paxamericana Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 (edited) Trump to weigh decision . I would argue that it’s not just Iran that is ready for a regime change. Cuba is next to fall. Canadian agitator and robo are no doubt cheering for the murderous Ayatollah regime and other dictators. TDS is all encompassing. https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/iran-protests-01-11-26 Edited January 11 by paxamericana Quote
John Stone Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 I just have a difficult time imagining people in the streets applauding U.S. bombing of their country? And then of course there is the Regional concern. What is the upside - democracy? bwabwabwabwa. Quote
Deluge Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, John Stone said: I just have a difficult time imagining people in the streets applauding U.S. bombing of their country? And then of course there is the Regional concern. What is the upside - democracy? bwabwabwabwa. democrats want democracy so there is no upside. Quote
John Stone Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 27 minutes ago, Deluge said: democrats want democracy so there is no upside. yeah, all political hacks pi$$ down ur back and tell u it's raining. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 IMO...The US should stay out of this one. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Gaétan Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 I do not believe that the government is responsible for inflation in Iran. If the country is not self-sufficient, it is not the government that dictates the price of beans and flour, but international trade. Therefore, the citizens of this country should aim correctly and turn against the Western countries that deliberately raise prices to create chaos. I think there is a conspiracy, and indeed there are sanctions against this country, which may be the cause. The people and journalists should aim correctly and blame and protest in front of the embassies of European and American countries. We saw that a recent protest in Mexico was organized by an influencer who was paid by PAN, an opposing party, and there was damage. The president of Mexico is one of the most respectable leaders in the world. There is currently a psychopath leading the United States, and the media only fuels his delusions. This kind of illness is not treatable. 1 Quote
John Stone Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 .. 48 minutes ago, Gaétan said: I do not believe that the government is responsible for inflation in Iran. If the country is not self-sufficient, it is not the government that dictates the price of beans and flour, but international trade. Therefore, the citizens of this country should aim correctly and turn against the Western countries that deliberately raise prices to create chaos. I think there is a conspiracy, and indeed there are sanctions against this country, which may be the cause. The people and journalists should aim correctly and blame and protest in front of the embassies of European and American countries. We saw that a recent protest in Mexico was organized by an influencer who was paid by PAN, an opposing party, and there was damage. The president of Mexico is one of the most respectable leaders in the world. There is currently a psychopath leading the United States, and the media only fuels his delusions. This kind of illness is not treatable. .............. one thing is certain and that is you can't eat ideology. Allahu Akbar ............ sure, but he won't feed you. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 23 hours ago, John Stone said: I just have a difficult time imagining people in the streets applauding U.S. bombing of their country? This is the result of the first bombing. That said, it is hard to say. I am sure some will be mad. Some might not be. I know some people (on this board even) would celebrate Iran killing Trump. So I have to assume some in Iran would support Trump killing Ali Khamenei. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 29 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: This is the result of the first bombing. That said, it is hard to say. I am sure some will be mad. Some might not be. I know some people (on this board even) would celebrate Iran killing Trump. So I have to assume some in Iran would support Trump killing Ali Khamenei. There are some on this board who blame Trump for the street demonstrations and the resulting and no doubt increasing death toll by providing the demonstrators with false hope / support. I say fk the Iranians ........... be grateful they don't have the bomb. Anyone remember the Iran-hostage crisis? ....... akin to Afghanistan ........ the Iranian's had their chance for change .........warts and all. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 On 1/12/2026 at 7:06 AM, John Stone said: What is the upside - democracy? When you country has oil, it can always use more freedom Quote
robosmith Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 9 hours ago, John Stone said: There are some on this board who blame Trump for the street demonstrations and the resulting and no doubt increasing death toll by providing the demonstrators with false hope / support. I say fk the Iranians ........... be grateful they don't have the bomb. Anyone remember the Iran-hostage crisis? ....... akin to Afghanistan ........ the Iranian's had their chance for change .........warts and all. Anyone remember the CIA leading/financing a coup against he elected leader of Iran to install Reza Shah Pahlavi as a dictator because he would service to US demands? The Iranians who took US hostages certainly did. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 12,000 to 20,000 dead Iranians according to John Fetterman. Trump says help is on the way and plays coy after that. I don't know what is going to happen but I can't figure anyway we don't provide some military support. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 While y'all are lasered-in on Iran...Cuba looks like a nice treat... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 (edited) 14 hours ago, robosmith said: Anyone remember the CIA leading/financing a coup against he elected leader of Iran to install Reza Shah Pahlavi as a dictator because he would service to US demands? The Iranians who took US hostages certainly did. Yeah, his (Shah) autocratic regime and suppression of dissent led to widespread unrest leading to the Iranian Revolution, 1979. Post, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi overthrow, the Islamic Republic under Ayatollah Khomeini was ushered in. Arguably Iran would have been farther ahead with a corrupt and oppressive regime vs. a pan-sectarian oppressive regime. The corrupt and oppressive regime of the Shah would have at least provided for U.S. continued support. ……….. careful what u wish for? Now they want U.S. support?? A bridge too far. Edited January 14 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 14 hours ago, paxamericana said: When you country has oil, it can always use more freedom Yeah, maybe a plethora of democracy would get Iran's oil sanctions lifted? China would be relieved Too funny. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, John Stone said: China would be relieved Only if they kowtow to America and decides to play nice. Quote
John Stone Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 16 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Only if they kowtow to America and decides to play nice. haha - if only............. the truth is the flow of Iranian oil to the ChiComs has never ceased. In any event, your statement reflects what they're saying............ to the West in toto. ........... their strategy is not limited by partisanship politics and is long term. Democracy is killing us ..........? Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 The Iranian government has had literally thousands of years of experience in autocracy. Zombie regimes like this can persist with modest popular support eg North Korea, Belarus. Look at Syria which was run by a corrupt family from a tiny religious minority and ended up as a narco-state. By contrast the mullahs have millions of Farsi-speaking Shia at the undereducated end of the spectrum who still stay loyal. Khomeini studied the Shah for decades and learned the lessons there, both how to topple a king and how to stay in power. Unless Iran breaks up, I fear change will have to come from within as it did in the Soviet Union. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
herbie Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 Save them Pax! Go in and restore the Shah and SAVAK, give them US freedumbs again. Too bad you can no longer do it subvertly with Big Donnie Blabbermouth in the driver's seat Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 Iran’s government will be difficult to decapitate. Like Hamas, they have long prepared for such an eventuality. Unless the IRGC is profoundly degraded, I don’t see the regime falling from external pressure. There is also another potential problem here when you get involved in a family row. Any foreigner attacking a country naturally elicits a hostile response even in many of those who hate the regime. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.