it was correct LOLOL Never mind pity, your teachers should be brought up on child abuse charges Quote Flip 20 seats? I might agree that CONTROL of the Senate MIGHT be a toss-up. "I've ALMOST learned to do math" - John . Well that's good Most of the republicans are retiring this year. Many of the other seats are weak. There is a real threat they could flip if there is a strong backlash against trump. Certainly there is a very real possibility that enough could that the few remaining votes necessary would be found across the isle, either from people who decide they don't like trump anymore and will vote against him or even some who may just not show up for that vote and let the other guys win. That's not a prediction, it's just a reality that trump will have to keep in mind. And if trump has taught you anything at all little man it should be that in american politics ANYTHING is possible Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: the guy who spells "your" as UR has pitty on my teachers Also everything i just taught you was correct, and you just repeated it back to me insisting it was correct LOLOL Never mind pity, your teachers should be brought up on child abuse charges "I've ALMOST learned to do math" - John . Well that's good Most of the republicans are retiring this year. Many of the other seats are weak. There is a real threat they could flip if there is a strong backlash against trump. Certainly there is a very real possibility that enough could that the few remaining votes necessary would be found across the isle, either from people who decide they don't like trump anymore and will vote against him or even some who may just not show up for that vote and let the other guys win. That's not a prediction, it's just a reality that trump will have to keep in mind. And if trump has taught you anything at all little man it should be that in american politics ANYTHING is possible Think of me as ur quality control, dude. 😅 True, anything is possible ...........even u being right on anything? bwahahahahahah ur conscious-ignorance is becoming boring.... boring.... boring....lol Quote
CdnFox Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 2 hours ago, John Stone said: no comment? Just liked what i said so much you wanted to put it out there again? 27 minutes ago, John Stone said: Think of me as ur quality control, dude. 😅 I can certainly think of you as a defective reject Quote True, anything is possible; You spend a lot of time pointing out what i just said to you was correct Quote ur conscious-ignorance is becoming boring.... boring.... boring....lol well i'm sure that the average slug would have found einstein boring. And that's about the same intelligence gap between you and me so... Also, you really suck at insults kid. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
SpankyMcFarland Posted Monday at 04:23 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:23 PM (edited) On 6/3/2026 at 6:03 PM, CdnFox said: Of course they would. Well it's a common belief on the left that it is necessary to maintain slave labor in the states to guarantee a food supply it's simply not true. After a time of adjustment it would cope just fine. We don't have hordes of illegal immigrant workers working for below minimum wage and we have milk. It's a crazy thing to say Do you want to be covered in dung all day at your place of work? Maybe you do but you must admit it’s a niche preference. If Americans got all the milk they are getting now through documented, legal workers, highly unlikely, it would cost far, far more. Just read what US dairy farmers will admit to about their product. Again, it’s like our Canadian outback. There are things and places that are intrinsically difficult to recruit for. That is the real world which I thought conservatives want us to stay in touch with. Here’s an AI overview from Mr. Google: Quote The U.S. dairy industry is heavily dependent on immigrant labor, with undocumented workers making up an estimated 51% of all dairy farm workers nationwide. More importantly, farms employing these workers produce nearly 80% of the total U.S. milk supply, making them vital to the country's food supply chain. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Because cows must be milked every day—making it a year-round operation rather than a seasonal one—farmers cannot use traditional agricultural guest worker visas (H-2A), which are restricted to temporary or seasonal jobs. This structural gap in U.S. immigration policy has forced the industry to rely on undocumented employees, predominantly from Mexico and Central America, to fill essential roles. [1, 2, 3] Why the Reliance Exists No Year-Round Visas: There are no legal pathways for year-round agricultural workers, leaving dairy farmers without viable legal alternatives. [1, 2] Labor Shortages: Despite offering competitive wages, most dairy operations struggle to find native-born Americans willing to perform physically demanding and remote farm work. [1] Economic Scale: The vast majority of large, highly productive dairy operations—especially in states like Wisconsin, Idaho, and New York—depend on this immigrant workforce to keep operations running 24/7.[1, 2, 3, 4] Industry Vulnerabilities Legal and Workplace Inconsistencies: Because of their undocumented status, many of these workers miss out on standard labor protections and overtime pay, and often face dangerous working conditions.[1] Mass Deportation Risks: With increased immigration enforcement and the threat of mass deportations, the dairy industry faces extreme vulnerability. A sudden loss of these workers would cause severe labor shortages and drastically increase the price of milk. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Drastically increase the price of milk. Let’s see Americans level the playing field with legal workers before they demand even more access to our market. Edited Monday at 04:34 PM by SpankyMcFarland Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted Monday at 04:55 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:55 PM 28 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Do you want to be covered in dung all day at your place of work? You mean like a proctologist? I hear they make good money But I love that you think all farmers are covered in dung all day 29 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Maybe you do but you must admit it’s a niche preference. We have special programs for temporary agricultural workers. But in this day and age there are machines and there are Ways of doing things and if the staff wasn't available farmers would be forced to adopt them. And in the long run it would actually save money 30 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: If Americans got all the milk they are getting now through documented, legal workers, highly unlikely, it would cost far, far more. Absolutely untrue. Canada we produce more than enough milk for our own needs without that kind of nonsense. And if you remove the government subsidies on milk production in the united states our costs are not significantly higher if we were operating under the same rules they were I mean this is the same argument that cotton farmers made with regards to slaves back in the day So I'm sorry but I complete swing and a miss. You're literally arguing that America specifically and presumably Canada by extension requires the use of slave labor to survive. That is not true. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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