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Posted
8 minutes ago, ironstone said:

So how did ICE deport criminal illegal aliens from Minneapolis during Obama's two terms? Undoubtably Obama got a lot more cooperation from all states than Trump is getting, including much less coverage by the media.

What precisely was different back then from a procedural perspective?

They arrested them like we always have. Not with masked goon squads roaming the streets like the JV version of Kristallnacht. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

They arrested them like we always have. Not with masked goon squads roaming the streets like the JV version of Kristallnacht. 

That's rather vague. What precisely happened when 'they arrested them like we always do'? How exactly did they approach the suspect? At the place of employment? Did they gently knock on his door and plead with him to come out? Just one officer? Two or more? 

You guys keep bringing up masks without acknowledging that there is the very real threat of doxxing.

Keep in mind that back in Obama's two terms, I'm sure ICE did not have to deal with protesters actively trying to impede their every move.

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Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...

Posted
3 hours ago, ironstone said:

Could you express yourself in clearer terms? $75B goon squad refers to....? If you mean ICE, why not just say it?

In the case of Pretti's murder, it was mainly Border Patrol and maybe some ICE.

Basically all the new ICE officers are UNTRAINED because there wasn't time to do more than rudimentary training which is normally MONTHS.

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Bupkis.

^Didn't think at all. 

Posted
3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You cheered:

  • when children and young adults were forced to take a dangerous injection that they didn't want or need

Now you're protecting:

  • woman-beaters
  • rapists
  • murderers
  • drug dealers
  • human traffickers
  • pedophiles
  • child-sodomizers. 

That's why we hate each other so much: the people that I would die to protect are the prey for the criminals that you adore. 

You're a FOOL if you believe your list is the extent of who ICE is terrorizing.

And a LIAR.

Posted
2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I know you're ANTIFA. A terrorist organization. 

Did you even see Congressmen being questioned about ANTIFA?

They didn't know ANY of the answers. Like you all they know is what Trump told them and you're all stupid enough to believe him. LMAO

Posted
45 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Unequal behavior--particularly bad behavior--begets unequal coverage. That's normal. 

And you know full well that hardly anyone is fussy about deportations. If Trump were doing it in a normal fashion like past presidents, he'd get the same reaction. But instead he's got masked thugs deployed en masse abducting people, beating people, killing people, harassing and arresting brown citizens simply for being brown in the wrong place and time, and engaging in other senseless actually of cruelty. Why? For th stated purpose of terrorizing those populations. It's explicit and deliberate. And it's completely disingenuous for you to pretend this is an apples-to-apples comparison, let alone unfair coverage. Unbelievable.

You forgot the priest who was shot in the head with a pepper ball.

I know it's hard to keep track because there are so many. 

Like Bovino being judicial ordered to stop the tear gas, so he runs out and throws a canister HIMSELF.

Posted
14 minutes ago, ironstone said:

That's rather vague. What precisely happened when 'they arrested them like we always do'? How exactly did they approach the suspect? At the place of employment? Did they gently knock on his door and plead with him to come out? Just one officer? Two or more? 

You guys keep bringing up masks without acknowledging that there is the very real threat of doxxing.

Keep in mind that back in Obama's two terms, I'm sure ICE did not have to deal with protesters actively trying to impede their every move.

Do you  have ANY idea what "police work" is?

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, ironstone said:

That's rather vague. What precisely happened when 'they arrested them like we always do'? How exactly did they approach the suspect? At the place of employment? Did they gently knock on his door and plead with him to come out? Just one officer? Two or more? 

You guys keep bringing up masks without acknowledging that there is the very real threat of doxxing.

Keep in mind that back in Obama's two terms, I'm sure ICE did not have to deal with protesters actively trying to impede their every move.

ICE has never needed masks before because they were a legitimate law enforcement agency rather than a paramilitary goon squad. 

Nobody was interested in doxxing agents because the agents weren't engaged in this abhorrent behavior. 

The conversation probably went approximately like this:

Trumpco: We want to create a pervasive terror among the immigrant community so they GTFO. To make that happen, we're going to ask you to do some truly awful shit. 

ICE: Okay, but won't people hate us? 

Trumpco: Probably, but we're going to give you masks so nobody can see who you are. 

ICE: Like criminals? 

Trumpco: Yeah, same rationale. So you don't have to be accountable to the public for perpetrating the aforementioned awful shit. 

 

It's not that doxxing wasn't a possibility before. They simply knew that they were going to start crossing lines--both legally and in terms of human decency. They prepared accordingly. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

And now, representing /0, another dazzling, masterpiece of a retort from the Jethro Bodine clan.

Well done, gomer.

I apologise if you have a stutter but you do sound a lot like Joe Biden.

Please excuse me for thinking that you may, just may, understand the meaning of divide by zero.

Posted
4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 Michael, stop telling people that you're a conservative. It's embarrassing for us.  

You just said conservatives don't march in lock step, and now you're telling me what to do, how to act.

There's a word for that behavior and it's not conservative.

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Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase !

Michael Hardner

Posted
25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Did you even see Congressmen being questioned about ANTIFA?

They didn't know ANY of the answers. Like you all they know is what Trump told them and you're all stupid enough to believe him. LMAO

I know all I need. You're ANTIFA and eventually the law will catch up to you.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
2 hours ago, Legato said:

I apologise if you have a stutter but you do sound a lot like Joe Biden.

Please excuse me for thinking that you may, just may, understand the meaning of divide by zero.

Division by 0 isnt defined, Einstein. 

The symbol "/0" (or a slashed zero) represents the digit zero, specifically designed to distinguish it from the capital letter 'O' in programming, mathematics, and data entry. 

 

Is all you've got is insults, halfwit?

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

You just said conservatives don't march in lock step, and now you're telling me what to do, how to act.

There's a word for that behavior and it's not conservative.

Its kind of fun watching y'all argue over whos the real conservative. 

But, your both every bit as stu pid as the other,

I deem it a tie.

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Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

"Conservative" "Conserve" "Keep and tend to old things of value"

OK, but I'm still not buying it. If you're all about conserving the past you're conserving the bad with the good. We used to call the Progressive Conservatives the Forward- backwards party. Sounds like you want to have it both ways, while at the same time implying liberals don't want to keep the good parts of tradition and policy.

If I was rich and powerful I might want to keep things just as they are, too. That's a feudal mentality that puts brakes on upward mobility.

 "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

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Posted (edited)
46 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

OK, but I'm still not buying it. If you're all about conserving the past you're conserving the bad with the good. We used to call the Progressive Conservatives the Forward- backwards party. Sounds like you want to have it both ways, while at the same time implying liberals don't want to keep the good parts of tradition and policy.

If I was rich and powerful I might want to keep things just as they are, too. That's a feudal mentality that puts brakes on upward mobility.

 "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

What nonsense. 

While it's true that change is harder for most Conservatives, your premise that Conservatives do not want beneficial change is...as I said...nonsense. 

It was Conservatives that freed the slaves.

It was Conservatives that gave women the right to vote.

It was a Conservative...Jeannette Rankin...who was the first woman in The House of Representatives. 

It was a Conservative who put Jackie Robinson on the field.

Shall I go on? I can if you want.

Please try not lying so blatantly. It only exposes you as a liar...and dishonors your family.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
50 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

While it's true that change is harder for most Conservatives, your premise that Conservatives do not want beneficial change is...as I said...nonsense. 

So you're saying conservatives can enact liberal policies. Good for them.  But then why do you guys call all liberals Leftards and traitors... or worse?

I was arguing about definitions and the false dichotomy implied.

Posted
22 hours ago, User said:

that is because the average lifespan was like 40 for much of that time

Research indicates that human intellectual output and cognitive performance often reach a peak around age 35, entering a "hump-shaped curve" where performance increases through early adulthood, stabilizes, and then begins a gradual decline around age 45.

Visual Artists: Prolific output for painters and visual artists often peaks around age 35, where they hit a sweet spot of fresh creativity and refined technique.
Musicians: For musicians, particularly in improvisational or performance-driven genres, peak creative output often hits around age 36.

While the average life expectancy at birth in the 19th century was low—generally between 30 and 40 years due to high infant and child mortality—educated, upper-class, or elite individuals who survived childhood lived much longer. For this demographic, it was not uncommon to live into their 60s, 70s, or even 80s. 

Educated or elite individuals in the Renaissance (e.g., scholars, artists, merchants) who survived childhood often lived to be 50–70 years old. While overall life expectancy at birth was low (roughly 30–40 years) due to high infant mortality, adults in this class benefited from better nutrition and sanitation, frequently living into their 60s

Posted
23 hours ago, ironstone said:

He literally gets called out on EVERYTHING he says by the leftist dominated media. I doubt that any other US president in history has been attacked at much has Trump has.

If Trump was in cognitive decline, I think a clear sign of that would be if his inner circle kept him away from the media as much as possible, as was done with Biden.

No one factchecks him to his face. They just let him 'weave' his lies, boasts and accustions ad nauseum.

And oh, yeah, the right went easy on Obama...

I never said he was in cognitive decline. I just said he's full of shit.

Posted
11 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Division by 0 isnt defined, Einstein. 

The symbol "/0" (or a slashed zero) represents the digit zero, specifically designed to distinguish it from the capital letter 'O' in programming, mathematics, and data entry. 

 

Is all you've got is insults, halfwit?

 

 

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A post decrying insults ending with an insult...well done.

10/5=2...Well looky, there's a division sign.

So you have zero insight into a divide by zero problem, thought not.

And here's a slash zero for your perusal.....ø

Posted
9 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

No one factchecks him to his face. They just let him 'weave' his lies, boasts and accustions ad nauseum.

When he engages with the press, there is back and forth all the time and they do challenge him all the time. Any time he's appeared on any of the big leftist networks like CNN, MSNBC and the like, they push him constantly.

The 'right' did not go easy on Obama, but the mainstream media sure did. (FOX being one of the few exceptions)

Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...

Posted
16 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

No one factchecks him to his face. They just let him 'weave' his lies, boasts and accustions ad nauseum.

And oh, yeah, the right went easy on Obama...

I never said he was in cognitive decline. I just said he's full of shit.

You know that's not true, don't let your TDS put words in your mouth.

Posted
35 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Research indicates that human intellectual output and cognitive performance often reach a peak around age 35

If only your claim was about “peak output”

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

So you're saying conservatives can enact liberal policies. Good for them.  But then why do you guys call all liberals Leftards and traitors... or worse?

I was arguing about definitions and the false dichotomy implied.

That's easy.

Open border.

Violent opposition to law enforcement. 

Men in women's sports.

Lying.

Take your pick.

Fact is...today's "Libbie" is not a "Liberal". Today's Libbie is an Anarchist. These people do not understand finance or patriotism. They appear to be full of hatred for everything American. 

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

OK, but I'm still not buying it. If you're all about conserving the past you're conserving the bad with the good. We used to call the Progressive Conservatives the Forward- backwards party. Sounds like you want to have it both ways, while at the same time implying liberals don't want to keep the good parts of tradition and policy.

If I was rich and powerful I might want to keep things just as they are, too. That's a feudal mentality that puts brakes on upward mobility.

 "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

True enough.  That would be a perspective.

 

But things DO change, and our institutions are designed to accommodate it.

 

Are individual conservatives resistant to change?

 

Of course.

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Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase !

Michael Hardner

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