Are Canadians actually cold weather Americans?

[paxamericana]

What the hell is a Canadian anyways?

Edited May 12 by paxamericana

[Legato]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

What the hell is a Canadian anyways?

eh?

[John Johnston]

Canadians don't hate everybody. Canadians live and let live. That is the biggest difference. 

Something All Y'all don't get. Whatever. 

[paxamericana]

4 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Canadians don't hate everybody. Canadians live and let live. That is the biggest difference. 

Something All Y'all don't get. Whatever. 

Claude AI says you’re all a bunch of hungry hungry hypocrites. And if you disagree, quit watching American TV show all winter go do some Canadian thing you call hockey… oh wait.
 

“The Irony
The Toronto urbanite is probably more vocally insistent that Canada is distinct from America, yet lives a life saturated in American media, works in a continental economy, and shops at the same chains. The Albertan may be less ideologically invested in Canadian distinctness, yet their community fabric — church, land, resource work, tight-knit small towns — is in some ways more locally rooted and less cosmopolitan than Toronto.
So the relationship with American identity ends up being almost inverted from what you’d expect: the person loudest about Canadian distinctness is most integrated into a globalized North American lifestyle, while the person most culturally similar to Americans is often least bothered by the comparison.“

Edited May 12 by paxamericana

[John Johnston]

4 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Claude AI says you’re all a bunch of hungry hungry hypocrites. And if you disagree, quit watching American TV show all winter go do some Canadian thing you call hockey… oh wait.
 

“The Irony
The Toronto urbanite is probably more vocally insistent that Canada is distinct from America, yet lives a life saturated in American media, works in a continental economy, and shops at the same chains. The Albertan may be less ideologically invested in Canadian distinctness, yet their community fabric — church, land, resource work, tight-knit small towns — is in some ways more locally rooted and less cosmopolitan than Toronto.
So the relationship with American identity ends up being almost inverted from what you’d expect: the person loudest about Canadian distinctness is most integrated into a globalized North American lifestyle, while the person most culturally similar to Americans is often least bothered by the comparison.“

America's Democracy is on life support. Ours is not. 

[paxamericana]

15 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

America's Democracy is on life support. Ours is not. 

You mean the democracy that democratically elected orange man, twice!? Oh don’t like it? Guess it’s not a democracy then is how it works? America is a constitutional republic not a mob rule. You do know the silent majority isn’t swayed by the CBC yeah? 

Edited May 12 by paxamericana

[John Johnston]

15 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

You mean the democracy that democratically elected orange man, twice!? Oh don’t like it? Guess it’s not a democracy then is how it works? America is a constitutional republic not a mob rule. You do know the silent majority isn’t swayed by the CBC yeah? 

Nobody said Americans were smart now did they? Now all y'all are suffering from buyers remorse. More importantly, the world suffers. That is on us for being so dumb as to think and believe all the crap they have telling us for the last 80 years. Now there will definitely be a change in our thinking. 

https://protectdemocracy.org/work/retaliatory-action-tracker/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeting_of_political_opponents_and_civil_society_under_the_second_Trump_administration

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/when_dissent_becomes_a_crime_the_war_on_political_speech_begins

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/29/nx-s1-5327518/donald-trump-100-days-retribution-threats

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-retribution-tracker/

And the list is endless. 

[August1991]

We have homeless people in Montreal on streets, in tents in July.

Tents, very few in January. None on streets.

[paxamericana]

On 5/13/2026 at 12:46 AM, August1991 said:

We have homeless people in Montreal on streets, in tents in July.

Tents, very few in January. None on streets.

And somehow we have a bunch of “Canadians” in Florida. Look I get it, you don’t want to shovel snow any more. Which, at some point you have to ask yourself, am I just an American then? The answer is yes. @Zeitgeist

Edited Wednesday at 01:05 PM by paxamericana

[Nationalist]

On 5/12/2026 at 10:03 AM, paxamericana said:

What the hell is a Canadian anyways?

I can't vote pax. You should have included a "sort of" choice.

Canada is both its own culture AND a "sister" of Americana. 

Most of Canada...geographicly speaking...has a respect and a sort of kinsmanship with Americans. Especially West of Quebec. A province that...lol...frankly the USA should not set any designs on. 

The cultures are inexorably intertwined by our historical relationship. But "Canadiana" is a thing. From Les Quebecois to the still remaining British Loyalists. Canada...as a matter of necessity...has had to learn to cooperate and make compromises in order to maintain social cohesion. We are...by nature of our national identity...less power hungry than our capitalist brothers south of us. We were not born of revolutionary war, but of cooperation and compromise. 

Our...diplomatic nature...is certainly not ideal in some cases. As exemplified by the utter flop of our last PM and, of course,  ol' "Elbows Up" carney. But that faux pas aside...

The proper answer is..."sort of".

[Nationalist]

On 5/12/2026 at 5:45 PM, John Johnston said:

America's Democracy is on life support. Ours is not. 

Well this is just chickenshit.

Why do you insist on making such id1otic statements? Really Johnny...seek help.

You have anger issues. 

[John Johnston]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well this is just chickenshit.

Why do you insist on making such id1otic statements? Really Johnny...seek help.

You have anger issues. 

And your Idol Trump just Trumped his own Party once again. America in general will be on life support if this man continues to destroy everything around him like a little baby having a tamper tantrum. But whatever, America wanted it, so they got it, in spades. 

Am I angry that a bunch of lunatics and flakes, including a pedo supporter and criminal have taken the world economy hostage because he has zero knowledge how the real world works? You bet I'm angry, only a complete idi0t would not be pissed off. 

Read something for a change. 

 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, John Johnston said:

And your Idol Trump just Trumped his own Party once again. America in general will be on life support if this man continues to destroy everything around him like a little baby having a tamper tantrum. But whatever, America wanted it, so they got it, in spades. 

Am I angry that a bunch of lunatics and flakes, including a pedo supporter and criminal have taken the world economy hostage because he has zero knowledge how the real world works? You bet I'm angry, only a complete idi0t would not be pissed off. 

Read something for a change. 

 

I read lots. And then I decide if what I've read, makes sense. If it doesn't, I file it away under "G" for garbage.

For instance...I read that the carney was the only one available in the last federal election, who could deal with Trump. "Elbows Up". Knowing something of the carney's business relations with the Trump family, I was rather skeptical. As it turns out, my skepticism was well founded and that bit of silliness was filed under "G".

But I do acknowledge your TDS, and would extend my sympathies. I understand how it can be debilitating to rational thought processes.

[Zeitgeist]

15 hours ago, paxamericana said:

And somehow we have a bunch of “Canadians” in Florida. Look I get it, you don’t want to shovel snow any more. Which, at some point you have to ask yourself, am I just an American then? The answer is yes. @Zeitgeist

As discussed, Canada’s sovereignty can’t be on the table, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a way to essentially allow Americans and Canadians to live and work in each other’s countries, respecting local laws and customs.  There would have to be a minimum residency length to draw public benefits, that kind of thing. So for a time foreign residents would pay into private insurance.

This is the kind of arrangement that Carney and Trump should seek.  Instead of trying to turn Canada into America, let Americans have the option of living as Canadians and vice versa.  I think it would be the best scenario for both countries, because each country is better at certain things, but in some cases you can’t enjoy certain Canadian benefits without giving up some American ones and the opposite is also true. The point of trade and unions is to maximize opportunities and options.

I think the citizens of each country envy the other country in certain ways.  America provides more economic opportunity but also greater danger.  I think some people are better suited to one way than the other, so country of origin shouldn’t prevent people from choosing the system that works best for them.  Over time the countries can adopt effective practices from each other and much duplication of departments and regulations can be reduced.  It means letting go of some protectionist trade policies in exchange for huge upside synergies.  Canada has the energy, resources, educated population, safety, and stable financial institutions.  The US has the larger market and economy of scale, as well as shorter winters. Why not give people on both sides of the border the ability to choose which side to live and work on for as long as they want?

Edited yesterday at 04:17 AM by Zeitgeist

[paxamericana]

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

let Americans have the option of living as Canadians and vice versa.

We don't want to live there. It's only for visiting the cousins. 

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

greater danger.

of a impolite driver during rush hour yes.

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada’s sovereignty can’t be on the table,

can and is on the table. Has been that way since the founding of what ever "Canada" is.  You do realize the dominoes will fall eventually. The geopolitical gravity pulls one way -> statehood. 

[Zeitgeist]

7 hours ago, paxamericana said:

We don't want to live there. It's only for visiting the cousins. 

of a impolite driver during rush hour yes.

can and is on the table. Has been that way since the founding of what ever "Canada" is.  You do realize the dominoes will fall eventually. The geopolitical gravity pulls one way -> statehood. 

The U.S. is less safe and more polarized.  As a society, Canada functions more peacefully and harmoniously.  I just don’t like some of our creepy social experiments with MAID, DEI, and indoctrination on gender diversity and lifestyle choices.  Canada has to get back to its roots.  The US is ahead on that.  If many Americans don’t like the long winters here, many of them appreciate the nature in the other seasons, the resources, and the relative safety.  In any event, it’s worth it to most Canadians to keep their sovereignty, even if that means a bit less opportunity and money.  The US is on the hunt for cheap resources and new markets to offset its outrageous debt.  My guess is that Canada will resume its pretty high immigration levels, but with more care and attention to national goals.  I don’t think enough thought has gone into what defines us as a distinct nation, what our goals are and should be, as well as what price we’re willing to pay to maintain that that distinct purpose.  We may realize that it isn’t distinct enough from the US’s to justify the expense, but seeing the price Canadians have been willing to pay in the past and current levels of anger over our treatment on trade and 51st state rhetoric from the US, I don’t see any kind of merger taking place with the US anytime soon.  The gradual backdoor way is through an EU type arrangement, but the current US administration doesn’t seem to know how to use soft power to finesse integration.  Obviously in any kind of union the US would dominate.  Now that Canadians are hyper-sensitized to that, they’re draping themselves in the maple leaf and seeking greater independence.  Go figure.  

[paxamericana]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The US is on the hunt for cheap resources and new markets to offset its outrageous debt.

World currency reserve means we can print more money. No need to offload debt.

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

My guess is that Canada will resume its pretty high immigration levels,

Yes, definitely

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

but with more care and attention to national goals

No, you don't have one, you're Canadian.

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 We may realize that it isn’t distinct enough from the US’s to justify the expense

You're already a state in every metric but name. What sovereignty?? Washington dictate your foreign policy. 

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

but seeing the price Canadians have been willing to pay in the past and current levels of anger over our treatment on trade and 51st state rhetoric from the US, I don’t see any kind of merger taking place with the US anytime soon.  

That's because they're ideots. Like @CdnFox to name a few. You, on the other hand know better but are nonetheless blinded by your allegiance to this fairytale called Canada.

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Now that Canadians are hyper-sensitized to that, they’re draping themselves in the maple leaf and seeking greater independence.  Go figure.

the medical terminology is retards

 

[CdnFox]

42 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

World currency reserve means we can print more money. No need to offload debt.

Works for a while but not for long. Remember that for a long time England was the world's anchor capital and look how they're doing now

42 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

That's because they're ideots. Like @CdnFox to name a few. You, on the other hand know better but are nonetheless blinded by your allegiance to this fairytale called Canada

 

Awww little guy   It's not surprising that I live rent free in your head and you obsess about me. Funny thing is I don't think about you at all

Also you're not a real American for God's sake. You're a young kid living in Alberta who can't cope with the reality of his own life and pretends to be American so that you can feel better about yourself and empowered  

Now go and do your homework. It's a school night