Stable Genius Orange Man was right

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You are completely delusional. People with knowledge of Epstein's parties said DJT never did anything untoward. Five people testified to Congress, under oathe, to that fact. There are zero files that make any such claims. Trump was the only President to sign any legislation to release the files and he signed an EO demanding the files be released. 

Absolutely delusional. 

He didn't sign an executive order. He fought vocally against releasing the files for months, and then "heroically" signed the Epstein Transparency Act that was passed with e veto-proof majority. In other words, he lost. 

And there are indeed claims against Trump. You're quite aware of them. Why lie?

[Moonbox]

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Moonbat...

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/trade-balance-deficit

I know you think that tells a good story, but that's based on you knowing less than nothing about economics, isn't it?  

Trade deficits =/ bad 

As evidence you can compare US GDP growth to that of Germany or Japan since the 1980's. 

Who grew more?  The US, with it's constant trade deficits, or the the Japs and the Gerrys, with their constant surpluses?  

Hmmmmm....

Hmmmmmm..... 

It's a grand mystery:

 

 

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Cutting off your nose to spite your face huh? Have at it deadbeats, middle eastern oil hurts you all a lot more than it hurts America.

Unfortunate you don't understand the price of oil is GLOBAL, which means that US oil companies always sell to the highest bidder and don't gaf if US citizens can't afford sky high prices.

Trump WAR inflation FTL! 🤮

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Huge flaw in your drivel and spew there:

• THE CHANCE OF AMERICA BEING ABLE TO LAUNCH A SURPRISE ATTACK AGAINST IRAN IF OMAR, TLAIB, JEFFRIES, STARM-GIRL AND MICRONUTS ALL KNOW ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE IS 0.00%. They might as well post their battle plans right on FB, Twitter, Instagram and Tinder.

Or Hegseth will start a Signal meeting to detail attack plans with The Atlantic Editor Jeffrey Goldberg listening in by mistake. LMAO

Got news for you: the Congressional 8  have never leaked classified war plans despite your DELUSIONS.

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

He didn't sign an executive order. He fought vocally against releasing the files for months, and then "heroically" signed the Epstein Transparency Act that was passed with e veto-proof majority. In other words, he lost. 

And there are indeed claims against Trump. You're quite aware of them. Why lie?

I24 News

Trump signs order releasing Epstein files after congressional approval

Trump’s own name appears in some of the documents, though the contents have not yet been fully disclosed.

U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday directing the release of documents related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, following unanimous approval by the Senate earlier this week. 

[Hodad]

37 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I24 News

Trump signs order releasing Epstein files after congressional approval

Trump’s own name appears in some of the documents, though the contents have not yet been fully disclosed.

U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday directing the release of documents related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, following unanimous approval by the Senate earlier this week. 

I think you searched high and low to find a news site as bumfuzzled as you are. 

Here are all the Trump EOs.

Find the Epstein EO and I'll happily acknowledge that you finally got something right. But you didn't. 

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

I think you searched high and low to find a news site as bumfuzzled as you are. 

Here are all the Trump EOs.

Find the Epstein EO and I'll happily acknowledge that you finally got something right. But you didn't. 

I am sorry. It was not an EO, just an order to the DOJ to release all files. 

https://time.com/7303784/trump-administration-doj-grand-jury-epstein-files-release-motion/

Trump Administration Requests Release of Epstein Grand Jury Files. What Happens Next?

An order that, by the way, was rejected by several courts.

 

[Hodad]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I am sorry. It was not an EO, just an order to the DOJ to release all files. 

https://time.com/7303784/trump-administration-doj-grand-jury-epstein-files-release-motion/

Trump Administration Requests Release of Epstein Grand Jury Files. What Happens Next?

An order that, by the way, was rejected by several courts.

 

You are shameless. Jeebus.

No, there was no order to release the files. 

No, that article in no way, shape or form implies that there was such an order. 

Yes, the word "order" does appear in that article. Want to guess the context? 

"Trump’s instruction regarding the grand jury files has done little to settle the calls for more transparency, as he has not ordered the release of the DOJ files"

You're trying to use an article that says the EXACT opposite of your claim to support your claim.

[gatomontes99]

Just now, Hodad said:

You are shameless. Jeebus.

No, there was no order to release the files. 

No, that article in no way, shape or form implies that there was such an order. 

Yes, the word "order" does appear in that article. Want to guess the context? 

"Trump’s instruction regarding the grand jury files has done little to settle the calls for more transparency, as he has not ordered the release of the DOJ files"

You're trying to use an article that says the EXACT opposite of your claim to support your claim.

Ok. So reality upsets you. Got it. You arent going to be happy about the russia collusion hoax then. 

[Hodad]

5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Ok. So reality upsets you. Got it. You arent going to be happy about the russia collusion hoax then. 

Lol. You tried the same lying bullshit in both cases, posting links that directly contradict your claim and hoping no one would call you on it. 

I think we can all see who is denying reality. I quoted it in black and white--which you will probably pretend is green and fuscia.🙄

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Lol. You tried the same lying bullshit in both cases, posting links that directly contradict your claim and hoping no one would call you on it. 

I think we can all see who is denying reality. I quoted it in black and white--which you will probably pretend is green and fuscia.🙄

Uh huh. What you quoted was someone saying others did not like it. Further, you are ignoring that it took an actor congress to release allnthe files because the law prevented it. But that is not important. Trump bad, Hodad fantasy important, reality no good. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Uh huh. What you quoted was someone saying others did not like it. Further, you are ignoring that it took an actor congress to release allnthe files because the law prevented it. But that is not important. Trump bad, Hodad fantasy important, reality no good. 

No, we what I quoted from YOUR citation was a factual observation that Trump had not ordered any release of Epstein files, which you are trying to conflate with grand jury testimony. 

I'm language you can understand: Gato a liar. No EO to release files. No directive to release the Epstein files. 

That's reality. I like it just fine. You should try it sometime. 

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

No, we what I quoted from YOUR citation was a factual observation that Trump had not ordered any release of Epstein files, which you are trying to conflate with grand jury testimony. 

I'm language you can understand: Gato a liar. No EO to release files. No directive to release the Epstein files. 

That's reality. I like it just fine. You should try it sometime. 

The point was, Trump took actions to get files out. No one else did. And nothing in those files incriminate him. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The point was, Trump took actions to get files out. No one else did. And nothing in those files incriminate him. 

WTF? He fought the law. He tried to kill it. Once it passed with a veto-proof majority, he signed it.

• House of Representatives: 427–1 (November 18, 2025)
• Senate: Passed by unanimous consent (November 18, 2025)

 

You can say that the files don't incriminate him, but there are indeed accusations against him. They were published, taken down, and then re-published when they got called out. 

 

You cannot make Trump the hero of this story. That's next-next-level gaslighting. Cult shit way beyond even the MAGA legislative lackeys. 

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

WTF? He fought the law. He tried to kill it. Once it passed with a veto-proof majority, he signed it.

Right. Because the house bill was the ONLY way? Trump did not oppose the bill for it's intent, he opposed it for the unintended consequences. Like the release of victim's names and the false claims that were included. He wanted a way to get the info out there about the potentially guilty while leaving the obviously innocent people alone. But, TDS combined the the Epstein conspiracy theorists were a powerful group, when combined. So he signed the bill, after getting the house to agree to some redactions. The original bill required no redactions. 

See, you guys lie like this all the time. You take an action and assume a motive, without evidence. ALL of the claims in the Epstein files were lwnjs that went to the DOJ with made up stories in an attempt to keep Trump out of office. The rest of the mentions are Trump giving character statements and hearsay testimony. 

It is sad how you glam onto rumors and conspiracy theories to fuel your hatred. Must be nice to have so few problems in life that you have to make up new ones to deal with. 

[Nationalist]

22 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

In advertising terms...the flag went up the pole. Let's see who salutes. None of America's erstwhile allies did. They can make do with their Russian oil, I suppose.

😄

This is the pertinent question, I guess.

'What is more important to you? Ukraine? Or your nation's economy?'

Assuming neither side would ever use nukes, was the reaction to Russia's assault on Ukraine "wise"?

I never thought it was. 

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Right. Because the house bill was the ONLY way? Trump did not oppose the bill for it's intent, he opposed it for the unintended consequences. Like the release of victim's names and the false claims that were included. He wanted a way to get the info out there about the potentially guilty while leaving the obviously innocent people alone. But, TDS combined the the Epstein conspiracy theorists were a powerful group, when combined. So he signed the bill, after getting the house to agree to some redactions. The original bill required no redactions. 

See, you guys lie like this all the time. You take an action and assume a motive, without evidence. ALL of the claims in the Epstein files were lwnjs that went to the DOJ with made up stories in an attempt to keep Trump out of office. The rest of the mentions are Trump giving character statements and hearsay testimony. 

It is sad how you glam onto rumors and conspiracy theories to fuel your hatred. Must be nice to have so few problems in life that you have to make up new ones to deal with. 

HOLY. FARKING. SHIT. You are a shameless liar. It's astonishing watching you weave this collapsing web.

First you say he signed an EO to release files. FALSE
Then you say he signed a directive to release the files. FALSE
Then you say he was the one fighting to release the files. FALSE He was fighting against it.
 

Now, you say that he was:
Fighting the bill to protect victims identities
Only fought the bill because it didn't allow for redactions
Convinced the house to change the bill to allow for redactions

Here is the bill as it was introduced--day 1. Guess what's in it?
c) PERMITTED WITHHOLDINGS.— (1) IN GENERAL.—In carrying out subsection (a), the Attorney General may withhold from publication any record, document, communication, or investigative material, or redact any segregable portion of any record, document, communication, or investigative material, that— (A) contains personally identifiable information from the personal or medical file of a victim or child witness, including information the publication of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy...

And guess what else? Bet you can guess. 🙂

There were amendments and changes proposed to the bill, but none of them succeeded. The bill was passed exactly as it was written. Nothing changed. He simply pretended to support it after he failed to stop it. 

You are just fabricating an entire alternate reality. Un-farking-believable.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

This is the pertinent question, I guess.

'What is more important to you? Ukraine? Or your nation's economy?'

Assuming neither side would ever use nukes, was the reaction to Russia's assault on Ukraine "wise"?

I never thought it was. 

Because you're OK with ENCOURAGING FASCIST DICTATORS like Putin and Xi  to STEAL sovereign nations by FORCE. AKA a FASCIST yourself. 🤮

Bet you were OK with Hitler invading Poland too (in retrospect).

54 minutes ago, Hodad said:

HOLY. FARKING. SHIT. You are a shameless liar. It's astonishing watching you weave this collapsing web.

First you say he signed an EO to release files. FALSE
Then you say he signed a directive to release the files. FALSE
Then you say he was the one fighting to release the files. FALSE He was fighting against it.
 

Now, you say that he was:
Fighting the bill to protect victims identities
Only fought the bill because it didn't allow for redactions
Convinced the house to change the bill to allow for redactions

Here is the bill as it was introduced--day 1. Guess what's in it?
c) PERMITTED WITHHOLDINGS.— (1) IN GENERAL.—In carrying out subsection (a), the Attorney General may withhold from publication any record, document, communication, or investigative material, or redact any segregable portion of any record, document, communication, or investigative material, that— (A) contains personally identifiable information from the personal or medical file of a victim or child witness, including information the publication of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy...

And guess what else? Bet you can guess. 🙂

There were amendments and changes proposed to the bill, but none of them succeeded. The bill was passed exactly as it was written. Nothing changed. He simply pretended to support it after he failed to stop it. 

You are just fabricating an entire alternate reality. Un-farking-believable.

You know gato's SHAMELESS LIES are why I put him on IGNORE.

[DogOnPorch]

10 hours ago, Nationalist said:

This is the pertinent question, I guess.

'What is more important to you? Ukraine? Or your nation's economy?'

Assuming neither side would ever use nukes, was the reaction to Russia's assault on Ukraine "wise"?

I never thought it was. 

 

Not very. Russia had warned the NATO nations to not keep expanding eastward. I believe NATO even agreed to it at some point...then quickly forgot. Russia has quite a bit to be concerned about in their minds...after being refused entry into NATO...and the historical actions of Western Europeans over the decades and further. Barbarossa coming to mind (Germany & pals)...but also the French, Austrians, Polish...and even the UK & USA during the Civil War. Ultimately, this Ukraine thing is a Medieval conflict brought into modern times. Kiev & Rus Princes and what-not. Toss in the joint being run by literal Bandera loving Nazis with all that Babi-Yar baggage...well...I'd stand way back.

 

 

Edited March 21 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

Fun fact: there were more Ukrainian leaders of the Soviet Union than Russian. And lest we forget that Georgian. 

[gatomontes99]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

HOLY. FARKING. SHIT. You are a shameless liar. It's astonishing watching you weave this collapsing web.

First you say he signed an EO to release files. FALSE
Then you say he signed a directive to release the files. FALSE
Then you say he was the one fighting to release the files. FALSE He was fighting against it.
 

Now, you say that he was:
Fighting the bill to protect victims identities
Only fought the bill because it didn't allow for redactions
Convinced the house to change the bill to allow for redactions

Here is the bill as it was introduced--day 1. Guess what's in it?
c) PERMITTED WITHHOLDINGS.— (1) IN GENERAL.—In carrying out subsection (a), the Attorney General may withhold from publication any record, document, communication, or investigative material, or redact any segregable portion of any record, document, communication, or investigative material, that— (A) contains personally identifiable information from the personal or medical file of a victim or child witness, including information the publication of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy...

And guess what else? Bet you can guess. 🙂

There were amendments and changes proposed to the bill, but none of them succeeded. The bill was passed exactly as it was written. Nothing changed. He simply pretended to support it after he failed to stop it. 

You are just fabricating an entire alternate reality. Un-farking-believable.

Your link does not work. I assume you are talking about the Khanna bill. I was talking about the MTG bill that failed miserably. Because DJT ordered the DOJ to release files, Johnson killed her bill.