Nationalist Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 59 minutes ago, West said: If rumors are true, taking out this dictator while he was popping a nut is the ultimate boss move Ya gits wut ya begs fer... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted January 3 Author Report Posted January 3 23 minutes ago, Radiorum said: I couldn't find anything substantiating this. What I did find was Venezuelan tankers under Russian protection Can you please provide your source? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-we-know-oil-tanker-the-skipper-seized-us-near-venezuela/ The Skipper was sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department in 2022 for its alleged role in an oil smuggling network that helped fund the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and Hezbollah, a Lebanese militant group backed by Iran. The ship — known as Adisa in 2022 — is among the vessels controlled by sanctioned Russian oil magnate Viktor Artemov, the Treasury said in a statement. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Gaétan Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 The media and most world leaders applaud the American intervention in Venezuela to go and steal the oil, but there is a moral problem. Trump takes advantage of it while the American justice system is focused on destroying films of him debauching children. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 26 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: The Skipper was sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department in 2022 for its alleged role in an oil smuggling network that helped fund the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and Hezbollah, a Lebanese militant group backed by Iran. The ship — known as Adisa in 2022 — is among the vessels controlled by sanctioned Russian oil magnate Viktor Artemov, the Treasury said in a statement. The tanker is controlled by Nigeria-based management company Thomarose Global Ventures LTD and owned by a firm linked to Artemov, The ship — known as Adisa in 2022 — is among the vessels controlled by sanctioned Russian oil magnate Viktor Artemov, the Treasury said in a statement. At the time, the Treasury said Artemov transported Iranian oil using an expansive network of ships that were often registered in obscure ways with the intention of skirting U.S. restrictions on Iranian petroleum exports. *** It didn't cost Putin a thing. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 Zelenksyy's comment on the news about Maduro - "Well, what can I say? ... If it's possible to deal with dictators like that, then the United States of America knows what to do next." https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTD8L_0AWJ-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== Quote
Nationalist Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Zelenksyy's comment on the news about Maduro - "Well, what can I say? ... If it's possible to deal with dictators like that, then the United States of America knows what to do next." https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTD8L_0AWJ-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== Ya. Sit back and watch Russia pull the same on The Green T-Shirt and his wife. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted January 4 Author Report Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, Radiorum said: The tanker is controlled by Nigeria-based management company Thomarose Global Ventures LTD and owned by a firm linked to Artemov, The ship — known as Adisa in 2022 — is among the vessels controlled by sanctioned Russian oil magnate Viktor Artemov, the Treasury said in a statement. At the time, the Treasury said Artemov transported Iranian oil using an expansive network of ships that were often registered in obscure ways with the intention of skirting U.S. restrictions on Iranian petroleum exports. *** It didn't cost Putin a thing. Lol...ok....you need everything spelled out for you. Ships, like this one, were moving sanctioned oil (Russian and Iranian) to states like Venezuela. The oil was then shipped out to western countries. It was, effectively, oil laundering. Every vessel that gets taken out of service is oil they cant sell. And this guy is buddy buddy with Putin. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Trump did not only pursue legal channels. Trump refused to return the boxes of documents. Yes he did. Trumps team was in negotiations on how to hand over documents and had already been doing just that. 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Lol...ok....you need everything spelled out for you. Ships, like this one, were moving sanctioned oil (Russian and Iranian) to states like Venezuela. The oil was then shipped out to western countries. It was, effectively, oil laundering. Every vessel that gets taken out of service is oil they cant sell. And this guy is buddy buddy with Putin. So clearly Putin sacrificed it for the higher purpose Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 4 Author Report Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, Radiorum said: So clearly Putin sacrificed it for the higher purpose Lmao...right. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Radiorum Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 Here are the questions to ask: Do you believe the U.S. should be able to kidnap the leaders of other sovereign countries? If this is considered acceptable, what stops other powerful nations from doing the same? What precedent does this set for international law, global stability, and civilian safety? Quote
User Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Do you believe the U.S. should be able to kidnap the leaders of other sovereign countries? Loaded question. No one was "kidnapped" 3 minutes ago, Radiorum said: If this is considered acceptable, what stops other powerful nations from doing the same? Power. Other nations put out and agreed to an arrest warrant to get the leader of Israel. Folks on the left, hell likely you, fully support arresting him, no? 4 minutes ago, Radiorum said: What precedent does this set for international law, global stability, and civilian safety? Easy, it demonstrates that if you screw with us, you better be prepared to face the consequences. That promotes peace through power. It shows other tinpot 3rd world dictators they better watch their steps. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Here are the questions to ask: Do you believe the U.S. should be able to kidnap the leaders of other sovereign countries? If this is considered acceptable, what stops other powerful nations from doing the same? What precedent does this set for international law, global stability, and civilian safety? It bodes badly. My advise to you...cancel your internet connection, smash your cell to bits and melt it down, dig a deep hole, put a lead safe in it, and hide. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 This could all be settled if Maduro commits suicide in his cell while the surveillance cameras are malfunctioning. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 4 hours ago, robosmith said: You Canucks are getting way too big for your TINY BRITCHES. Nothing you say matters HERE. LOL oh noes!!!! Robosmith is regretting his substandard american education and can't keep up!!!! Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 1 hour ago, John Stone said: This could all be settled if Maduro commits suicide in his cell while the surveillance cameras are malfunctioning. Again? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Gaétan Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 Those who demonstrate in favor of Maduro’s capture are the sons of the brothels of the former dictator frequented by the Americans. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: Here are the questions to ask: Do you believe the U.S. should be able to kidnap the leaders of other sovereign countries? If this is considered acceptable, what stops other powerful nations from doing the same? What precedent does this set for international law, global stability, and civilian safety? There are a couple problems with your questions First in this particular case he wasn't the leader of a foreign sovereign country. Vast number of countries including America under Biden and Canada have never recognized him as legitimate. Continuing with that he was arrested not really kidnapped. And more importantly it's not a question of should they be able to, they very clearly are able to. And this is hardly the first time. Obama had bin Laden killed without trial and without the permission of the country he was living in. And he was certainly a political leader. And there's lots of other cases. So the question feels a little late. It probably should be more like 'can we stop it and should we'? Because it's been allowed for many decades. With your guards to your second question, nothing. Many other countries have and continue to do so. India killed a prominent political figure in British Columbia. Russia is certainly killed it's fair share around the world. Many of the other countries have as well. As to the president, what it says is that you better have a fairly strong country if you want to prevent this. Militarily economically etc if you are weak someone may very well do this to you. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Gaétan Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 It is an act of cowardice to attack those weaker than oneself. Americans are cowards. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 Just now, Gaétan said: It is an act of cowardice to attack those weaker than oneself. Americans are cowards. There's not much attacking going on there. It went in and arrested a guy with pretty minimal bloodshed as I understand it. It's not cowardly to arrest criminals. The guy was a bad guy he got arrested. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Gaétan Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: There's not much attacking going on there. It went in and arrested a guy with pretty minimal bloodshed as I understand it. It's not cowardly to arrest criminals. The guy was a bad guy he got arrested. Trump considers himself virtuous, but he is nothing more than a thief and a criminal, and his family are nothing but thieves. His goal is to set up brothels in Venezuela to get massages from children. Quote
herbie Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 He just sent armed forces into a sovereign country and kidnapped their leader without the approval of any legal body US or International. He's been murdering people and seizing ships in international waters for weeks. 100% on his sole say. Also says the USA will rule Venezuela and decide for its people when and who they can vote for when he lets them. And many of you are still defending this fascist scumbag Trump as though he's some kind of hero. There is no moral low he can stoop to that you will not support. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 2 hours ago, Gaétan said: Trump considers himself virtuous, but he is nothing more than a thief and a criminal, Arguably true, but that doesn't mean he was wrong to yank the guy. Quote and his family are nothing but thieves. So basically the same as biden then Yeah well, that's american politics for you Quote His goal is to set up brothels in Venezuela to get massages from children. ????? So what you're saying is that ONE sentence is about how long your sanity can last for before you go nuttier than a fruitcake again. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 1 hour ago, herbie said: He just sent armed forces into a sovereign country and kidnapped their leader without the approval of any legal body US or International. If it was obama, he would have just killed him Or did you forget about that. And this guy wasn't the president. Very few countries ever recognized that election as legit. Quote He's been murdering people and seizing ships in international waters for weeks. You mean the drug traffickers? True.... not sure anyone who's not a left wing nutbar is really unhappy about that. Quote 100% on his sole say. Also says the USA will rule Venezuela and decide for its people when and who they can vote for when he lets them. That is traditional if a country takes over another country. That's how it worked with japan and germany and iraq and every other country. Quote And many of you are still defending this fascist scumbag Trump as though he's some kind of hero. There is no moral low he can stoop to that you will not support. Sorry, you guys lowered the bar SO low with trudeau and biden that it's really hard to care about this. Blowing up a few drug boats and arresting a drug kingpin who terrorizes the citizens is a welcome change from the afghanistan withdrawal and declaring the emergency act on inncoent protesters and illegally seizing people's bank accounts at home. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 14 hours ago, eyeball said: Annexation is in vogue now. If it's good enough for Putin and Trump it shouldn't be long until Jinping is in on it. There'll probably be a cascade of annexations now. Who or what is there to prevent it? Three old tyrants nursing their old grudges and grievances? They'll be too busy encouraging it. Interesting. China will likely not annex Taiwan - rare for a Nation to annex its own territory. Historically, the island belongs to China. ....... Taiwan's destiny hinges almost completely on the United States - specifically the USN. The PRC strategy is likely leaning more to blockade........ they seem to be prepping for that action now. Most agree that Taiwan is particularly vulnerable to this type of attack(?) Taiwan’s natural gas supplies would likely run out after ten days of a blockade. Coal and oil supplies would run out in a matter of weeks. If Taiwan’s electricity was reduced to 20% of its pre-blockade levels, all manufacturing would cease. Taiwan's largest ports are on its west coast, facing mainland China. Blockade (declaration of war notwithstanding) is illegal wrt to International Law? International law? WTF is that? Who would enforce any decision? The U.N.? Bwahahahahahaha Quote
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