For all you Dippers out there who fell for Jagger's excuse of pharmacare for propping up the libs.... oppsies!

[CdnFox]

Canada healthcare: Some shocked feds won't sign pharma deals

Health advocates shocked as Carney Liberals back away from pharmacare program

During the spring election campaign, the Liberals pledged in their platform to “protect dental care and pharmacare — two critical services and key parts of a strong public health care system that (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre would cut.”

A spokesperson for Prime Minister Mark Carney said in response to questions that the Liberal leader promised during the campaign “that we wouldn’t cut or abolish any of the existing deals.”

“That’s incredibly disappointing and demonstrates a fundamental lack of leadership on this issue,” said Teale Phelps Bondaroff, the chair and co-founder of the Access B.C. campaign, which has been advocating for prescription contraceptive coverage since 2017.

 

That's what you get for trusting a liberal

[Legato]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Canada healthcare: Some shocked feds won't sign pharma deals

Health advocates shocked as Carney Liberals back away from pharmacare program

During the spring election campaign, the Liberals pledged in their platform to “protect dental care and pharmacare — two critical services and key parts of a strong public health care system that (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre would cut.”

A spokesperson for Prime Minister Mark Carney said in response to questions that the Liberal leader promised during the campaign “that we wouldn’t cut or abolish any of the existing deals.”

“That’s incredibly disappointing and demonstrates a fundamental lack of leadership on this issue,” said Teale Phelps Bondaroff, the chair and co-founder of the Access B.C. campaign, which has been advocating for prescription contraceptive coverage since 2017.

 

That's what you get for trusting a liberal

Well well....

No answer is the stern reply.

Where's the eyeballs with his off the wall peekaboo comments.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

Well well....

No answer is the stern reply.

Where's the eyeballs with his off the wall peekaboo comments.

Yeah, and this isn't one of those threads where it's kind of a fake situation or a particular article hammering home a particular political point of view or anything, there were plenty of those out there and I deliberately chose a neutral one

They are backing away from the deal they made with the NDP and I expect that soon it'll be in the trash heap. The fact is the provinces already had these programs in place for the most part. BC for example already covered diabetic medicine and birth control before the program the liberals came up with came out. So the liberals know if they back off nobody's going to really notice in British Columbia

But I bet all of those dippers who try to defend to jag meet because of pharmacare are feeling pretty stupid right now

[Barquentine]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The fact is the provinces already had these programs in place for the most part.

If the provinces have them, no deal is necessary and the feds still pay a lot of funding.

And just because they haven't made deals with other provinces doesn't mean they won't. So pour some cold water on that had-on you're getting in hope that people won't get coverage.

You're always clutching at straws, aren't you?

[Legato]

45 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

If the provinces have them, no deal is necessary and the feds still pay a lot of funding.

And just because they haven't made deals with other provinces doesn't mean they won't. So pour some cold water on that had-on you're getting in hope that people won't get coverage.

You're always clutching at straws, aren't you?

Your post is a prime example of straw clutching.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

If the provinces have them, no deal is necessary and the feds still pay a lot of funding.

No deal was necessary to begin with. You're actually beginning to realize the truth. And actually the feds would have done vastly more good with vastly less money by just augmenting funding to the existing programs

This was about optics. This was about the appearance of the trudeau government making things better for Canadians when it wasn't for the NDP to look like they were getting something for their blind subservience to the liberal cause which they didn't

This was never about benefiting Canadians and was completely unnecessary. Now Carney's looking at the books and realizing that he can't afford to expand programs that won't actually produce results.

The whole thing was in a massive waste. The funny thing is for the money they were looking at setting aside for it they could have bought private insurance like people have with their work for literally every single Canadian who didn't have work coverage currently and it would have included medical and dental.

This is why we're broke in our country is in ruin

[eyeball]

On 5/7/2026 at 9:01 AM, CdnFox said:

That's what you get for trusting a liberal

Yup, you just get a Cantservative.

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yup, you just get a Cantservative.

If only. There's nothing conservative about carney other than what he says. 

But i love that you, who support the ndp who kept these guys in power for no reason as it turns out, and you who support the liberals constantly, want to pretend that the problem is 'conservatives'  LOLOL

 

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If only. There's nothing conservative about carney other than what he says. 

But i love that you, who support the ndp who kept these guys in power for no reason as it turns out, and you who support the liberals constantly, want to pretend that the problem is 'conservatives'  LOLOL

The problem is definitely Liberals but Conservatives are useless losers so.

Conservatives, voted against dental too...

 

Edited May 8 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

The problem is definitely Liberals but Conservatives are useless losers so.

 

 

Considering your track record so far of the parties you support you're not really qualified to talk about other parties like the CPC

The CPC did amazing when they were in power and we had one of the world's best economies given the world economic downturn caused by the democrats in the states and their housing bubble.

Your gov't has driven Canada into the ground and the damage is generational.  

Kid, you don't get to say who's a useless loser, you're the poster boy.

 

 

[eyeball]

37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kid, you don't get to say who's a useless loser, you're the poster boy.

And your poster boy is advising Carney.

Now that's gotta sting.

[herbie]

So lowing down the rollout and not expanding it is a betrayl in your mind. But glorifying PP who opposed it and would definitely kill it outright is the solution.

Or you just jealous cux you don't get free tampons?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

And your poster boy is advising Carney.

 

sure, conservatives always put Canada first. I know that seems strange to you and your side who don't give a Flying Fig what happens to Canada as long as your own cult benefits. So Harper tosses him some advice once in a while. 

It's hilarious that you think somehow that being non partisan and offering help during a time of crisis for the country is some sort of 'insult' or something   Goes to show how much of a cultist you are

[eyeball]

47 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

sure, conservatives always put Canada first.

Yes, I do.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes, I do.

LOL you're conservative now? You and Mike hardner eh   

Kid, you're a liar, you're dishonest, you support corruption, you support hamas, you don't care about the future of our country or it's children.

 You're as liberal as it gets 

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You're as liberal as it gets 

You're as you as it gets.

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes, I do.

Welcome.

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Welcome.

to the ersatz club or as it's known the CiNo gang.

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're as you as it gets.

ROFLMAO!  Wow kid, you're really slipping in your comebacks

 

[JohnnyCanuck]

"That's what you get for trusting a liberal"   that is what  Jagmeet and the NDP got. It was, as others have said, just an optics policy. In reality just pretending that the ultra poor, who were already getting 'free' drugs under existing policies, would now be getting something new, the rest of us would be means tested to not qualify. I am glad the BS is going away.  The top issues in healthcare are lack of family doctors,  hospital emergency rooms bursting at the seams, and waiting times for procedures like hip and knee replacements. Fix those first I say.  Pharmacare is way down the list. The sad thing is that Carney could, and still can, greatly reduce Pharmamcare costs by getting round to implementing the National Bulk Purchasing Strategy. A policy which has been talked about for the past 20 years, the strategy sits as shelfware in Ottawa gathering dust. National Bulk Purchasing Strategy: Enhancing Drug Affordability and Access in Canada - Syenza News   Unfortunately the 13 healthcare fiefdoms are slaves to the egos of their incumbent provincial and territorial health ministers,  A couple of decades ago,  when bulk purchase talks looked serious, the drug companies picked off Ontario and Quebec with 'special' deals, with multi-year terms - and the whole issue moved to the sidelines where it still sits.  

Edited May 9 by JohnnyCanuck
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[ExFlyer]

40 minutes ago, JohnnyCanuck said:

"That's what you get for trusting a liberal"   that is what  Jagmeet and the NDP got. It was, as others have said, just an optics policy. In reality just pretending that the ultra poor, who were already getting 'free' drugs under existing policies, would now be getting something new, the rest of us would be means tested to not qualify. I am glad the BS is going away.  The top issues in healthcare are lack of family doctors,  hospital emergency rooms bursting at the seams, and waiting times for procedures like hip and knee replacements. Fix those first I say.  Pharmacare is way down the list. The sad thing is that Carney could, and still can, greatly reduce Pharmamcare costs by getting round to implementing the National Bulk Purchasing Strategy. A policy which has been talked about for the past 20 years, the strategy sits as shelfware in Ottawa gathering dust. National Bulk Purchasing Strategy: Enhancing Drug Affordability and Access in Canada - Syenza News Unfortunately the 13 healthcare fiefdoms are slaves to the egos of their incumbent provincial and territorial health ministers,    A couple of decades ago,  when bulk purchase talks looked serious, the drug companies picked off Ontario and Quebec with 'special' deals, with multi-year terms - and the whole issue moved to the sidelines where it still sits.  

There is the key statement. "Unfortunately the 13 healthcare fiefdoms are slaves to the egos of their incumbent provincial and territorial health ministers"

We like to blame Carney and Liberals for everything but in fact.....the Provinces are the ones that have almost all of the health, doctor drug etc issues under their responsibility and control. Doctors , nurses and all medical staff are licensed and controlled by the Provinces.  Drugs are also controlled by the Provinces.

As for Pharmacare...only 4 provinces actually signed up for it, "B.C., P.E.I., Yukon and Manitoba to cover the cost of certain medications for four years."

"The Liberals pledged in their platform to “protect dental care and pharmacare — two critical services and key parts of a strong public health care system that (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre would cut.”"

Edited May 9 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

We like to blame Carney and Liberals for everything but in fact.....the Provinces are the ones that have almost all of the health, doctor drug etc issues under their responsibility

This was the liberals program, this was the liberals pledge, this was the liberals payment for the ndps vote

Canceling it is 100% the liberals responsibility and fault

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

This was the liberals program, this was the liberals pledge, this was the liberals payment for the ndps vote

Canceling it is 100% the liberals responsibility and fault

What did they cancel??

Only 4 provinces signed on. The pharmacare is provincial responsibility and is already being paid by them.

So, what did they cancel???  Read your own link LOL

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

What did they cancel??

They're cancelling the funding commitment as well as the extended plan they had to get all provinces on board

Pay attention 

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Only 4 provinces signed on. The pharmacare is provincial responsibility and is already being paid by them.

Nope, This was a federally applied program.  and was paid for by the feds. 

Now, you SEEM to be arguing (without realizing it) that this was a stupid waste of money that the liberals should never have done, and those who applauded it at the time were ignorant people who don't get how this works. 

And in that sense you're quite right. Lib and dip supporters who thought this was a  good idea were stupid. 

 

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So, what did they cancel???  Read your own link LOL

Sigh. They had a commitment to continue to fund this and to finish negotiations with the last provinces

They are canceling those negotiations and have cancelled their commitment to funding. 

Do i need to get the crayons out for you, or can you get your head around this now?  

[ExFlyer]

38 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They're cancelling the funding commitment as well as the extended plan they had to get all provinces on board

Pay attention 

Nope, This was a federally applied program.  and was paid for by the feds. 

Now, you SEEM to be arguing (without realizing it) that this was a stupid waste of money that the liberals should never have done, and those who applauded it at the time were ignorant people who don't get how this works. 

And in that sense you're quite right. Lib and dip supporters who thought this was a  good idea were stupid. 

 

Sigh. They had a commitment to continue to fund this and to finish negotiations with the last provinces

They are canceling those negotiations and have cancelled their commitment to funding. 

Do i need to get the crayons out for you, or can you get your head around this now?  

Once again...what cancellations???

"the federal government’s failure to commit to funding pharmacare in all provinces and territories"

So, what cancellations???

Only 4 provinces signed intention but nothing happened.  "government signed deals with B.C., P.E.I., Yukon and Manitoba to cover the cost of certain medications for four years."

Ask Google:

"all Canadian provinces and territories pay for some medications through public drug plans" ""Provincial programs usually target seniors, low-income residents, and those with high drug costs, covering medications listed on a formulary and administered by a doctor or nurse"

It is clear you only read the headlines and not the body of text. BC Reproductive health advocates are pi$$ed that they are not getting contraceptives...that is all your link says.

As usual....you and varandafux knee jerk reaction to nothing LOL.  LOSER!!!! LOL