Conservative Amendment Defeated

[ExFlyer]

PP Le Pew Loses Again

Complainatives cannot even back their own amendment LOL

 

[Legato]

Yes as expected. Now the Carney Liberals will have to eat their own crow.

[Shady]

Liberals vote against their MOU!  Too funny!

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Yes as expected. Now the Carney Liberals will have to eat their own crow.

You expected the complainatives to vote against their own amendment?? LOL LOL LOL

The complainatives LOSE ...AGAIN!!!!

54 minutes ago, Shady said:

Liberals vote against their MOU!  Too funny!

It was the complainative amendment that failed..not the MOU... the MOPU stands HA HA HA

I guess I gave you more credit for being intelligent than you actually are LOL LOL LOL

 

The conservatives could be winners and could change the minds of the voters if they get a decent leader.

Edited December 9, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Shady]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

You expected the complainatives to vote against their own amendment?? LOL LOL LOL

The complainatives LOSE ...AGAIN!!!!

It was the complainative amendment that failed..not the MOU... the MOPU stands HA HA HA

I guess I gave you more credit for being intelligent than you actually are LOL LOL LOL

 

The conservatives could be winners and could change the minds of the voters if they get a decent leader.

The amendment is based on the MOU.  The text of the amendment is literally taken right out of the MOU!  But the LIEberals voted against it because they don’t really want to build pipelines.  They just want to pretend to. 😂

[Intellectual]

6 minutes ago, Shady said:

The amendment is based on the MOU.  The text of the amendment is literally taken right out of the MOU!  But the LIEberals voted against it because they don’t really want to build pipelines.  They just want to pretend to. 😂

Yet, again, there are differing interpretations based on what is actually occurring, underscored by ideological disparities. The Liberals barely passed their last confidence vote and have been rather uneasy in terms of their stability.

I believe Immigration Minister Lena Metlege Diab was faced with accusations about her "terrible" qualities as Minister, demonstrating extensive polarization levels.

[Barquentine]

Conservative Amendment Defeated

Yet another proof that PeePee can't do anything but play stoopid political games, waste Parliament's time and Candians' money and another reason why Canadians don't like him and he'll never be PM. He will always sit at the kid's table in Canadion politics.

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, Shady said:

The amendment is based on the MOU.  The text of the amendment is literally taken right out of the MOU!  But the LIEberals voted against it because they don’t really want to build pipelines.  They just want to pretend to. 😂

The amendments were changes PP Le Pew wanted.  Most had nothing to do with the pipelines LOL

The Conservatives pulled another stunt in Parliament today and people deserve to know what actually happened. They brought forward a motion about the federal Alberta pipeline MOU but stripped out major pieces of the real agreement. They left out the Indigenous co ownership commitments. They removed environmental accountability. They ignored terms Alberta itself had agreed to. Then they pretended their watered down version was the real deal.

This was never about advancing the project. The motion was non binding. Even if it passed it would not have changed a single thing. It was political theatre meant to create outrage and confusion. And when it failed they immediately tried to spin it as the government blocking the project. That is simply false. If they had presented the full MOU exactly as written the motion would have passed. They chose not to because honesty does not serve their narrative.

And let’s be clear about something else. The actual MOU involved real negotiation between Alberta the federal government and Indigenous partners. Some First Nations supported it. Others did not. That is normal when dealing with major infrastructure projects and it is why consultation matters. But the Conservatives decided to interfere and rewrite the agreement for a headline. That choice does more than waste time. It disrespects the communities who engaged in good faith. It sends the message that their concerns and their support can be edited out when politically convenient. This stunt just further insults them.

We need to stop rewarding this kind of performative politics. It erodes trust. It undermines real work. It spreads misinformation. And it turns important negotiations into props for partisan outrage. Do not fall for it. Look at the full MOU. Look at who actually negotiated it. And look at who chose to distort it.

Canada deserves better than theatrics from politicians who would rather ragebait than inform. Be careful with what you share. Check the facts before repeating claims. Moments like this are exactly when disinformation spreads fast and deliberately.

Edited December 10, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Politics1990]

16 hours ago, Shady said:

Liberals vote against their MOU!  Too funny!

it wasn't the MOU lol the cons made bunch of changes and tried to be shady about it and lie to public that libs failed there own thing lol

[Shady]

53 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The amendments were changes PP Le Pew wanted.  Most had nothing to do with the pipelines LOL

The Conservatives pulled another stunt in Parliament today and people deserve to know what actually happened. They brought forward a motion about the federal Alberta pipeline MOU but stripped out major pieces of the real agreement. They left out the Indigenous co ownership commitments. They removed environmental accountability. They ignored terms Alberta itself had agreed to. Then they pretended their watered down version was the real deal.

This was never about advancing the project. The motion was non binding. Even if it passed it would not have changed a single thing. It was political theatre meant to create outrage and confusion. And when it failed they immediately tried to spin it as the government blocking the project. That is simply false. If they had presented the full MOU exactly as written the motion would have passed. They chose not to because honesty does not serve their narrative.

And let’s be clear about something else. The actual MOU involved real negotiation between Alberta the federal government and Indigenous partners. Some First Nations supported it. Others did not. That is normal when dealing with major infrastructure projects and it is why consultation matters. But the Conservatives decided to interfere and rewrite the agreement for a headline. That choice does more than waste time. It disrespects the communities who engaged in good faith. It sends the message that their concerns and their support can be edited out when politically convenient. This stunt just further insults them.

We need to stop rewarding this kind of performative politics. It erodes trust. It undermines real work. It spreads misinformation. And it turns important negotiations into props for partisan outrage. Do not fall for it. Look at the full MOU. Look at who actually negotiated it. And look at who chose to distort it.

Canada deserves better than theatrics from politicians who would rather ragebait than inform. Be careful with what you share. Check the facts before repeating claims. Moments like this are exactly when disinformation spreads fast and deliberately.

They weren’t changes, it was literally taken from the MOU, word for word.  And the LIEberals voted against it! 😂

11 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

it wasn't the MOU lol the cons made bunch of changes and tried to be shady about it and lie to public that libs failed there own thing lol

No, there were no changes.  The entire motion was lifted word for word from the MOU! 😂

[Shady]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Conservative Amendment Defeated

Yet another proof that PeePee can't do anything but play stoopid political games, waste Parliament's time and Candians' money and another reason why Canadians don't like him and he'll never be PM. He will always sit at the kid's table in Canadion politics.

The political game is being played by the LIEberals pretending that they support pipelines.  Mark my words, nothing will get built.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Carney has moved to the right, creating political space on the left for the NDP, Greens and BQ to fill if they can. Poilievre would be better off avoiding games in parliament that make him look unserious if noticed at all and letting the tensions in the Liberal party play out. Furthermore, he needs to rebuild his credibility as a mature politician worthy of running the country. Like resilience, restraint, and energy, patience is one of those vital political virtues that are less talked about but no less important. The PM has very little political experience and will make lots of mistakes. There’s no need to manufacture controversy.  

Edited December 10, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[ironstone]

Even if Carney is PM for another 10+ more years or so, does anyone really believe any new pipelines will actually be built?

Of all the countries in the world lucky enough to have proven oil reserves, Canada stands out as the one place where it is now virtually the most difficult to build the pipelines.

Same goes for many major projects. Indigenous approval for everything. Nothing gets done unless chiefs and band councils get paid off?

Other oil producing nation have to be laughing at us.

Edited December 10, 2025 by ironstone

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Conservative Amendment Defeated

Yet another proof that PeePee can't do anything but play stoopid political games, waste Parliament's time and Candians' money and another reason why Canadians don't like him and he'll never be PM. He will always sit at the kid's table in Canadion politics.

Bullcrap!

Poilievre forced the Liberals to vote again their own MOU.

Perfect strategy.

Why are you frightened of Poilievre?

 

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

They weren’t changes, it was literally taken from the MOU, word for word.  And the LIEberals voted against it! 😂

No, there were no changes.  The entire motion was lifted word for word from the MOU! 😂

Duhhh, what do you think amendments are...status quo?? No, they are changes...and other objections and omissions.

I gave you what the amendments were...here they are again....read em (if you can comprehend) and weep LOL

 

Key Elements of the Recent MOU Amendment Saga (Canada):

 

• The Original MOU: A deal between Alberta (Premier Smith) and the Federal Government (PM Carney) for a pipeline to BC, including conditions like Alberta's industrial carbon pricing, Indigenous co-ownership, and B.C. consultation.
• The Conservative Motion: A non-binding motion to "take note" of the MOU, explicitly mentioning the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act adjustment and Indigenous consultation, but omitting Alberta's climate commitments.
• The Liberal Response: They voted against it, calling it a political stunt that cherry-picked parts of the deal, even though they support the entire MOU.
• The Amendment Attempt: Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre then moved to amend their own motion to include Indigenous co-ownership and carbon capture, trying to force a Liberal vote for the whole MOU.

"

The amendments were changes PP Le Pew wanted.  Most had nothing to do with the pipelines LOL

The Conservatives pulled another stunt in Parliament today and people deserve to know what actually happened. They brought forward a motion about the federal Alberta pipeline MOU but stripped out major pieces of the real agreement. They left out the Indigenous co ownership commitments. They removed environmental accountability. They ignored terms Alberta itself had agreed to. Then they pretended their watered down version was the real deal.

This was never about advancing the project. The motion was non binding. Even if it passed it would not have changed a single thing. It was political theatre meant to create outrage and confusion. And when it failed they immediately tried to spin it as the government blocking the project. That is simply false. If they had presented the full MOU exactly as written the motion would have passed. They chose not to because honesty does not serve their narrative.

And let’s be clear about something else. The actual MOU involved real negotiation between Alberta the federal government and Indigenous partners. Some First Nations supported it. Others did not. That is normal when dealing with major infrastructure projects and it is why consultation matters. But the Conservatives decided to interfere and rewrite the agreement for a headline. That choice does more than waste time. It disrespects the communities who engaged in good faith. It sends the message that their concerns and their support can be edited out when politically convenient. This stunt just further insults them.

We need to stop rewarding this kind of performative politics. It erodes trust. It undermines real work. It spreads misinformation. And it turns important negotiations into props for partisan outrage. Do not fall for it. Look at the full MOU. Look at who actually negotiated it. And look at who chose to distort it.

Canada deserves better than theatrics from politicians who would rather ragebait than inform. Be careful with what you share. Check the facts before repeating claims. Moments like this are exactly when disinformation spreads fast and deliberately.

"

 

Edited December 10, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Intellectual]

They have ultimately failed to appease. Poilievre's aggressive stance does nothing to help his party, nor does Carney's incessant bantering and fluctuating replacement of ministers. It's contributing to the same polarization that I have in my country--the United States.

[Shady]

7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Duhhh, what do you think amendments are...status quo?? No, they are changes...and other objections and omissions.

I gave you what the amendments were...here they are again....read em and weep LOL

"

The amendments were changes PP Le Pew wanted.  Most had nothing to do with the pipelines LOL

The Conservatives pulled another stunt in Parliament today and people deserve to know what actually happened. They brought forward a motion about the federal Alberta pipeline MOU but stripped out major pieces of the real agreement. They left out the Indigenous co ownership commitments. They removed environmental accountability. They ignored terms Alberta itself had agreed to. Then they pretended their watered down version was the real deal.

This was never about advancing the project. The motion was non binding. Even if it passed it would not have changed a single thing. It was political theatre meant to create outrage and confusion. And when it failed they immediately tried to spin it as the government blocking the project. That is simply false. If they had presented the full MOU exactly as written the motion would have passed. They chose not to because honesty does not serve their narrative.

And let’s be clear about something else. The actual MOU involved real negotiation between Alberta the federal government and Indigenous partners. Some First Nations supported it. Others did not. That is normal when dealing with major infrastructure projects and it is why consultation matters. But the Conservatives decided to interfere and rewrite the agreement for a headline. That choice does more than waste time. It disrespects the communities who engaged in good faith. It sends the message that their concerns and their support can be edited out when politically convenient. This stunt just further insults them.

We need to stop rewarding this kind of performative politics. It erodes trust. It undermines real work. It spreads misinformation. And it turns important negotiations into props for partisan outrage. Do not fall for it. Look at the full MOU. Look at who actually negotiated it. And look at who chose to distort it.

Canada deserves better than theatrics from politicians who would rather ragebait than inform. Be careful with what you share. Check the facts before repeating claims. Moments like this are exactly when disinformation spreads fast and deliberately.

"

 

Nope, they added those provisions to the motion.  And the LIEberals still voted against it!  LOL.  They don't want a pipeline.  They just want to pretend.  Regardless, if the motion isn't binding anyways, why vote against it?  LOL

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, Shady said:

Nope, they added those provisions to the motion.  And the LIEberals still voted against it!  LOL.  They don't want a pipeline.  They just want to pretend.  Regardless, if the motion isn't binding anyways, why vote against it?  LOL

Wow...you certainly are dense LOL. Clearly you and shabby didn't read the motion or amendment, otherwise you wouldn't make such foolish statements

The conservative amendment even had to be amended by the conservatives cause they forgot about the indigenous LOL

If it was not binding...why did the conservatives make a motion and then propose  amendments and then amend their amendment??? Why did the conservative even make it a vote?

Duhhh, yep, another useless complainative blunder HA HA HA

Edited December 10, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Shady]

6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Wow...you certainly are dense LOL. Clearly you and shabby didn't read the motion or amendment, otherwise you wouldn't make such foolish statements

The conservative amendment even had to be amended by the conservatives cause they forgot about the indigenous LOL

If it was not binding...why did the conservatives make a motion and then propose  amendments and then amend their amendment??? Why did the conservative even make it a vote?

Duhhh, yep, another useless complainative blunder HA HA HA

The motion was necessary to put the lieberals on the record for supporting a pipeline.  They voted against it, showing that they have no interest in actually getting anything done.  Just more symbolism, as they continue to cost Canada billions of dollars a year in potential revenue, that could fund things like health care.  And you support them! LOL

[SpankyMcFarland]

In 1940, Clement Attlee joined Winston Churchill’s wartime government despite their profound political differences and served under him right through the war before winning by a landslide in the 1945 election. That’s the sort of patience every politician could learn from. 

Edited December 10, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

13 minutes ago, Shady said:

The motion was necessary to put the lieberals on the record for supporting a pipeline.  They voted against it, showing that they have no interest in actually getting anything done.  Just more symbolism, as they continue to cost Canada billions of dollars a year in potential revenue, that could fund things like health care.  And you support them! LOL

Voting against it shows they want to stay in government. 

[blackbird]

The motion stated:

The motion says MPs support the construction of at least one pipeline enabling the export of a million barrels a day of Alberta oil from a deepwater port in British Columbia.

It also says this will be achieved "through an appropriate adjustment" to the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act, while respecting the duty to consult Indigenous people.

The fact the Liberals voted against such a motion proves they don't really support building a pipeline to the BC north coast.  Carney's MOU appears to have been just a piece of paper to fool Alberta and the rest of Canada into believing they support a pipeline to the coast when they really don't.  Carney's ideology has been against the growth of the oil industry and against any more oil pipelines.   He remains a globalist war-on-climate change guy with connections to various globalist associations.   Why would anybody believe he has changed?  There will likely be no pipeline to the BC north coast as long as Liberals form government.

Edited December 10, 2025 by blackbird

[ExFlyer]

45 minutes ago, Shady said:

The motion was necessary to put the lieberals on the record for supporting a pipeline.  They voted against it, showing that they have no interest in actually getting anything done.  Just more symbolism, as they continue to cost Canada billions of dollars a year in potential revenue, that could fund things like health care.  And you support them! LOL

Aww shabby, the motion was all show business because the complainatives, especially PP Le Pew, have nothing to offer. 

The "symbolism" is all PP Le Pew and his constant complaining, whining, crying and cliche dropping banter. He has nothing so, he has to make all his MP's look stupid too. LOL

[ExFlyer]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The motion stated:

The motion says MPs support the construction of at least one pipeline enabling the export of a million barrels a day of Alberta oil from a deepwater port in British Columbia.

It also says this will be achieved "through an appropriate adjustment" to the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act, while respecting the duty to consult Indigenous people.

The fact the Liberals voted against such a motion proves they don't really support building a pipeline to the BC north coast.  Carney's MOU appears to have been just a piece of paper to fool Alberta and the rest of Canada into believing they support a pipeline to the coast when they really don't.  Carney's ideology has been against the growth of the oil industry and against any more oil pipelines.   He remains a globalist war-on-climate change guy with connections to various globalist associations.   Why would anybody believe he has changed?  There will likely be no pipeline to the BC north coast as long as Liberals form government.

OMG...another person that did not read what the motion and amendment and amendment to the amendment states (let alone even read the actual tri lateral MOU Here is is for your edification) LOL

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/backgrounders/2025/11/27/canada-alberta-memorandum-understanding

Carneys and Smiths MOU are a document for a way forward that both parties agreed to.... and Smith is a conservative and it was good enough for her ....maybe she should slap PP on his PP and tell him to shut the H up? LOL

[Shady]

15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Aww shabby, the motion was all show business because the complainatives, especially PP Le Pew, have nothing to offer. 

The "symbolism" is all PP Le Pew and his constant complaining, whining, crying and cliche dropping banter. He has nothing so, he has to make all his MP's look stupid too. LOL

No, the symbolism is from the lieberals.  We'll know when nothing gets done on the pipeline.  And rubes like you believe them, even after they've made everything in Canada worse over the last decade, you still support their terrible policies.  You'll be eating cat food at some points, still cheering on the lieberals for their greatness!  It reminds me how North Koreans view their leader. LOL

Btw, keep us all updated on the progress of the pipeline, let us know when the first shovel goes into the group ok?