Carney's Bribes for the Floor-Crossers... Illegal or Just Immoral?

[WestCanMan]

Marilyn Gladu is saying that she was bribed to cross the floor by the LPoC, but she claims that it was legit because she didn't personally receive any financial compensation, her constituents were just given LPoC funding in exchange for her treachery:

• Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu crossed the floor to join Prime Minister Mark Carney’s Liberal party, citing that it was the "best thing" for her riding of Sarnia–Lambton–Bkejwanong, allowing her to secure government support for local projects.

It's obviously immoral to take taxpayer money from all ridings and just blatantly funnel it exclusively into ridings led by MP's who are party of the ruling party, and it's worse to offer opposition MP's gov't funding for their local projects in order to get them to cross the floor, but is it illegal?

Does the constitution allow the ruling party to openly deny money to opposition MP's ridings? And let's face it, saying "You only get money for your constituents if you swear allegiance to the National Socialist Canadian Workers Party" is the exact same thing as saying "Non-Nazi ridings get nothing."

[John Stone]

Floor crossing is not  illegal. 

Is it immoral?

Definitely! 

Obviously, ya can't have a bi-election on every occurrence

However, those crossing-the-floor should be forced to resign. 

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Marilyn Gladu is saying that she was bribed to cross the floor by the LPoC, but she claims that it was legit because she didn't personally receive any financial compensation, her constituents were just given LPoC funding in exchange for her treachery:

• Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu crossed the floor to join Prime Minister Mark Carney’s Liberal party, citing that it was the "best thing" for her riding of Sarnia–Lambton–Bkejwanong, allowing her to secure government support for local projects.

It's obviously immoral to take taxpayer money from all ridings and just blatantly funnel it exclusively into ridings led by MP's who are party of the ruling party, and it's worse to offer opposition MP's gov't funding for their local projects in order to get them to cross the floor, but is it illegal?

Does the constitution allow the ruling party to openly deny money to opposition MP's ridings? And let's face it, saying "You only get money for your constituents if you swear allegiance to the National Socialist Canadian Workers Party" is the exact same thing as saying "Non-Nazi ridings get nothing."

Simply more BS form a PP groupie LOL

Prove that "Marilyn Gladu is saying that she was bribed to cross the floor by the LPoC,"   You won't because you can't LOL.

As for the " obviously immoral" attitude about floor crossers...you seem to forget that your party voted against banning it LOL

 

And your former leaders said it as OK and even courageous LOL

"Stephen Harper: Mr. Speaker, as I have said before, I believe members of Parliament should have that freedom and be accountable to their constituents for their decisions at the next election. However, in my observation, the only parties that really have this as an obsession are the parties that no one ever crosses to."

Don't be so hypocritical LOL LOL LOL

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

Floor crossing is not  illegal. 

Is it immoral?

Definitely! 

Obviously, ya can't have a bi-election on every occurrence

However, those crossing-the-floor should be forced to resign. 

I feel like a by-election should be triggered within about 6 months. 

When MP's cross the floor, they would have their chance to make their case to their constituents. 

[WestCanMan]

@Down-arrow boy:

You're comparing:

• MP's who crossed the floor over serious concerns about Liberal scandals and the government's interference in the judiciary process, with
• MP's who crossed the floor because "The Liberal government will lavish money in my community if I join their party"

Do you understand that the government is elected to do what's best for the Canadian people, and not just for ridings that voted for them?

 

Gladu: "After 10 years and four elections, arguably even my strong Conservative supporters are saying to me, look we like you, you’ve worked hard, but we really need that support, we have infrastructure needs.”

Do you understand what is meant by that? Do you understand that what she is saying is "If I join the LPoC, then federal money will start flowing into my riding"?

[WestCanMan]

LinkSoul is becoming like Exflyer now... Too afraid to post, because she's tired of being exposed as a dunce...

• "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

😂

Illiterate weasel.

[ExFlyer]

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I feel like a by-election should be triggered within about 6 months. 

When MP's cross the floor, they would have their chance to make their case to their constituents. 

Well, you may "feel" but your conservative MP's decide not to ban floor crossing and have by elections....

So... your feelings are not the same as your conservative MP's feelings LOL

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

LinkSoul is becoming like Exflyer now... Too afraid to post, because she's tired of being exposed as a dunce...

• "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

😂

Illiterate weasel.

Why??  Because he slaps you in the face with facts and you don't like it LOL

[ExFlyer]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

@Down-arrow boy:

You're comparing:

• MP's who crossed the floor over serious concerns about Liberal scandals and the government's interference in the judiciary process, with
• MP's who crossed the floor because "The Liberal government will lavish money in my community if I join their party"

Do you understand that the government is elected to do what's best for the Canadian people, and not just for ridings that voted for them?

 

Gladu: "After 10 years and four elections, arguably even my strong Conservative supporters are saying to me, look we like you, you’ve worked hard, but we really need that support, we have infrastructure needs.”

Do you understand what is meant by that? Do you understand that what she is saying is "If I join the LPoC, then federal money will start flowing into my riding"?

Hey...it is your precious leaders  that said all those things...clearly you are out of sync with your own party LOL

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

LinkSoul is becoming like Exflyer now... Too afraid to post, because she's tired of being exposed as a dunce...

• "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

😂

Illiterate weasel.

No, I just find it tiring and actually quite boring to reply to every post from idi0ts like yourself.... and you're certainly near the top of the idi0t list.

I'll just sit back and shake my head or laugh at your same old idi0tic posts, and wonder if you're really as stupîd as you come across... Are you?

 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No, I just find it tiring and actually quite boring to reply to every post from idi0ts like yourself.... and you're certainly near the top of the idi0t list. I'll just sit back and shake my head or laugh at your same old idi0tic posts, and wonder if you're really as stupîd as you come across... Are you?

Buddy, if you think that your contribution in the "$1Trillion" thread of: "So what if the LPoC Gov't chased away $1 Trillion in investment in ten years? I'm done crying about that. This is a new LPoC Gov't" counts as some kind of adult dialogue, then your accusation of stupidity rings like a nomination for the presidency of MENSA.

FYI nothing that you say ever has even a hint of intelligence. 

Your "new Liberal gov't" has all of the same cabinet members, and the old PM's advisor in the PMO now. Can you explain how that says "New LPoC gov't", dummy? 

I eagerly await your next round of sandbox insults and dumb platitudes... 😂 

[Goddess]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

I eagerly await your next round of sandbox insults and dumb platitudes... 😂

He says he uses this forum to blow off emotional steam by insulting people he doesn't know IRL.

He's a very prolific insult poster, so I sense he carries an extreme amount of emotional trauma he needs to work out.

Go easy on him.  Maybe he beats his wife less by coming here and taking it out on us.

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Buddy, if you think that your contribution in the "$1Trillion" thread of: "So what if the LPoC Gov't chased away $1 Trillion in investment in ten years? I'm done crying about that. This is a new LPoC Gov't" counts as some kind of adult dialogue, then your accusation of stupidity rings like a nomination for the presidency of MENSA.

FYI nothing that you say ever has even a hint of intelligence. 

Your "new Liberal gov't" has all of the same cabinet members, and the old PM's advisor in the PMO now. Can you explain how that says "New LPoC gov't", dummy? 

I eagerly await your next round of sandbox insults and dumb platitudes... 😂 

Back to my question... are you really as stupîd as you appear to be?

Just now, Goddess said:

He says he uses this forum to blow off emotional steam by insulting people he doesn't know IRL.

He's a very prolific insult poster, so I sense he carries an extreme amount of emotional trauma he needs to work out.

Go easy on him.  Maybe he beats his wife less by coming here and taking it out on us.

Having a bad morning Karen...?

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you explain how that says "New LPoC gov't", dummy? 

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Having a bad morning Karen...?

I'm having a great morning, thanks! ☺️

Tai Chi, had a cup of coffee with a herd of deer, the grandbabies called.....so far, so good.

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I'm having a great morning, thanks! ☺️

Tai Chi, had a cup of coffee with a herd of deer, the grandbabies called.....so far, so good.

Good to hear... was hoping you were 👍

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, Goddess said:

He's a very prolific insult poster,

Link insulting people's intelligence is like Peter Dinklage calling NBA players short. But with poor spelling and grammar.

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I feel like a by-election should be triggered within about 6 months. 

When MP's cross the floor, they would have their chance to make their case to their constituents. 

Oh, indeed. 

The idea that political hacks can be bought is absurd!

Right??????

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Back to my question... are you really as stupîd as you appear to be?

This isn't a dating site, girl.

Go to a racist rally to find some D, like all the other left4rd women do. That would be BLM, Antifa, No Kings, or an Anti-ICE rally.

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

This isn't a dating site, girl.

Go to a racist rally to find some D, like all the other left4rd women do. That would be BLM, Antifa, No Kings, or an Anti-ICE rally.

What the hell runs through your head every day... and how do you even function when you get outside of your four walls?

I have no idea what you're trying say...  

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I have no idea what 

Exactly. Thank you for admitting to that.

[herbie]

Wasn't it Mulroney who said the only complaining about floor crossings are from members of a party no one wants to cross over to?

Suppose the same people will keep it up if thee are more on the way. even to making up stories they were bribed rather than facing up to their own party's failures.

[suds]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I feel like a by-election should be triggered within about 6 months. 

When MP's cross the floor, they would have their chance to make their case to their constituents. 

Right on!  Then the next time someone claims their floor crossing was decided after consultation with their constituents.....  they'll have to prove it. And democracy wins.

Edited April 24 by suds

[ExFlyer]

36 minutes ago, herbie said:

Wasn't it Mulroney who said the only complaining about floor crossings are from members of a party no one wants to cross over to?

Suppose the same people will keep it up if thee are more on the way. even to making up stories they were bribed rather than facing up to their own party's failures.

No, that was HArper

 

 

Still waiting for wesconfuxman to prove Gladu was bribed...

As expected, no proof and just another conservative PP groupie rectal pluck LOL

 

[CdnFox]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Marilyn Gladu is saying that she was bribed to cross the floor by the LPoC, but she claims that it was legit because she didn't personally receive any financial compensation, her constituents were just given LPoC funding in exchange for her treachery:

• Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu crossed the floor to join Prime Minister Mark Carney’s Liberal party, citing that it was the "best thing" for her riding of Sarnia–Lambton–Bkejwanong, allowing her to secure government support for local projects.

It's obviously immoral to take taxpayer money from all ridings and just blatantly funnel it exclusively into ridings led by MP's who are party of the ruling party, and it's worse to offer opposition MP's gov't funding for their local projects in order to get them to cross the floor, but is it illegal?

Does the constitution allow the ruling party to openly deny money to opposition MP's ridings? And let's face it, saying "You only get money for your constituents if you swear allegiance to the National Socialist Canadian Workers Party" is the exact same thing as saying "Non-Nazi ridings get nothing."

Well she's not being entirely honest, but you'll quickly see the problem.

The law says you can't bribe someone to cross the floor essentially.

But is it a bribe to speculate on whether or not she would be an excellent candidate for a number of committees and maybe even a cabinet position giving her skill set? I mean that's not a bribe that's just discussing your employment conditions isn't it?

And yet those very things are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to her.  AND they would make her very valuable once she left politics.

But is it illegal to talk about what the future might hold for you with your new employer?  well.. no.  

It's definitely immoral, but of course they've got teams of people figuring out how to do it legally. 

It's like it wasn't illegal for him envelope to parole parliament but it is absolutely immoral and goes against parliamentary tradition. And for him to become Prime Minister and not even try to run the country but to use it for his self-aggrandizing before calling an election is immoral.

These guys have no morals. They are out to win. And sadly if we don't learn to behave the same way we're going to lose. The liberal voters will not punish this behavior, this Behavior will be rewarded and we simply cannot win if they are allowed to do it and we are not.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

These guys have no morals. They are out to...

stuff as much taxpayer money into their friends' fake businesses.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

stuff as much taxpayer money into their friends' fake businesses.

As well as fake Charities as well as real businesses.  I mean Brooksfield is a completely legitimately real business, and he'll funnel tons of money into that business because he knows when he gets out they will repay him by funding millions into his pockets

And the Charities will ask him to sit on their boards of directors for 3 or 400,000 a year. It won't ever have to do anything. You get a hundred of those and now you're talking real money. He was on the board of directors of over 200 such organizations when he became prime minister, although getting paid less because his name wasn't worth as much at the time and he only did so much for them as the bank of England guy

But for now all he has to do is shovel 500 million into their pockets over a few years to pay for equity and diversity for gay trans rice planters in vietnam (actual charity canada donated to under carney btw) and a couple dozen million will flow right back to him when he's out. 

Nice and legal.  No law says he can't work for a charity once he's out.