Whitehouse says they did not think about the Straight of Hormuz?

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

With friends like that, who needs enemies. An alliance of leeches.

Send us a bill for being that threat deterrer.  You added another $2.2T in Trump's first year and obviously a war is going to cost a lot so have a few bills.  A few extra bucks here and there goes a long way. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, paxamericana said:

With friends like that, who needs enemies. 

That's literally what every nation in the entire planet has been saying about you. In fact I specifically said guess what's going to happen the next time you pick it unnecessary war and what everyone to help  

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

help

It’s not like there aren’t any help. The gulf state are helping along with the Israeli. But the usual deadbeat? What help? 

[LinkSoul60]

12 hours ago, paxamericana said:

With friends like that, who needs enemies. An alliance of leeches.

What exactly did the alliance leach...  I understand NATO spending and big brother being that deterrent to all others because of the alliance, but where were dollars spent by the US in the wars that have protected us?

You'll have few true friends as long as your imbecile president is in that seat, and be working hard for the next X amount of decades to mend those friendships because of his complete ignorance.  Take all the friends you can get, you need them.

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, paxamericana said:

It’s not like there aren’t any help. The gulf state are helping along with the Israeli. But the usual deadbeat? What help? 

Why would anyone help you losers? Trump started a war he can't finish and now he's crying like a baby that he needs someone to change his diapers because it's harder than he thought.

Like I said, you treat your buddies like complete shit don't be surprised if they're not there for you on moving day. Too bad you guys don't understand that and that your word doesn't mean anything to you

[User]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

What exactly did the alliance leach...  I understand NATO spending and big brother being that deterrent to all others because of the alliance, but where were dollars spent by the US in the wars that have protected us?

You'll have few true friends as long as your imbecile president is in that seat, and be working hard for the next X amount of decades to mend those friendships because of his complete ignorance.  Take all the friends you can get, you need them.

You were not much of a friend before Trump. You guys have been shirking your NATO obligations for most of NATO's existence. 

 

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, User said:

You were not much of a friend before Trump. You guys have been shirking your NATO obligations for most of NATO's existence. 

 

Bullshit. It's true we haven't been living up to our commitments the way we should but it's also true that with just about every single war you guys have picked we showed up and fought like hell.

And not just wars. Canadian warships with relief supplies for the first vessels off the coast when Katrina destroyed New Orleans. Canadian g-star teams dominated the rescue efforts for quite some time till you guys get your shit together. When 9/11 happened and everybody was worried that planes were going to start crashing into major buildings Canadians welcomed american aircraft that weren't allowed into their own airspace and took the people in and cared for them. When California burned we sent our fire bombers in large numbers and that's the only reason you got it back under control thanks to newsoms failure to keep the reservoirs filled.

That's in addition to our fighting in Afghanistan and the gulf wars etc

And when you said Ukraine was a priority Canadian government spent billions with American Military contractors to send weapons and air defense systems over

Canada has provided tons of land to support American detection systems in case of Russian attack that never gets factored into the costs.

 

Not to mention the fact that you guys showed up late when we desperately needed you for world war I and world war II. And how did that work out for you

So don't give me that bullshit. I'm the first to admit that we have not lived up to our commitments under NATO spending requirements and I think most Canadians think that that's a bad thing and they support Carney and raising our spending up to where it should be. But that is not the same as saying we haven't participated and we haven't been there and we haven't bled and died right beside you whenever you needed us.

And now that you're acting like a complete twat to us for no reason you're suddenly surprised that us and the rest of the world aren't excited about jumping up and helping you fight a war that you started without warning or consultation and with extremely questionable reasons.

I mean it's not the first time America has been dragged into a conflict to stop weapons of mass destruction in the middle east is it. I wonder if we'll ever find out if this time it was true.

Canada has been unbelievably good to you. Especially considering our relation started off with you invading our lands and trying to kill our people.

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

15 minutes ago, User said:

You were not much of a friend before Trump. You guys have been shirking your NATO obligations for most of NATO's existence. 

 

Yes we did, and you chump's happily paid for us.  Many thanks for that BTW.  You seem to have forgotten though that even today, our countries are solid friends.  We just happen to think your president is incredibly incapable, but he and that too shall pass.

[paxamericana]

45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why would anyone help you losers?

Oh don’t worry, what goes around comes around. No one is going to help Canada.

[User]

57 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Bullshit. It's true

LOL, so... it's true. 

Thanks for confirming, didn't need all the rest. 

52 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes we did, and you chump's happily paid for us.  Many thanks for that BTW.  You seem to have forgotten though that even today, our countries are solid friends.  We just happen to think your president is incredibly incapable, but he and that too shall pass.

Typical duplicity. 

Cry about friendship, get called out for your own actions, then turn around and be proud of it. 

Yeah, stop crying about the US if you are going to brag about your own bad actions. 

 

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, paxamericana said:

I get it, you’re upset. It’s not personal, you  are blinded by TDS to the point of being a parrot of the Iranian terrorist propaganda, lacking genuine thought or insight for me to engage.

STILL ^no FACTS, JUST BULLSHIT. 3 strikes and you're OUT. 

15 hours ago, paxamericana said:

With friends like that, who needs enemies. An alliance of leeches.

NATO members are under no obligation to join Trump's WAR OF CHOICE. Duh

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, paxamericana said:

It’s not like there aren’t any help. The gulf state are helping along with the Israeli. But the usual deadbeat? What help? 

Why should anyone help fix Trump's MESS?

 

[robosmith]

50 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Oh don’t worry, what goes around comes around. No one is going to help Canada.

Sure we will. No one in the US wants Russia on our Northern border, except maybe YOU.

[User]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Why should anyone help fix Trump's MESS?

 

Iran is doing these things; it is not Trump's mess. If the world cares enough about the disruption to the global economy, that is their motivation to help. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, User said:

LOL, so... it's true. 

Thanks for confirming, didn't need all the rest. 

 

 

Well of course you didn't read the rest, there's a lot of big words in there.  

Aren't you the little boy who constantly accuses others of running away? I didn't mean to scare you.

[User]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well of course you didn't read the rest, there's a lot of big words in there.  

Aren't you the little boy who constantly accuses others of running away? I didn't mean to scare you.

You mean, run away as Canada does from its NATO funding obligations?

Dude, if you or any other Canadians want to sit here talking shit about America, I am going to throw it back in your faces. 

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, User said:

You mean, run away as Canada does from its NATO funding obligations?

 

No I mean runaway like the cheesy little coward you were a few minutes ago.

 

28 minutes ago, User said:

Dude, if you or any other Canadians want to sit here talking shit about America, I am going to throw it back in your faces. 

If all you got is lies then Canada must be a hell of a lot better place than yours.

The good people here even when they have a legitimate criticism of America Aren't out there pissing on the contributions your soldiers make or the legitimately good things you've done.

If you have to lower yourself to that level then you are at least as bad as the lefties and the democrats and you're a dishonest person.

For 150 years we have fought by your side, Died By Your Side, often in wars we didn't start or have any need to participate in, cared for your people, shelter them smuggled them out when foreign nations wanted them dead, charged headlong to the rescue when disaster or threats put life at risk in your own borders and without and done more than our share to make sure you have the intelligence information and resources you need to protect your people

Don't shit on that. That's not okay. Plenty of legitimate things to complain about with Canada same as there's plenty of legitimate things to complain about regarding the us.  Stick to those

[LinkSoul60]

35 minutes ago, User said:

You mean, run away as Canada does from its NATO funding obligations?

Dude, if you or any other Canadians want to sit here talking shit about America, I am going to throw it back in your faces. 

And again....  Nobody is talking shît on America. It's a great country without Trump in it but therein lies the problem right now, he's in it.  A short inconvenience though....  6 years past your average life expectancy, out of shape and leading a cheeseburger filled sedentary lifestyle with the stress building daily.  

[User]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No I mean runaway like the cheesy little coward you were a few minutes ago.

You mean, run away from your NATO spending obligations like you have been year after year?

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If all you got is lies then Canada must be a hell of a lot better place than yours.

So... it is a lie that Canada has not been meeting its NATO spending obligations?

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, User said:

You mean, run away from your NATO spending obligations like you have been year after year?

So... it is a lie that Canada has not been meeting its NATO spending obligations?

 

Kind of. Trudeau and others made the argument that they met their commitments by providing things that had extreme value other than cash spending. That was accepted by the united states for a long time. Sorry to burst your bubble

And in fact if we include what is now allowed to be included under military spending we would have been very close to meeting our targets all the way along on top of that.

Make no mistake, Canada has been a very powerful ally to the states. Easily one of the strongest and often first into battle. Again, what years did world war I and world war II start for you?

Remember in the gulf war where a couple of American Pilots got confused and accidentally bombed a Canadian position killing several of our soldiers? Yet we forgave you almost immediately and still continue the fight

You giving us a hard time about how we have taken care of you as an ally is like a dope smoking left hard pissing on a veteran and telling him how easy war is

Lots of things you can pick a part about Canada. Just like there's lots of things you can pick apart about the us. But let's keep it real

[User]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kind of.

Kind of... No. The answer is still no. 

 

 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Oh don’t worry, what goes around comes around. No one is going to help Canada.

We don't get into any stupid wars! And our entire history we've never started a war, we're always coming running helping you or england.  The last time WE needed help was when YOU attcked us and we kicked your ass back across the line and burnt down your white house. 

You owe us about 5 major conflicts when you help us instead of the other way around before we're even

And yes you absolutely will come running if we need help because if we need help it means that Russia or China are seizing the land directly to your north and you cannot allow that to happen.

Read a book kid

[CdnFox]

Just now, User said:

Kind of... No. 

 

 

Kind of yes. Like I said the Americans accepted it for a long time. So there you go

And lets not forget the role the US played in reducing our expenditures.  We were well on the way to developing our own military tech which was better than yours when your president came up and demanded we cancel that on the spot. The avro arrow for example was better than anything similar the us was flying.  Guess you guys wanted to be the ones everyone bought from.  Sooooo you forced the cancellation of that and other programs 

You literally told us to stop spending, now you want to be a biatch about it? Big nope. 

 

Sorry kid.  THis isn't an argument you're going to win. 

[User]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kind of yes. Like I said the Americans accepted it for a long time. So there you go

And lets not forget the role the US played in reducing our expenditures.  We were well on the way to developing our own military tech which was better than yours when your president came up and demanded we cancel that on the spot. The avro arrow for example was better than anything similar the us was flying.  Guess you guys wanted to be the ones everyone bought from.  Sooooo you forced the cancellation of that and other programs 

You literally told us to stop spending, now you want to be a biatch about it? Big nope. 

 

Sorry kid.  THis isn't an argument you're going to win. 

So, no. 

Sorry, not interested in your excuses and fabrications. 

 

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, User said:

So, no. 

Sorry, not interested in your excuses and fabrications. 

 

So yes.

Why do you keep lying to yourself and pretending I said something I didn't? I think you've been standing too close to the lefties on the board lately, it seems to be catching