This New U.S. Strategy Changes EVERYTHING for Ukraine and Europe.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Methinks you're correct on all counts. I'm no fan of Trump but this singular misanthropy is way over the top.

Methinks you ONLY listen to news sites that tell you what you want to hear.

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

Methinks you're correct on all counts. I'm no fan of Trump but this singular misanthropy is way over the top.

He has, where?

Everywhere except FOS LIES. Duh

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

You would have to listen to what Trump says about Putin.

 

Appearing to all appearances? It appears to be a misguided evaluation.

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Methinks you ONLY listen to news sites that tell you what you want to hear.

Everywhere except FOS LIES. Duh

Which are?

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Appearing to all appearances? It appears to be a misguided evaluation.

Yes, yours is misguided and unsupported by EVIDENCE.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Yes, yours is misguided and unsupported by EVIDENCE.

Which evidence?

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Which evidence?

The amount you posted which is NONE as USUAL.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

The amount you posted which is NONE as USUAL.

Dodge I see. (with a sport hood)

Spam is not good for any type of underpinning.

[User]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yes, yours is misguided and unsupported by EVIDENCE.

This whole thread is full of you posting BS. You are too big a coward to own up to that, though. 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, John Stone said:

I like the manner in which you've just normalized annexation? 

I like the manner in which you ignore the simple facts of the matter, such as 1) annexation of this kind has been normal all throughout human history, 2) the people of Donbas actually wanted to join Russia, 3) the Ukrainian gov't was bombing their own people in Donbas, 4) Ukraine started the war with Russia by trying to join NATO.

It's atrocious what's happening to the people of Russia and Ukraine right now, and this is all on America's puppet regime in Ukraine plus NATO aggression. 

[User]

51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I like the manner in which you ignore the simple facts of the matter, such as 1) annexation of this kind has been normal all throughout human history, 2) the people of Donbas actually wanted to join Russia, 3) the Ukrainian gov't was bombing their own people in Donbas, 4) Ukraine started the war with Russia by trying to join NATO.

It's atrocious what's happening to the people of Russia and Ukraine right now, and this is all on America's puppet regime in Ukraine plus NATO aggression. 

1. The fact that other nations have acted with violence against other to take what is not theirs, doesn't make it "normal" as if it is OK and should just be shrugged off and acceptable behavior.  

2. First, even "if" they did, it is entirely irrelevent, as that doesn't somehow give them any right to do so or make Russia invading OK

3. Ukraine was fighting against the seperatists who were backed by Russia as well as outright Russian military there backing them. 

4. No, that is not how a war is started at all. This is you coming up with a lame excuse to justify Russia starting a war against Ukraine. 

NATO is a defensive alliance. 

You just repeat your same stupid crap over and over again. 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Legato said:

Dodge I see. (with a sport hood)

Spam is not good for any type of underpinning.

You don't know what spam is.

[robosmith]

 

 

[User]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You don't know what spam is.

Yes, we get examples of it from you daily. 

[John Stone]

11 hours ago, User said:

1. The fact that other nations have acted with violence against other to take what is not theirs, doesn't make it "normal" as if it is OK and should just be shrugged off and acceptable behavior.  

2. First, even "if" they did, it is entirely irrelevent, as that doesn't somehow give them any right to do so or make Russia invading OK

3. Ukraine was fighting against the seperatists who were backed by Russia as well as outright Russian military there backing them. 

4. No, that is not how a war is started at all. This is you coming up with a lame excuse to justify Russia starting a war against Ukraine. 

NATO is a defensive alliance. 

You just repeat your same stupid crap over and over again. 

............ forgive me for thinking you are a Hutterite. 

 

[Nationalist]

23 hours ago, User said:

You keep making the same dishonest point over and over again, no matter how many times you have been called out. 

On day one, Russia went straight after a full invasion of Ukraine to conquer it whole. The question is, what evidence do you have to support saying that Russia was really only interested in East Ukraine... after they already took Crimea. 

 

Yes, another baseless assertion of yours. 

IMO...I dont buy the idea that Russia had to retreat from the road to Kiev. I just dont think Putin or the Russians want to "rule" all of Ukraine, nor do I think they'd really want to level Kiev. I think they really dislike The Green T-Shirt and want him out of power.

I also think that the way this war has been executed, clearly exhibits that. For instance, why did Yevgeny Prigozhin get pissed at Putin? Because Putin wouldn't let him run over the Ukrainian forces and take Kiev. He paid a rather high price for that.

No...it makes no sense to take over all of Ukraine. Its a money-pit. Its historically significant in Russian history. And now...it sounds like the pressure Trump is using to get them to stop...is working...albeit slowly.

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, User said:

Yes, we get examples of it from you daily. 

Those are YOUR POSTS, lDIOT.

[robosmith]

17 hours ago, User said:

This whole thread is full of you posting BS. You are too big a coward to own up to that, though. 

Thanks for admitting that Trump's new "Security Strategy" is BS, lDIOT. 

[User]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Those are YOUR POSTS, lDIOT.

I’m not the one creating threads every day with nothing more than a link to a Facebook video.

That is you

Just now, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting that Trump's new "Security Strategy" is BS, lDIOT. 

Pointing out that you are posting BS is just that. 

[User]

11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

IMO...I dont buy the idea that Russia had to retreat from the road to Kiev.

I don’t care what you buy.

The facts show Putin/Russia launched a full scale invasion attempt from multiple fronts meant to overwhelm and conquer Ukraine very quickly.

They got bogged down trying to encircle Kiev and were getting cut off from their logistics. 

If they didn’t pull back, it would have been catastrophic to their operations.

You can sit here playing these dishonest games about not knowing their motives and presuming to think they were something else, and I will focus on the facts. 
 

14 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

For instance, why did Yevgeny Prigozhin get pissed at Putin?

You tell me. This is your new dumb claim. Show us what exactly this dude said you are talking about. 
 

 

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, User said:

1. The fact that other nations have acted with violence against other to take what is not theirs, doesn't make it "normal" as if it is OK and should just be shrugged off and acceptable behavior.  

2. First, even "if" they did, it is entirely irrelevent, as that doesn't somehow give them any right to do so or make Russia invading OK

3. Ukraine was fighting against the seperatists who were backed by Russia as well as outright Russian military there backing them. 

4. No, that is not how a war is started at all. This is you coming up with a lame excuse to justify Russia starting a war against Ukraine. 

NATO is a defensive alliance. 

You just repeat your same stupid crap over and over again. 

Don't be so convinced of your own "our side is always right" argument:

1. You're viewing this through an extremely polarized lens, not from a "both sides are human" POV
2. Our gov't can't even be trusted to treat Canadians fairly and properly, nor can America's be trusted with their own people. What makes you think we have pure white hats when dealing with Russia/Ukraine? We're talking about the scum of the earth running the US for 12 years between 2008 and 2024. But you trust them? 
3. NATO is an extremely aggressive "defensive alliance" in Eastern Europe.
4. You just keep repeating CBC/CNN talking points over and over again... Seriously, where does your position differ from theirs? When was the last time they told the truth about anything? 

[Deluge]

On 12/6/2025 at 9:43 PM, robosmith said:

Trump is erasing Europe and isolating Ukraine in service to Russia.

NO ONE voted for that.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4287777084813875

 

 

How is Trump "erasing" Europe, you piece of shit? Foreigners have been FLOODING the West for God knows how long.  That sounds a helluva lot more like a Joe Biden thing to do. 

Isolating Ukraine is a good thing - it has a terrible leader and it's in desperate need for strong leadership. 

Edited December 8, 2025 by Deluge

[User]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't be so convinced of your own "our side is always right" argument:

1. You're viewing this through an extremely polarized lens, not from a "both sides are human" POV
2. Our gov't can't even be trusted to treat Canadians fairly and properly, nor can America's be trusted with their own people. What makes you think we have pure white hats when dealing with Russia/Ukraine? We're talking about the scum of the earth running the US for 12 years between 2008 and 2024. But you trust them? 
3. NATO is an extremely aggressive "defensive alliance" in Eastern Europe.
4. You just keep repeating CBC/CNN talking points over and over again... Seriously, where does your position differ from theirs? When was the last time they told the truth about anything? 

LOL, you are the one convinced Russia… RUSSIA! Is right.

FFS where is a facepalm big enough…

1. This makes no sense in response to me, as you are the one who was normalizing countries aggression towards others while I was not. 
 

2. This is a distraction and bad argument. You are making a broad hasty generalization about Canada/America… which has nothing to do with the point you made or my response to it. My comments were not based on trusting anyone. 
 

3. Aggressive… how? I can be aggressive at ordering my coffee at Starbucks, so what? 
 

4. I didn’t quote either of those sources. 

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, you are the one convinced Russia… RUSSIA! Is right.

1. I know what I would do if I was Russia and NATO was muscling their way into Ukraine the way they did over the past ten years. 
2. I know what "Not one inch past Germany" means.
3. I served in NATO to defend my country, not to muscle into Eastern Europe like this, and get into Russia's grille. 

You can believe whatever you wanna believe, User, that's your choice, but it doesn't make any of it true. And just bear in mind that you're unable to budge from CBC's/CNN's narrative on this issue, and their integrity is squarely in the center of Bernie Madoff territory. 

If you wouldn't advise people to invest in Bernie Madoff's hedge fund, why would you peddle a CBC/CNN narrative? 

[WestCanMan]

32 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, you are the one convinced Russia… RUSSIA! Is right.

Name a European country not called "Hitler-era Germany" that was worse than Stalin's Russia... I'll wait.

That's not easy to do, right?

Still, we found ourselves squarely on Stalin's side in WWII. So, sometimes the really really bad guy is lucky enough to end up on the right side of history, albeit briefly. 

And this is another one of those times. As bad as Russia is, it was the US that was toppling regimes and organizing protests and fixing elections in Ukraine this time. They were even doing research on biological warfare agents in Ukraine (not "creating new ones", but allegedly researching treatments for old ones by their own admission, which involved "keeping a stockpile of biological weapons", which is still in contravention of the Biological Weapons Convention).

If you keep honest stock of all that has gone on in that region in the recent and distant past, NATO, and especially the US, are not at all a "defensive alliance", nor the white hats that you're making them out to be. 

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1. This makes no sense in response to me, as you are the one who was normalizing countries' aggression towards others while I was not. 

Do an honest appraisal of this situation, and kindly tell me where you spot "US aggression".

[robosmith]

Breaking: The U.S. Just Gave Europe a 2027 Ultimatum to take over their own defense

Never mind the US nuclear umbrella which long served to discourage nuclear proliferation. 🤮

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4220199188231444 VIDEO

 

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Breaking: The U.S. Just Gave Europe a 2027 Ultimatum to take over their own defense

Never mind the US nuclear umbrella which long served to discourage nuclear proliferation. 🤮

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4220199188231444 VIDEO

 

Breaking, the lazy spambot linked to another Facebook video…