Trump says he's hiking 'tariff on Canada' by 10% 'over and above' what it pays now

[CdnFox]

Trump says he's hiking 'tariff on Canada' by 10% 'over and above' what it pays now

No word on any specifics, whether it'll apply to all Canadian Goods or just those currently being tariffed. Apparently he didn't like the ad plank over the super bowl

Honestly I think he's creating a bit of a Streisand effect for himself we're now everybody's going to look at the ads. But he's pissed and god knows how this will end

[paxamericana]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

how this will end

We both know how this will end. With Canada on it's knees begging for...

[herbie]

F*cking crybaby.
His idea of 'negotiating' is give me what I want or I'll kick your nuts even harder. Mark of a true chickenshit.

Here's a tale written for MAGAt consumption:

https://www.the-sun.com/money/15282676/walmart-shut-down-prince-rupert-canada-crime/

Pretend it was about crime rather than the leased building leaking, the floor collapsing and the market too small to build their own. Make fools believe the streets aren't safe in Canada.....

 

[BeaverFever]

“Thank God we didn’t elect a woman president who would make reckless decisions based on their emotions!”

 

Honestly as much as I would like to believe Trump’s latest antics are actually just another of his unhinged reactions, on Tuesday Trump didn’t seem to mind the commercial at all when he told the press “I saw an ad last night from Canada. If I was Canada, I'd take that same ad also."

More likely is 

a) Trump never intended to reach an agreement with Carney this weekend at the ASEAN conference as he had originally suggested and was always going to find some excuse to move the goalposts; and

b) Trump’s team is aware that Carney faces a confidence vote on the budget  in 10 days and either wants to turn up the pressure on him or even try to topple him.  Trump’s administration has resumed saying in the press that “the Canadians” are being “very difficult” to negotiate with. 

Edited October 26, 2025 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

We both know how this will end. With Canada on it's knees begging for...

You're not having those weird Homosexual fantasies again are you? I think it's time for you to be honest with yourself about a few things so that you can go on to live your best life

[BeaverFever]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You're not having those weird Homosexual fantasies again are you? I think it's time for you to be honest with yourself about a few things so that you can go on to live your best life

A lot MAGAs and fascists have these weird homoerotic fascinations with their leader 

 

 

[herbie]

[paxamericana]

Look if you all insist on fighting back, realize what the American want in the first place. A minining and minerall processing hub. We're disentangling Russia and China (one is a mineral extractor and the other a mineral processor). There you go Canucks, that's a free tip from Muricah. I suggest you negotiate along those line since you'll need American Capital investment to build out said industry. This reindustrialization can extend to Canada, you just have to maximize the potential and leverage said potential. @CdnFox

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

A lot MAGAs and fascists have these weird homoerotic fascinations with their leader 

 

 

LOL literally none do but almost every single lefty here comes up with them at one point or another when they're losing a debate  

And now you're trying to normalize it for some reason   What is wrong with you guys?  I mean if it's your thing then that's cool.  We're not here to judge.  Well.....  nationalist is here to judge but the rest of us aren't 🤣🤣😆😆😎

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Look if you all insist on fighting back, realize what the American want in the first place. A minining and minerall processing hub. We're disentangling Russia and China (one is a mineral extractor and the other a mineral processor). There you go Canucks, that's a free tip from Muricah. I suggest you negotiate along those line since you'll need American Capital investment to build out said industry. This reindustrialization can extend to Canada, you just have to maximize the potential and leverage said potential. @CdnFox

Well i think that might happen but i do believe there's a few points that are technically far less important overall but are more important to the two leaders, 

Such as supply management. That's been a very sore spot for Trump since his first term and the orignal CUSMA that he signed.  (yes, that deal he calls the worst ever... that was his  )

However, supply management is absolutely a top issue for the people of quebec.  And Carney desperately needs those votes to survive. if he bows to that he'll lose his job tomorrow. 

So i think that it's all hung up on that and a few things like that. I don't think it's as simple as you might think it is.

[paxamericana]

On 10/25/2025 at 8:43 PM, CdnFox said:

supply management is absolutely a top issue

This regionalism does not work in the US. There are federal anti monopoly laws against this. Farmers would sometimes sell at a loss or destroy their crop. What often happens though, is someone find a new and novel way to produce new product out of the excess supply. 

[paxamericana]

On 10/25/2025 at 4:26 PM, herbie said:

Pretend it was about crime rather than the leased building leaking, the floor collapsing and the market too small to build their own. Make fools believe the streets aren't safe in Canada.....

This is the future for most places in the world, too large of an infrastructure to maintain and not enough butts to pay for it. This is the direct result of not having enough children.

[WestCanMan]

On 10/25/2025 at 4:26 PM, herbie said:

F*cking crybaby.
His idea of 'negotiating' is give me what I want or I'll kick your nuts even harder. Mark of a true chickenshit.

Here's a tale written for MAGAt consumption:

https://www.the-sun.com/money/15282676/walmart-shut-down-prince-rupert-canada-crime/

Pretend it was about crime rather than the leased building leaking, the floor collapsing and the market too small to build their own. Make fools believe the streets aren't safe in Canada.....

 

WTF are you prattling on about now, dummy?

Your problem is that you're so left4rded that you don't understand the effect that crime has on businesses.

Crime up = business down. Simple formula. 

Do you think anyone wants to open businesses in Haiti? What would happen to your employees when they try to walk around wearing nice clothes, wear nice jewelry, or drive nice cars? How many security guards do you need, 24/7, and how much do you have to pay them? Do you have to pay off crime bosses to keep them away? How much? How often do you have to bribe local and federal politicians, and how much does that cost every time?

Crime is really bad for business, herbie. Your small-man POV is just failing you again.

Eventually Walmart in PR becomes liable for their employees who are getting assaulted on the job or in the parking lot. They lose to much money due to pilferage by employees and theft. So they close. It's not new for them.

I remember back in the '80s Walmart even pulled out of areas of Detroit because of the constant damage and destruction done to their businesses on hell week. Eventually insurance costs become prohibitive. Companies won't pay for your store to be rebuilt every second year. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

This regionalism does not work in the US. There are federal anti monopoly laws against this. Farmers would sometimes sell at a loss or destroy their crop. What often happens though, is someone find a new and novel way to produce new product out of the excess supply. 

Which would be fine. Products containing poultry and dairy aren't restricted, americans can sell as much custard and chocolate milk as they like.

But American subsidize their farmers, and the tariffs are in place to prevent Americans dumping excess production into Canada.

It's always p*ssed trump off and he obviously wants it gone

[herbie]

4 hours ago, paxamericana said:

This is the future for most places in the world, too large of an infrastructure to maintain

Says the man in reference to a town of 12,000

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Which would be fine. Products containing poultry and dairy aren't restricted, americans can sell as much custard and chocolate milk as they like.

But American subsidize their farmers, and the tariffs are in place to prevent Americans dumping excess production into Canada.

It's always p*ssed trump off and he obviously wants it gone

Subsidized does not mean cheaper. In all cases, the ratio of supply to demand dictates the price. Subsidized just means the farmers can afford to stay in business. 

We subsidize our farmers to keep family farms alive. Without it, the profit margin is too low and they'd all sell to corporations. Yeah, it's farmer welfare. 

[herbie]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

WTF are you prattling on about now, dummy?

I ask you the same question. One paragraph post and you're unable to understand the subject. Just another opportunity to post a wrong wing word salad of gibberish

 

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

I ask you the same question. One paragraph post and you're unable to understand the subject. Just another opportunity to post a wrong wing word salad of gibberish

 

Where do you see a 1-paragraph post, Einstein? 

Just because you don't understand what I wrote doesn't mean it's OT, halfwit.

Do you even know what your link was about? 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Subsidized does not mean cheaper.

it pretty much does. IF the subsidy stops, it would cost more to produce or they would have to produce less. that's WHY the subsidize. 

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In all cases, the ratio of supply to demand dictates the price. Subsidized just means the farmers can afford to stay in business. 

It means they can afford to stay in business at a lower price.

without the subsidies it would cost more but they'd be in business  But people would pay more for their eggs. 

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We subsidize our farmers to keep family farms alive. Without it, the profit margin is too low and they'd all sell to corporations. Yeah, it's farmer welfare. 

Which is fine, there's a strong argument to be made that it's worth it for a gov't to do that to guarantee food availability and secure the food supply chain. I'm not saying it's bad, 

And in fact that same thinking is what lead to supply management in canada - protect our farmers and guarantee they stay in business.

 BUT  it is unreasonable to allow your subsidized products to compete with our non subsidized products.  And it's DEFINITELY not ok to allow the us to dump massive amounts of overproduction that happened as a result of those subsidies on our markets. 

And that's how things stand.  It's pretty reasonable, we don't want anything that you don't want for yourselves.  Supply chain and food security and independence.  

 

[gatomontes99]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

BUT  it is unreasonable to allow your subsidized products to compete with our non subsidized products.  And it's DEFINITELY not ok to allow the us to dump massive amounts of overproduction that happened as a result of those subsidies on our markets. 

 

Ok, but your subsidized products compete with our unsubsidized products. 

Our employers pay for our health care where as your employers take your Healthcare out of your paychecks. So manufacturing jobs in Canada are subsidized by the employees. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, gatomontes99 said:

Ok, but your subsidized products compete with our unsubsidized products. 

 

Like what. 

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Our employers pay for our health care where as your employers take your Healthcare out of your paychecks.

Umm... if they're taking it out of their paycheques that's STILL our employees paying for their health care. Most american workers have health insurance that comes off their paycheques too as i understand it. Not sure where you were going with that. 

Also our workers aren't just tariffed, they're BANNED from working in the states without special permits. 

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So manufacturing jobs in Canada are subsidized by the employees. 

If something is subsidized by the employees then it's not subsidized.

And in fact our workers don't subsidize their own jobs, they subsidize health care for poor people who don't have a job. So in  reality our workers are TAXED, not subsidized   they actually have a DISadvantage compared to us workers, not an advantage.  

Our oil is somewhat subsidzied, or was, but you get that at a 20 percent discount already.  So there you go. 

There have been things in the past that the us claimed was subsidized and either put tariffs on or limited the volume allowed to be sold etc. There's never been a time where there was NO american tariffs on some products. 

But it's just as reasonable to allow us to have anti dumping tariffs as well.  Remember a fair bit of us eggs and cheese and milk is allowed into canada with practically no tariffs and the us has NEVER EXCEEDED that amount ever. 

But they would have in some years if they could dump their excess onto our market and that's why we have that. 

Trump wants to expand us agriculture and use canada as an 'overflow' zone where if there's excessive production we have to buy their goods even if it trashes our own industries.  That's not really ok.