John Stone Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 ..........fer fk's sake - give the man his due, Trump is a megalomaniac, not a narcissist He's both? Noted! Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 10 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You still need to explain to me how China would “do something dramatic” in Canada with the NHL if we did a trade deal with them. Like give me an example of something they could only do to the NHL if Canada signed a trade deal that they couldn’t do now We knew what China did. That is how I could bring it up by memory. But, the US is a massive economy. We can shake off China associations with minimal to no negative side effects. Can Canada? If China demanded the NHL fly the Chinese flag (just an example) or they will discontinue trade, could Canada tell China to f-off? Not without the help of the US and your leaders are hell bent on severing ties with us. The point is, Canada does not have the economic weight to make big demands or refuse big demands. Neither the US or China need Canada to survive. The reverse is not true. Without the US or China, Canada will struggle mightily. If you get envolved with China, they will exploit your volunerabilities. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 12 hours ago, BeaverFever said: No he plays you gullible MAGA clowns like a fiddle. You worship an incompetent and corrupt nutjob So incompetent that he closed the border, is deporting you precious illegals and has the US economy bouncing back. You're a fool. A Tweenkie-ass little fool. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: f China demanded the NHL fly the Chinese flag (just an example) or they will discontinue trade, could Canada tell China to f-off? Not without the help of the US and your leaders are hell bent on severing ties with us. More ludicrous sane-washing Where to start? 1) USA cannot “shake off” trade disputes with China which is why Trump backed down from his China tariffs when China boycotted US agricultural products causing billions of dollars in US losses and cut off US access to critical minerals 2) NHL is a North American league with most of its teams in USA. It’s not controlled by the Canadian government and any Chinese bullying of NHL would involve the US government responding as well 3) Canada already trades a significant amount with China that is unavoidable A trade deal actually makes it HARDER for China to cut off trade, not easier 4) Trump said “The first thing China will do is terminate ALL Ice Hockey being played in Canada, and permanently eliminate The Stanley Cup,”. That is NOT in any way the same thing as vaguely suggesting China could theoretically make bizarre demands affecting hockey for nonsensical reasons, which is already an absurd suggestion in and of itself. To recap, NBA was temporarily banned from exhibition games and community programs IN CHINA due to criticism of China’s Hong Kong policy during the Hong Kong protests. That is not at all the same thing as saying China goes around the world interfering in sports being played in other peoples countries. To be a MAGA is to make ABSURD comparisons. I am sorry but there’s no sane-washing Trump’s ridiculous statement. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: So incompetent that he closed the border, is deporting you precious illegals and has the US economy bouncing back. You're a fool. A Tweenkie-ass little fool. So incompetent that his Gestapo force is tearing American society apart. You’re a fool who supports Putin and regularly repeats Russian propaganda no wonder you admire Trump, his American acolyte 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 36 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: More ludicrous sane-washing Where to start? 1) USA cannot “shake off” trade disputes with China which is why Trump backed down from his China tariffs when China boycotted US agricultural products causing billions of dollars in US losses and cut off US access to critical minerals 2) NHL is a North American league with most of its teams in USA. It’s not controlled by the Canadian government and any Chinese bullying of NHL would involve the US government responding as well 3) Canada already trades a significant amount with China that is unavoidable A trade deal actually makes it HARDER for China to cut off trade, not easier 4) Trump said “The first thing China will do is terminate ALL Ice Hockey being played in Canada, and permanently eliminate The Stanley Cup,”. That is NOT in any way the same thing as vaguely suggesting China could theoretically make bizarre demands affecting hockey for nonsensical reasons, which is already an absurd suggestion in and of itself. To recap, NBA was temporarily banned from exhibition games and community programs IN CHINA due to criticism of China’s Hong Kong policy during the Hong Kong protests. That is not at all the same thing as saying China goes around the world interfering in sports being played in other peoples countries. To be a MAGA is to make ABSURD comparisons. I am sorry but there’s no sane-washing Trump’s ridiculous statement. You are missing the point. Trump is telling you that China does not play fair. If you think that signing an agreement means anything to them, you are naive. The moment you sign an agreement with them, they will violate it and demand new terms. If you are dumb enough to sign those new terms, they will do it again. They will keep doing it until you fight back with substantial leverage. Leverage you don't have. He is not saying they will take the NHL specifically. He is saying they will hit you where it hurts you the most. Listen to that advice. Did they do that to us? Yeah. But we can absorb those hits. And we hit back by turning India our way. Can you hit back? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) 47 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: So incompetent that his Gestapo force is tearing American society apart. You’re a fool who supports Putin and regularly repeats Russian propaganda no wonder you admire Trump, his American acolyte Whine, whine, whine. The FACT is, I admire common sense and truth, as that is where reality lives. DHS and ICE operate quite effectively and without rioting, all over America. They're getting criminals...and all those illegal ballots...out of the country. Quite the service to safety and American Democracy. And BY FAR the American population agree with that. https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2025/03/26/views-on-deportations-and-arrests-of-immigrants-in-the-u-s-illegally/ Now...little rodent...perhaps you should grow the fck up and live within the bounds of reality, instead of thinking your particularly warped perceptions are anything more than Libbie fluff. Edited February 11 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Whine, whine, whine. The FACT is, I admire common sense and truth, as that is where reality lives. DHS and ICE operate quite effectively and without rioting, all over America. They're getting criminals...and all those illegal ballots...out of the country. Quite the service to safety and American Democracy. And BY FAR the American population agree with that. https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2025/03/26/views-on-deportations-and-arrests-of-immigrants-in-the-u-s-illegally/ Now...little rodent...perhaps you should grow the fck up and live within the bounds of reality, instead of thinking your particularly warped perceptions are anything more than Libbie fluff. Your cited poll is A YEAR OLD, and Trump's policies poll NO WHERE NEAR those TODAY, LIAR. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 22 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your cited poll is A YEAR OLD, and Trump's policies poll NO WHERE NEAR those TODAY, LIAR. You cite no proof LIAR! Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
BeaverFever Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: You are missing the point. Trump is telling you that China does not play fair. If you think that signing an agreement means anything to them, you are naive. The moment you sign an agreement with them, they will violate it and demand new terms. If you are dumb enough to sign those new terms, they will do it again. They will keep doing it until you fight back with substantial leverage. 1) What you describe is EXACTLY what Trump has done since he took office. Tariffs on Canada despite the free trade agreement HE SIGNED still being in effect. Threatening to annex NATO allies. Negotiating a tariff deal with Europe them unilaterally threatening to increase the tariffs if they don’t hand over Greenland. Endless lies and insults. Constantly making threats and outrageous demands then reversing himself, way more erratic and unstable than China while consistently showing he’s not any less of a threat 2) We don’t need any lectures from Trump or other clueless MAGA nutjobs about China. Americans are the least informed people when it comes to knowledge of other countries and MAGAs are the least informed Americans. We know better than you what China is capable of and what the risks are and what they aren’t. And we can manage accordingly. 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Leverage you don't have. You have no clue what leverage Canada does or doesn’t have. 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: He is not saying they will take the NHL specifically. He is saying they will hit you where it hurts you the most. Listen to that advice. Stop sane-washing his nonsense. I provided the exact quote of what he said stop pretending he said something else. 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Did they do that to us? Yeah. But we can absorb those hits. And we hit back by turning India our way. Can you hit back? Opposite of reality falsehoods. Trump folded like a cheap suit when China hit back. Trump hit India with 50% tariffs and then chickened out when India hit back. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: 1) What you describe is EXACTLY what Trump has done since he took office. Tariffs on Canada despite the free trade agreement HE SIGNED still being in effect. Threatening to annex NATO allies. Negotiating a tariff deal with Europe them unilaterally threatening to increase the tariffs if they don’t hand over Greenland. Endless lies and insults. Constantly making threats and outrageous demands then reversing himself, way more erratic and unstable than China while consistently showing he’s not any less of a threat 2) We don’t need any lectures from Trump or other clueless MAGA nutjobs about China. Americans are the least informed people when it comes to knowledge of other countries and MAGAs are the least informed Americans. We know better than you what China is capable of and what the risks are and what they aren’t. And we can manage accordingly. You have no clue what leverage Canada does or doesn’t have. Stop sane-washing his nonsense. I provided the exact quote of what he said stop pretending he said something else. Opposite of reality falsehoods. Trump folded like a cheap suit when China hit back. Trump hit India with 50% tariffs and then chickened out when India hit back. Yeah. I figured that is how that would go. Good luck. Go get your asś kicked by China because you can't stand that Trump is right. That will show us. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
BeaverFever Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 35 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Yeah. I figured that is how that would go. Good luck. Go get your asś kicked by China because you can't stand that Trump is right. That will show us. You have no clue what you’re talking about, you really don’t. 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Whine, whine, whine. The FACT is, I admire common sense and truth, as that is where reality lives. DHS and ICE operate quite effectively and without rioting, all over America. They're getting criminals...and all those illegal ballots...out of the country. Quite the service to safety and American Democracy. And BY FAR the American population agree with that. https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2025/03/26/views-on-deportations-and-arrests-of-immigrants-in-the-u-s-illegally/ Now...little rodent...perhaps you should grow the fck up and live within the bounds of reality, instead of thinking your particularly warped perceptions are anything more than Libbie fluff. “Illegal ballots” omg you’re still on rhe election conspiracy batshit too, thanks for reminding me. LMAO you are internet conspiracy kook, plain and simple. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 21 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: You have no clue what you’re talking about, you really don’t. And you are dumb enough to believe that you can get a fair trade deal with a country that uses slave labor. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
BeaverFever Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: And you are dumb enough to believe that you can get a fair trade deal with a country that uses slave labor. We can manage China just fine. What you don’t know is that they are already one our largest trading partners, just as they are with USA. There’s nothing they can do to us that they can’t already do to us. You act as if Canada has never dealt with China before and we need you MAGAs to Trump-splain it to us. Canda is an advanced G7 economy with the most educated population in the world. Our PM is a globally recognized expert who surrounds himself with more experts while your president is a globally recognized know-nothing buffoon and laughingstock who surrounds himself with more unqualified buffoons and crackpots. We know what we’re doing and what we’re dealing with. You’re as ignorant about Canada as you are about China. Quote
robosmith Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 52 minutes ago, Legato said: "Our PM is a globally recognized expert" I'll see your STUPID MEME and raise you EVIDENCE: LMAO Quote Mark Carney is a globally recognized authority in finance and climate action, currently serving as the Prime Minister of Canada as of March 2025. Renowned as the former Governor of the Bank of England and Bank of Canada, he has pioneered efforts in linking climate change risk to financial stability. Al Jazeera +2 Key Aspects of Expertise and Career: Prime Minister of Canada: Assumed office on March 14, 2025. Climate & Finance Expert: Served as UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance, advocating for net-zero solutions. "Tragedy of the Horizon" Speech: Famous 2015 speech outlining climate change as a core financial risk. Financial Leadership: Governor of the Bank of England (2013–2020) and Bank of Canada (2008–2013), steering policy during global crises. International Recognition: A prominent figure at the World Economic Forum, recognized for leadership in global economics and policy. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You have no clue what you’re talking about, you really don’t. “Illegal ballots” omg you’re still on rhe election conspiracy batshit too, thanks for reminding me. LMAO you are internet conspiracy kook, plain and simple. And yet as time goes by, your whole platform of lies and biatchiness...falls apart. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 3 hours ago, robosmith said: I'll see your STUPID MEME and raise you EVIDENCE: LMAO Al Jizzera. Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: And yet as time goes by, your whole platform of lies and biatchiness...falls apart. False, Putin puppet 5 hours ago, Legato said: "Our PM is a globally recognized expert" That’s a fact jack. The facts don’t care about your feelings. Quote
Legato Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 16 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: False, Putin puppet That’s a fact jack. The facts don’t care about your feelings. Depends on who blabs them. The blabber you accept as fact is bent to suit your view. Real facts are beyond your abilities. Do you feel that? The Carney is nothing more then an accomplished charlatan. 1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 7 hours ago, BeaverFever said: False, Putin puppet That’s a fact jack. The facts don’t care about your feelings. You use a lot of common sayings but they mean nothing coming from a lyin', destructive traitor like you. Whine away...little rodent. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: You use a lot of common sayings but they mean nothing coming from a lyin', destructive traitor like you. Whine away...little rodent. LMAO “traitor” says the Putin supporter. That’s the rich! You are a sad pathetic gullible loser living in a fake news bubble. 10 hours ago, Legato said: Depends on who blabs them. The blabber you accept as fact is bent to suit your view. Real facts are beyond your abilities. Do you feel that? The Carney is nothing more then an accomplished charlatan. No, his resume speaks for itself as do the praise he receives from political and business leaders around the world. You just don’t like him because you foolishly follow UNACCOMPLISHED charlatans. Edited February 12 by BeaverFever Quote
John Stone Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 China sees things very clearly and acts accordingly. What China sees is the Global Economy and an expanded Silk Road. It's all business with China - its not personal. Likely we'll all be dialing 1 for Chinese in the not too distant future. Russia will likely become a pseudo Chinese puppet - Quote
Legato Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO “traitor” says the Putin supporter. That’s the rich! You are a sad pathetic gullible loser living in a fake news bubble. No, his resume speaks for itself as do the praise he receives from political and business leaders around the world. You just don’t like him because you foolishly follow UNACCOMPLISHED charlatans. Praise is one amorphous thing, actual accomplishments are are another. Do tell us how his supreme business sense has improved things for the average Canadian. His resume speaks only in Brookfield terms. Charlatan is his name. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 28 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO “traitor” says the Putin supporter. That’s the rich! You are a sad pathetic gullible loser living in a fake news bubble. You are a traitor. You want this flood of criminals in both Canada and the USA. You want to destroy both nations. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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