ExFlyer Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 22 hours ago, eyeball said: This is a good ruling following on the heels of the Public Order Emergency Commission in 2023 who said using the Emergency act was reasonable. However, Commissioner Paul Rouleau at the time said the facts supporting his determination were not overwhelming and that other reasonable and informed people could come to a different conclusion. It's good to know where we stand now. BTW have they withdrawn the tanks and sent them back to their depot? And in the end...who really gives a shite now...except some losers told ya soers and...what is gonna be done...? Nuthin 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 18 Author Report Posted January 18 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Because:1: Trudeau is gone. ( His people are still here and they're the ones that agreed to this. I need an end voted for that and she still one of the more prominent members of the cabinet. The majority of liberals serving are the liberals that voted for this Sorry to break it to you kid but there's more than one person in the liberal party Sorry to break the news to you.) Quote 2: The Liberals are doing a good job now. They are doing a terrible job by any reasonable measure. And are you telling me that it's okay to violate people's human rights as long as you want provided at some point you do a good job? Is that how your morals work? Basically your morals are for sale Quote 3: The Cons don't have a leader . You just don't particularly like him but they have a very good leader who's quite competent. Let's get real, you're probably never going to like any conservative leader at all. Did you vote for Evernote tool? He's arguably every bit as liberal as carney. So what it boils down to is you're willing to sell your morals and your ethics because of your hatred for people that don't agree with you Is that the kind of person you really want to be?. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So what it boils down to is you're willing to sell your morals and your ethics because of your hatred for people that don't agree with you. Look at what your hatred for anyone who doesn't share your love for Poilievre has done. You jump to ridiculous conclusions, maintain stupid assumptions, lie through your teeth and make a complete asshat of yourself. 13 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Is that the kind of person you really want to be?. I'd sooner be keel-hauled thanks. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Venandi Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 (edited) 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'd sooner be keel-hauled thanks. Cool... I've done 5 deployments with the navy and share your passion for the traditions of old. I'll bring the rope. Edited January 18 by Venandi 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 18 Author Report Posted January 18 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Look at what your hatred for anyone who doesn't share your love for Poilievre has done. Sorry you're just trying to put your own hatred and prejudices on other people. I don't hate anyone who doesn't share my views, I do hate well that girls for what they actually have done and I think people that kept them in power have to explain themselves. That's not the same thing 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: You jump to ridiculous conclusions, maintain stupid assumptions, lie through your teeth and make a complete asshat of yourself. No, that's huge again trying to defend the fact that every single time we have a discussion you wind up looking like a twat because you can't stick to the truth. Your problem is that deep down you hate what you are. You know the kind of person you are is wrong. So you wind up having to change your story regularly, to support the terrorists you don't support the terrorists etc etc and you feel the need to blame your feelings and the feelings of the people you support on everyone else. It's always harpers fault or it's my fault or it's conservatives fault. Sorry kid. You're about 10 steps too far below me on the intelligence scale to get away with that kind of gas lighting 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 27 minutes ago, Venandi said: Cool... I've done 5 deployments with the navy and share your passion for the traditions of old. I'll bring the rope. I'll bring my knife. I never step aboard a boat without one, it's a tradition. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Venandi Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: 'll bring my knife. I never step aboard a boat without one, it's a tradition. So is searching those about to be keel-hauled for knives... dress of the day is underwear. Edited January 18 by Venandi 1 Quote
Legato Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 38 minutes ago, Venandi said: Cool... I've done 5 deployments with the navy and share your passion for the traditions of old. I'll bring the rope. and I'll bring the barnacles. Quote
eyeball Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 30 minutes ago, Venandi said: So is searching those about to be keel-hauled for knives... dress of the day is underwear. You might get keel-hauled if I catch you without a good sharp knife on my boat. You'll certainly be relegated to puke-bag dispenser. Like I said...it's a tradition. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 18 Author Report Posted January 18 50 minutes ago, eyeball said: You might get keel-hauled if I catch you without a good sharp knife on my boat. You'll certainly be relegated to puke-bag dispenser. Like I said...it's a tradition. Are you okay? You're kind of starting to make this weird..... 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Are you okay? You're kind of starting to make this weird..... Life and work at sea is always a little strange to landlubbers, especially when they live in a basement. And btw the head is not the sick bay. You'll only feel worse if you go there. Take the bag or suck it up. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 19 Author Report Posted January 19 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Life and work at sea is always a little strange to landlubbers, especially when they live in a basement. You sound like the one in the basement And your knowledge of what goes on in the sea sounds like it's informed by your years of experience in the bathtub 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 49 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You sound like the one in the basement And your knowledge of what goes on in the sea sounds like it's informed by your years of experience in the bathtub It's called an engine room. I probably got started in a bathtub all right. My first boat was a couple logs, a piece of plywood and was powered by a couple of broken goalie sticks. We almost made it out of Frenchman's Bay into Lake Ontario but we started taking green ones over the bow. We had to swim back. Live and learn. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 19 Author Report Posted January 19 13 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's called an engine room. Well you can call your bathtub whatever you like big guy! 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: My first boat was a couple logs, a piece of plywood and was powered by a couple of broken goalie sticks. Sure And you rowed it to school 10 miles each day uphill both ways 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Goddess Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 8 hours ago, ExFlyer said: And in the end...who really gives a shite now. You have no idea what this means, do you? I mean, I'm not surprised you have no clue what's going on, but Geez, man. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Sure And you rowed it to school 10 miles each day uphill both ways No, it never survived its maiden voyage. You opted for the course in English miscomprehension didn't you? A graduate cum laude for sure. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 ........... suppose the silver lining is that the use of what is deemed excessive force raises legitimacy problems, political problems? Be grateful for that. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: Evernote tool Who the phuck is Evernote Tool? I'm guessing from his last name he's a Con... 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 11 hours ago, Goddess said: You have no idea what this means, do you? I mean, I'm not surprised you have no clue what's going on, but Geez, man. Sure do...seems you do not understand the consequences and outcomes and results...ZERO 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 20 hours ago, eyeball said: Oh, you mean he followed Trudeau's example and let experts guide policy. What 'experts' were these? The people who guide Ford are people who slip money into his pockets. The people who guided Trudeau were people able to spin tall tales and promise him money after he left power. Experts? You mean like the Century Initiative? Those experts? Those are the people you want the government to be guided by? The corporate hacks? 20 hours ago, eyeball said: A right wing conservative in the PMO during COVID would have been even worse. It would have very likely pandered to this pillar of support propping up the base. It would have been a disaster. Like Florida was? 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted January 19 Author Report Posted January 19 14 hours ago, eyeball said: No, it never survived its maiden voyage. Sounds like your boat building skills are right up there with your debate skills 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 19 Author Report Posted January 19 5 hours ago, John Stone said: ........... suppose the silver lining is that the use of what is deemed excessive force raises legitimacy problems, political problems? Be grateful for that. Does it tho? Will the people who violated the human rights of the protesters pay a price? Were the libs held accountable in the next election? What's to stop the next gov't from making the same 'mistake'? There's no consequences at all so i'm not sure i see the 'legitimacy' problems for the people who did this, many of whom are still in gov't Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 15 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Does it tho? Will the people who violated the human rights of the protesters pay a price? Were the libs held accountable in the next election? What's to stop the next gov't from making the same 'mistake'? There's no consequences at all so i'm not sure i see the 'legitimacy' problems for the people who did this, many of whom are still in gov't 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Does it tho? Will the people who violated the human rights of the protesters pay a price? Were the libs held accountable in the next election? What's to stop the next gov't from making the same 'mistake'? There's no consequences at all so i'm not sure i see the 'legitimacy' problems for the people who did this, many of whom are still in gov't Condemnation is a precedent ........ definitely have some impact on political decisions going forward. Of course the opposite is also true ............... a slippery slope in precedent as well. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 19 Author Report Posted January 19 (edited) 44 minutes ago, John Stone said: Condemnation is a precedent ........ definitely have some impact on political decisions going forward. Of course the opposite is also true ............... a slippery slope in precedent as well. Condemnation is only a precedent if it has consequence. Otherwise the president is you can do whatever you want in this regard and nothing substantial will happen I'm not sure I see how this is going to have impact on political decisions moving forward. I'm trying to imagine Justin Trudeau in exactly the same position and even with this ruling in place I think he would find a way to do the same thing again. If you suffer no consequence why wouldn't you? This is my biggest concern. What we've really done is set a precedent that says if you take away the rights of Canadians unlawfully without lawful excuse then the consequence is that five years later somebody will say you probably shouldn't have done that tsk tsk and that's it That's not a president I'm excited about. Edited January 19 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: What 'experts' were these? Doctors, scientists, epidemiologist...specialists...the usual. 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: Like Florida was? Amongst others. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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