Conversion therapy is back! SC rules against Colorado ban of conversion therapy

[West]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-overturns-ban-so-called-conversion-therapy-first-amendment-grounds

Right on!

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, West said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-overturns-ban-so-called-conversion-therapy-first-amendment-grounds

Right on!

Thank God for the SC. 

[robosmith]

Headline: SCOTUS endorses MEDICAL CARE FRAUD.

Edited March 31 by robosmith

[West]

57 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Headline: SCOTUS endorses MEDICAL CARE FRAUD.

Its not for YOU to decide whether or not someone wants to recieve help to leave the gay lifestyle

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Headline: SCOTUS endorses MEDICAL CARE FRAUD.

THE QUEER AGENDA MATTERS

-- robowoke

[User]

This has always been the stupidity of the left. They label EVERYTHING as “conversion therapy” to conflate it with some Christian fundamentalist camp somewhere torturing some poor kid with electric shock therapy. 
 

Meanwhile, what Colorado did, is basically say that if some poor confused kid comes to a therapist to talk about gender confusion or discomfort the therapist can’t talk to them about anything else other than affirming them as something they are not.

Oh, you are a confused kid, well, let’s go 100% trans madness then, there can be no other alternative explanation, other than you are clearly the opposite gender and we must affirm that. 
 

It’s a sick joke and this is the garbage the left has been pushing. 
 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Headline: SCOTUS endorses MEDICAL CARE FRAUD.

Does this bother you? Figure maybe some of your friends might go straight?

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, West said:

Its not for YOU to decide whether or not someone wants to recieve help to leave the gay lifestyle

Right. It is EXPERTS who determined that conversion therapy doesn't work and is therefore FRAUDULENT. Duh

And your ignorance won't change that.

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Major medical and mental health organizations widely agree that so-called "conversion therapy" is ineffective, harmful, and not a legitimate form of therapy. Many sources, including legal and human rights experts, describe the practice as a form of fraud and a scam because it purports to change sexual orientation or gender identity, which is not possible. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Why is conversion therapy considered fraudulent?

• No Scientific Basis: There is a scientific consensus that variations in sexual orientation and gender identity are normal and healthy aspects of human identity, not illnesses or disorders that require a "cure". The practice is widely considered pseudoscience.
• Ineffectiveness: Decades of research and a systematic review by the American Psychological Association concluded that efforts to change sexual orientation are unlikely to be successful.
• Harmful Outcomes: Instead of working, the practice can lead to severe psychological damage, including increased risk of anxiety, depression, substance abuse, and suicide attempts, particularly among vulnerable LGBTQ+ youth.
• Deceptive Advertising: Practitioners often charge significant amounts of money (sometimes thousands of dollars) using unsubstantiated testimonials and claims to exploit the guilt and anxiety of individuals and families seeking help.
• Official Condemnation: The practice has been renounced by nearly every major medical and mental health organization, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, and the World Psychiatric Association. The UN has also stated that it could amount to torture or degrading treatment. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Does this bother you?

It does bother me that FRAUDULENT THERAPY was endorsed by the SCOTUS

But I suppose that's OK with you because it fits YOUR AGENDA.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Figure maybe some of your friends might go straight?

I couldn't care less what they decide to do. Duh

[West]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Right. It is EXPERTS who determined that conversion therapy doesn't work and is therefore FRAUDULENT. Duh

And your ignorance won't change that.

 

The experts in this case are confused degenerates who don't know what a penis or a vagina are

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, West said:

The experts in this case are confused degenerates who don't know what a penis or a vagina are

IT is you who is CONFUSED about the FACTS due to the superficiality of your understanding.

I mean you're still pretending that "sin" is a FACT. LMAO

But don't feel bad, you're in the company of a lot of IGNORANT CONS.

[Nationalist]

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It does bother me that FRAUDULENT THERAPY was endorsed by the SCOTUS

But I suppose that's OK with you because it fits YOUR AGENDA.

I couldn't care less what they decide to do. Duh

Ya...I dont believe that for a second. You care...deeply.

And what makes you think its fraudulent therapy? The girl who was the reason for the case didn't think it is.

Edited March 31 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...I dont believe that for a second. You care...deeply.

And what makes you think its fraudulent therapy? The girl who was the reason for the case didn't think it is.

Random patients don't know shit. Like you.

I already posted the EVIDENCE and you  couldn't even understand it.

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Random patients don't know shit. Like you.

I already posted the EVIDENCE and you  couldn't even understand it.

Random patient who just won her SCOTUS case.

I guess your "evidence" means squat.

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Random patient who just won her SCOTUS case.

I guess your "evidence" means squat.

Thanks for admitting that all you have is GUESS. LMAO

The SCOTUS didn't rule on the evidence of the validity of conversion therapy, dropout

They ruled that charlatans had the freedom to defraud their patients.

Edited April 1 by robosmith

[Hodad]

This is a bizarre ruling and a hollow rationale. And the vote split is even more bizarre. 

In essence, what this does is to say that professional speech  (as opposed to private conversations) cannot be regulated. That professionals, licensed and given a mantle of authority by state licensing boards (which is meant to endorse to patients a standard of care and inspire trust) have no obligation to actually apply evidence-based professional standards of care.

As long as the conversation is voluntary, a professional can lie,  can lie, can promote nonsense, and can even "prescribe" known harmful behaviors.

I need to read in detail to see if the are any carve outs in the logic, but that's the thrust of Gorsuch"s argument: if it's "voluntary" and it's speech, anything goes. Professionals have no higher standard of responsibility for advice than any random person on the street. 

Not to mention that for most minor patients, conversion therapy (known for decades to be incredibly harmful) is not voluntary. Most minor patients are forced or coerced into this harmful environment. 

 

[Barquentine]

13 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And what makes you think its fraudulent therapy?

Dr. Ho must be the happiest man alive today.

Would Conversion Therapy work on MAGA? Just askin'.

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

This is a bizarre ruling and a hollow rationale. And the vote split is even more bizarre. 

In essence, what this does is to say that professional speech  (as opposed to private conversations) cannot be regulated. That professionals, licensed and given a mantle of authority by state licensing boards (which is meant to endorse to patients a standard of care and inspire trust) have no obligation to actually apply evidence-based professional standards of care.

As long as the conversation is voluntary, a professional can lie,  can lie, can promote nonsense, and can even "prescribe" known harmful behaviors.

I need to read in detail to see if the are any carve outs in the logic, but that's the thrust of Gorsuch"s argument: if it's "voluntary" and it's speech, anything goes. Professionals have no higher standard of responsibility for advice than any random person on the street. 

Not to mention that for most minor patients, conversion therapy (known for decades to be incredibly harmful) is not voluntary. Most minor patients are forced or coerced into this harmful environment. 

 

Where do you get these lies? Try going to the source:

SCOTUS BLOG

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Chiles went to federal court in Colorado to challenge the constitutionality of the 2019 law and block Colorado from enforcing it against her. She contended that she did not attempt to “convert” her clients. Instead, she said, she merely tried to help them “with their stated desires and objectives in counseling, which sometimes includes clients seeking to reduce or eliminate unwanted sexual attractions, change sexual behaviors, or grow in the experience of harmony with one’s physical body.”

FFS

[User]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Where do you get these lies? Try going to the source:

LOL This is what @Hodadroutinely does.

Its as if he never actually reads the rulings like these, just mindlessly parrots whatever the leftist talking points are.

Its why he is a coward hiding from me. 

[User]

Typical stupid depravity of the left:

-Telling a child they are a gender they are not, affirming them, telling them they will die if they don’t take drugs and butcher themselves to appear like something they are not… Totally cool! 
 

-Telling a child they are the gender they are and helping them with their mental issues… OMG CONVERSION THERAPY

 

[Reg Volk]

Of course the only justice to vote the wrong way on this was Biden's DEI appointment.  Man is she just the worst.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Dr. Ho must be the happiest man alive today.

Would Conversion Therapy work on MAGA? Just askin'.

You know they say, "you can't fix stupid." LMAO

[User]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You know they say, "you can't fix stupid." LMAO

Well, no one can fix how stupid you are.