paxamericana Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: No citizens in San Diego OR Iran are going to school out in the desert, dummy. So the logical choice is next to a terrorist camp then? Makes sense robo… Quote
robosmith Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: So the logical choice is next to a terrorist camp then? Makes sense robo… Apparently so, just like the logical choice for a High School in San Diego was next to a Marine Air base where a crash could kill students WITHOUT a war. Face it pax, your "human shield" ASSumption is completely FLAWED in so many ways, not the least of which is, it DID NOT SHIELD anything from US jet jockeys who didn't bother to update their maps. 1 Quote
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 33 minutes ago, robosmith said: Apparently so, just like the logical choice for a High School in San Diego was next to a Marine Air base where a crash could kill students WITHOUT a war. Face it pax, your "human shield" ASSumption is completely FLAWED in so many ways, not the least of which is, it DID NOT SHIELD anything from US jet jockeys who didn't bother to update their maps. You keep pushing this stupid lie, and we keep pointing out that you are full of shit. Show us the map you are using and point out the high school that is so close to the Air Base. Quote
paxamericana Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 37 minutes ago, robosmith said: just like the logical choice for a High School in San Diego Robo if you’re insistent of dying on this hill, I’ll happily oblige. Quote
robosmith Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 5 hours ago, paxamericana said: Robo if you’re insistent of dying on this hill, I’ll happily oblige. Are you threatening me? LMAO Quote
Hodad Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 15 hours ago, paxamericana said: You do realize the regime purposely built the girl school at their military base to use as human shields yes? Don’t be blinded by your TDS You know, we have about 160 schools on our military bases, right? Are we really into human shields too? Or maybe they're just schools. 💡 1 Quote
John Stone Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 16 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Who cares... The opportunity for more personal and family financial gains are far more important than global stability or national security. Is there any reason for SA to have a nuclear program other than to develop weapons? SA's concern is Israel's non-admission of possessing crowd pleasers ......... and the platforms to deliver them in 3rd strike or strategic ICBM manner. Daresay that this recent dustup with Iran has raised SA's concerns even more. Trump?.................relax . the guy is only 79 years old ......... Quote
paxamericana Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Are you threatening me? Just let your bad idea die, no need to doublel down. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, John Stone said: Is there any reason for SA to have a nuclear program other than to develop weapons? SA's concern is Israel's non-admission of possessing crowd pleasers ......... and the platforms to deliver them in 3rd strike or strategic ICBM manner. Daresay that this recent dustup with Iran has raised SA's concerns even more. Trump?.................relax . the guy is only 79 years old ......... Sure there is.... SA is the wealthiest country in the ME and thinking they need nuclear weapons with the never ending turmoil on the region. Trump and administration (moreso Witcoff and Kushner) don't care as long as they get to profit from SA arrangements. I'm relaxed with lots of time.... Trump, not so much. Quote
John Stone Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 25 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Sure there is.... SA is the wealthiest country in the ME and thinking they need nuclear weapons with the never ending turmoil on the region. Trump and administration (moreso Witcoff and Kushner) don't care as long as they get to profit from SA arrangements. I'm relaxed with lots of time.... Trump, not so much. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have signed an unprecedented agreement that, in essence, vows mutual defence. It is similar to NATO’s Article 5, as it considers an attack on one to be an attack on both. Saudi Arabia’s defence cooperation with Pakistan is no secret. But what worries observers is the historical context of their collaboration, particularly regarding Pakistan’s nuclear programme. Saudi Arabia's perceived threats from Iran add to the concern. Analysts in India, meanwhile, are questioning whether Saudi Arabia might support Pakistan militarily in future conflicts, such as the recent Operation Sindoor. It is no secret that the Saud's covet a nuc ......... call it nuc proliferation? Pakistan will likely be complicit in SA developing nucs if their SA's nuclear program sours the West. Considering Pak and India are both nuclear powers - India has reasons for concern. Quote
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 6 hours ago, Hodad said: You know, we have about 160 schools on our military bases, right? Are we really into human shields too? Or maybe they're just schools. 💡 On them... in the "city" type areas of the base where shopping is located, families live in houses; they are not built right next to the Tanks or an F-35 hangar. They would be blown up if our enemy was targeting the commissary or an auto mechanic club... You leftists just can't stop trying to demonize your own damn country and equate us to countries like Iran. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, User said: You leftists just can't stop trying to demonize your own damn country and equate us to countries like Iran. It's really in response to a moral hubris that people find repugnant, evidenced in the response of an administration that seems to be indifferent to killing hundreds of school children. And the same people behaving like they're the most moral people on Earth. Yeah that's it.... People don't like that for some reason. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 34 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: It's really in response to a moral hubris that people find repugnant, evidenced in the response of an administration that seems to be indifferent to killing hundreds of school children. And the same people behaving like they're the most moral people on Earth. Yeah that's it.... People don't like that for some reason. What response from this administration? Be specific. Last I checked this was still under investigation and there is no real comment, let alone anything that is indifferent. That point is still absurd on its face, as we are spending billions in smart munitions to specifically target military targets instead of just carpet bombing with dumb bombs. It is evidenced by the fact that we are not blowing up schools every day, all day long, or other civilian infrastructure with kids inside. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/14/2026 at 1:26 PM, robosmith said: Congress approved the war in Iraq as required. It has not approved Trump's INVASION nor DESTRUCTION. Esp not of a girls school. Yep...and Congress did not approve Clinton or Obama wars in the former Yugoslavia (1999), Libya (2011), or Syria (2014). Congress did not declare war on Iraq, just passed a resolution. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/14/2026 at 2:42 PM, LinkSoul60 said: The difference there is that other presidents had qualified people and an objective. A couple minor details that are clearly missing in this administration.... Disagree...this administration most certainly has defined objectives for American foreign policy, just like previous presidents. Many of the tactics and weapons packages against Iran started development many years ago across several presidents, including Operation Midnight Hammer. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/14/2026 at 3:03 PM, robosmith said: You are wildly OPTIMISTIC to claim "a feature" long before Trump's policies have proved effective. Maybe you don't know that Trump's business ventures feature SIX BANKRUPCIES. LMAO Doesn't matter what I think about it...the elected American president and the administration have decided to execute several domestic and foreign policies that may or may not prove to be successful long term. But one thing is guaranteed...policies will be different from the past in an effort to achieve different results from the prior administration(s). Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/15/2026 at 1:14 PM, Michael Hardner said: It's really in response to a moral hubris that people find repugnant, evidenced in the response of an administration that seems to be indifferent to killing hundreds of school children. Okay, I get that, but this administration is hardly the first to do so, and won't be the last. Lawsuits will be filed and adjudicated/settled out of court like many times before. War crimes will be alleged (but go nowhere in the ICC), dollars will change hands, lawyers will be enriched, families will grieve their loss, terrorists will invoke the dead, etc. Rinse and repeat. The question that remains unanswered is where was the equivalent response from political opposition when the other party's president was doing such things. Therein lies the perceived inconsistency. Either way, it is a feeble attempt to actually change the overarching foreign policy at play for the U.S. administration in this case. Methinks it is mostly performative virtue signaling, having little regard for the fate of Iranian students under the current regime and conditions. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Disagree...this administration most certainly has defined objectives for American foreign policy, just like previous presidents. Many of the tactics and weapons packages against Iran started development many years ago across several presidents, including Operation Midnight Hammer. We'll agree to disagree. There was no imminent threat and clearly no objective with a final end goal and exit.. Trump and his in over their head administration have essentially confirmed that with the differently stated objectives. Quote
User Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: We'll agree to disagree. There was no imminent threat and clearly no objective with a final end goal and exit.. Trump and his in over their head administration have essentially confirmed that with the differently stated objectives. Agree to disagree all you want, but Trump and Hegseth have repeatedly outlined objectives, goals, and an exit. Just saying over and over again they didn't doesn't make it true. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 25 minutes ago, User said: Agree to disagree all you want, but Trump and Hegseth have repeatedly outlined objectives, goals, and an exit. Just saying over and over again they didn't doesn't make it true. The two ex-TV clowns originally had differing comments. It's taken some time for this amateur administration to get their story straight, but Trump will screw it up again....he's constant in that regard. There was no defined objective, but there is now.... Get the hell out of town as quickly as possible to at least try and save some face for the region and global damaged they caused. Those two are a couple of freaking embarrassments.... 1 Quote
User Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: The two ex-TV clowns originally had differing comments. It's taken some time for this amateur administration to get their story straight, but Trump will screw it up again....he's constant in that regard. There was no defined objective, but there is now.... Get the hell out of town as quickly as possible to at least try and save some face for the region and global damaged they caused. Those two are a couple of freaking embarrassments.... Except... that is not the story right now, that is YOUR fantasy. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, User said: Except... that is not the story right now, that is YOUR fantasy. No, the two TV guys are living out a fantasy and are in way over their heads. Elections have consequences... Quote
User Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 Just now, LinkSoul60 said: No, the two TV guys are living out a fantasy and are in way over their heads. Elections have consequences... Yes, random internet person who can't form their own opinion on this, you clearly know more than Hegseth or Trump... Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, User said: Yes, random internet person who can't form their own opinion on this, you clearly know more than Hegseth or Trump... Most people with half a brain know more than Hegseth or Trump. I can see why you look up to them as you do. Quote
User Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Most people with half a brain know more than Hegseth or Trump. I can see why you look up to them as you do. But remember, not you, you are not smart enough to say what they should be doing... Quote
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