Canadians are losing their jobs while Carney jets around the world for his globalist meetings.

[herbie]

That's funny! Let me tall you a tale:
The wife griped how mush space my books were taking up in out apartment and sat with me as we sorted through and took a huge box of (mainly non-fiction) ones to the recycle shed. A week later her friend came over and told us how she'd found a bunch of books by the authors she knew I liked and returned the entire box. 

I have one keeper on the shelf from my Dad's university days published in the 1930s. It's a Chemistry book that tells you how to make everything from explosives to mescaline, from chemicals if you even ask a supplier for the Black Helicopters would be circling your house these days.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

You promise? I doubt that. LMAO!

 

I absolutely promise that the liberals are lying   There's no need to promise that you are, everyone's aware

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Sure kid...except that's the only thing we've got in common.

Oh look, there you go again. Big shock

You're not here sticking up for them everyday because you don't vote for them. I've seen you make thousands and thousands of pro-liberal posts, you don't make any such posts about other Parties.

We both know the liberals are scum who lie and cheat, I consider that grounds not to vote for them, you consider that no hindrance to voting for them. Sometimes I wonder if you consider it a prerequisite. That is the difference between us

[taxme]

On 10/25/2025 at 11:50 AM, eyeball said:

From the article...

Carney was elected because he promised he was the best man to deal with Trump’s tariffs.

He never actually used the word promise, he only asserted this. Asserting something does not mean promising it. Is insisting it does just another overstatement or a lie?

Is hearing it being repeated over and over again supposed to inculcate confidence verging on a promise from the people repeating it?

Was Carnage even elected? I believe that Carnage was appointed as the new dictator of Canada by his WEF globalist ilk. Carnage was dropped in for the need of having a new globalist lieberal dictator of Canada. The imbecile is no leader. The imbecile is a total loser. Just saying. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I've seen you make thousands and thousands of pro-liberal posts, you don't make any such posts about other Parties.

You'll certainly see me LMAO at how you blame people around here for voting for Liberals and acting as if right wing shit is completely odourless.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

We both know the liberals are scum who lie and cheat, I consider that grounds not to vote for them, you consider that no hindrance to voting for them.

LMAO!

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sometimes I wonder if you consider it a prerequisite. That is the difference between us

I simply don't see it as a reason to vote for your beloved Poilievre and the Conservatives and I think it's funny how that makes you go bonkers.

 

[taxme]

On 10/25/2025 at 11:17 AM, blackbird said:

This shows where Carney's priorities are.  Instead of staying in Canada and trying to stop the Trump tariffs, Carney is jetting around the world to various meetings with other globalist elite.  Meanwhile hundreds of Canadians are losing their jobs and thousands more jobs are threatened.  Where are Carney's priorities.  Doesn't seem like with Canadians.   Even now, with Trump just cutting off negotiations completely, Carney is still going to southeast Asia for more meetings.  Increasing trade takes years and the immediate problem is the Trump tariffs which need a resolution to save Canadians jobs and their livelihoods for their families.

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Prime Minister Mark Carney and U.S. President Donald Trump in Alberta for a G7 meeting, June 16, 2025.

The past two weeks have revealed the disastrous consequences of Mark Carney’s failure to negotiate some sort of relief from Donald Trump’s punishing tariffs on Canadian exports. And Canadian workers have paid the price.

Two weeks ago, automaker Stellantis announced plans to move Jeep Compass production from a Brampton, Ontario, plant to Illinois. 3,000 jobs will be lost. In Ingersoll, Ontario, GM halted production of electric vehicles, laying off hundreds of workers. Truck manufacturer Paccar Inc. then announced that 300 workers would be laid off at its plant in Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec.

This is just the beginning. Oshawa’s GM assembly plant will scale back production starting this fall, with 700 to 1,000 layoffs hitting Canadian workers.

This wreckage is a direct result of Trump’s 25% tariffs on Canadian automobiles exported to the U.S., as well as his new 25% tariff on heavy-duty trucks. Corporations with the ability to do so are shifting production to the U.S., leaving Canadian workers in the dust.

This raises the question: What has Prime Minister Mark Carney been doing for the past six months while the tariffs have been in place?

It seems clear that getting some relief from these tariffs took a back seat to Carney’s decision to jet around the world, putting in appearances at U.N. meetings and summits. The prime minister should have been laser-focused on resolving the tariff threat. But he wasn’t.

In fact: Carney was warned that any delays in securing a new deal with Trump would have disastrous consequences for Canadians, especially the vulnerable automaker sector. But those warnings appear to have been ignored by the government.

Carney seems to have thought that generous government funding would be enough to keep production in Canada and out of the U.S. Many of the multinational corporations now leaving Canadian workers high and dry have been the recipients of major moolah from the governments of Canada and Ontario. These funding packages were designed to convince those companies to keep jobs here rather than moving them to Illinois or Alabama or wherever.

Stellantis, for example, has cashed in on the Liberal government’s naivety. The federal government gave Stellantis $105 million to retool two Ontario plants, only to see the company take the money and run.

That’s in addition to another $529 million the feds forked over to Stellantis in 2022 to help the corporation modernize its plants so they could produce more electric vehicles — for which demand has plummeted.

Now, it’s clear the Liberals made a bad bet and have lost the farm. In response, Quebec ministers Mélanie Joly and François-Philippe Champagne have promised they will be re-examining the deals they inked to see if they can sue Stellantis’ pants off to recover some of the hundreds of millions of taxpayers’ dollars they’ve lost.

It’s doubtful they can recover a nickel. But even if they can: so what? The jobs that those dollars were meant to protect are gone and unlikely to ever return.

Carney and his team look downright incompetent in seeming to think that their financial incentives would keep production in Canada in the face of Trump’s massive tariffs. Didn’t we elect Carney precisely because he was seen as an expert in these matters?

As if things weren’t bad enough, they weren’t helped by Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s big mouth. On Thursday, Trump announced he was suspending trade talks with Canada altogether after Ontario unveiled a provocative and misleading advertising campaign that Trump took umbrage with.

But Ford’s screw-up mattered less than many might think. Beforehand, Carney admitted that a trade deal with Trump was “no longer within reach,” and that any relief on Trump’s tariffs would be pushed off until at least next year.

We’re already seeing the disastrous consequences of those 25% tariffs. Carney needed to get relief. Even a reduction would have made a difference.

But instead, he’s waving the white flag and promising to check in again in 2026.

Indeed, with Carney at the helm, those 25% tariffs may become permanent. Entire sections of the Canadian manufacturing economy will come to an end in that situation — beginning with automakers.

Facing this potential future wasteland in manufacturing, surely the federal government must be doing everything possible to boost the economy in other sectors?

Well, not really. In a much-ballyhooed primetime speech this week, Carney promised to double non-U.S. exports by 2035.

That’s an easy promise to make. But the things that must be done to achieve it are much harder.

For example: Does Carney support a new pipeline from Alberta to the B.C. coast to get Canadian energy products to tidewater? He won’t say, despite such a pipeline being crucial to boosting exports to non-U.S. countries.

Carney was elected because he promised he was the best man to deal with Trump’s tariffs. That has been an unmitigated disaster. Now, after his failure to get a deal, he’s promising to transform the Canadian export economy — just without committing to doing anything that’s politically unpopular to get there.

At some point, Canadians will hopefully begin to see through the promises.

Trump ends trade talks with Canada over “fake” Reagan ad

— Royce Koop is a professor of political studies at the University of Manitoba, and a guest writer for the Winnipeg Sun."

KOOP: With failure to get a tariff deal, Carney’s blunders are adding up

 

Carnage is not here to help make Canada great. Carnage is here to destroy and bankrupt Canada. The WEF globalist could careless about Canada. Carnage wants to take out from whatever he can get out of being a globalist dictator in Canada. 

Come on, lets face it BB, Canada is or soon will be dead. Canada is done and nothing can save it now. With the two MP's leaving the conservative party now leaves PP in a vulnerable situation. How many more conservative MP's will decide to quit the conservative party? 

Canada can only be seen as a failed country with no future in sight. Personally, the only thing that can save the west is separation from the east. Albertans would be very wise and get started on their referendum before the liberals become a majority. If Alberta does not separate very soon, i think that it might be too late for them to go. The WEF lieberal globalists will be doing everything within their power to try and force Alberta to stay in Canada. 

It's Albertans call and they better start getting something going here soon or else. Just saying. 

 

[blackbird]

13 minutes ago, taxme said:

If Alberta does not separate very soon, i think that it might be too late for them to go.

Former Liberal PM Jean Chretien was interviewed on the CBC a couple weeks ago and spewed a lot of anti-Alberta garbage.  

CBC reported the interview: 

"Smith frames Alberta’s pipeline proposal as “a test of whether Canada works as a country” since other provinces and territories get to export their key products around the world while her province faces restrictions.

Alberta throne speech pledges new pipelines and a boost for artificial intelligence

Alberta will need B.C. government’s support to build proposed pipeline: energy minister

Chrétien dismissed Smith’s argument, saying the province is landlocked and “they never sold as much oil as they do today, and they’re complaining as if they were bankrupt.” 

“You know, you’re not alone in a country. You live with other provinces, we’re all Canadians, and the values of Canada says we’re able to share,” the former prime minister said.   unquote

Chretien obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. 

Chretien says Alberta is selling a lot of oil.  But he ignores the fact that 90% of the oil goes to the U.S.   He ignores the fact that Quebec and B.C. are blocking pipelines to tidewater which would allow Alberta to sell twice as much oil and ship overseas to the rest of the world.  That would also bring in billions of dollars for Canada.

The fact is Alberta contributes billions of dollars in equalization payments that goes to Quebec.  Alberta gives,  Quebec takes.  The CBC should ask Quebec why they blocked Energy East from building a pipeline through Quebec to ship Alberta's oil across the Atlantic and into the maritime provinces.  Ask Chretien why Quebec blocks fracking and natural gas extraction in Quebec.  Alberta contributes far more than it's share to Confederation.  Quebec just receives and doesn't give.  Chretien is no help to national unity.  He doesn't understand the west and doesn't care.  We in the west are just the slaves of Quebec and the east.

Edited November 8, 2025 by blackbird

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

You promise? I doubt that. LMAO!

 

You know I don't need to which is why you give your traditional signal of surrender at the end  

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Sure kid...except that's the only thing we've got in common.

I wish that were true. Sadly we both know it isn't

I'm  intelligent successful well-educated and smart enough to know not to vote liberal. We have nothing in common  

[herbie]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Jean Chretien was interviewed on the CBC a couple weeks ago and spewed a lot of anti-Alberta garbage. 

You mean pro-Canadian common sense? Or you mean like how not supporting the bombing of Gaza hospitals and day cares is antisemitism?

Edited November 8, 2025 by herbie

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm  intelligent successful well-educated and smart enough to know not to vote liberal. We have nothing in common  

Probably not. I knew not to vote for Liberals when I was just a dumbass deckhand 50 years ago after I saw how DFO took care of their billionaire buddies around the allocation/opportunity table.

Conservatives were no different.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You'll certainly see me LMAO at how you blame people around here for voting for Liberals and acting as if right wing shit is completely odourless.

 

So you admit to the thousands of liberal defense posts and lack of the defense of any other party  You just think I'm a jerk for pointing it out   

Well fair enough

 

 

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I simply don't see it as a reason to vote for your beloved Poilievre and the Conservatives

I In other words you prefer to support corruption. You feel that the dishonestycriminal activities of the liberals which we have proven at length here and are a matter of public record are fine as long as your hatred of the conservatives justifies it.

Basically you hate conservatives more than you hate corruption lies and generational debt that will cripple the future.

Now there you go. Stalin hated capitalists and the nobility, hitler hated the Jews, you hate  conservatives. Your kind has always had to hate something

I don't vote conservative because of who I hate, I vote conservative because of what I love. Canada, the next generation, prosperity, that kind of thing.

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you admit to the thousands of liberal defense posts and lack of the defense of any other party  You just think I'm a jerk for pointing it out   

No I think you're a jerk for mocking my reasons for not voting for Liberals. It always underscores how you also support the billionaires too.

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I don't vote conservative because of who I hate, I vote conservative because of what I love.

Which appears to be richer billionaires at the expense of ordinary Canadians. The Liberals are on your side...right-wing that is to say.

Edited November 8, 2025 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No I think you're a jerk for mocking my reasons for not voting for Liberals.

It's painfully obvious that you're lying about it. So you think I'm a jerk for telling the truth.

You spend ages on here trying to blame the conservatives for what justin did. Like I said you spend thousands and thousands of hours defending the liberals like they were your religion and I never see you doing that with anyone else, be at the conservatives or the block or the greens or the NDP.

And your defensive the liberals is absolute. Once in a blue moon you'll throw a tiny acknowledgment out there that some of the stuff they did wasn't very good maybe sort of but then immediately launched back into defending them.

You further talk repetitively about how we shouldn't vote against them. When I say things like any party that displays the corruption they display should be shunned by the voters you disagree and say that it doesn't matter.

I don't believe that you don't vote liberal. It is absolutely undeniable that you are dishonest person in general and I see no reason why you wouldn't lie about that. And your behavior indicates that you're not telling the truth.

So there you go. I suppose it's possible you don't vote liberal but that's not what the evidence suggests. The problem with being a chronic liar such as you are Is that you have zero credibility if you suddenly decide to start telling the truth.

 

[eyeball]

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You spend ages on here trying to blame the conservatives for what justin did.

Yer a fricken loon...LMAO!

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Probably not. I knew not to vote for Liberals when I was just a dumbass deckhand 50 years ago after I saw how DFO took care of their billionaire buddies around the allocation/opportunity table.

Conservatives were no different.

Nobody believes you.

You say that kind of crap in order to make your constant defenses of the liberals seem more valid. "I think the liberals are doing great and i'm not even a liberal!!"

Sure kid. 

So I would guess that carney trickles your fancy less than Trudeau did.

[taxme]

On 11/7/2025 at 4:50 PM, blackbird said:

Former Liberal PM Jean Chretien was interviewed on the CBC a couple weeks ago and spewed a lot of anti-Alberta garbage.  

CBC reported the interview: 

"Smith frames Alberta’s pipeline proposal as “a test of whether Canada works as a country” since other provinces and territories get to export their key products around the world while her province faces restrictions.

Alberta throne speech pledges new pipelines and a boost for artificial intelligence

Alberta will need B.C. government’s support to build proposed pipeline: energy minister

Chrétien dismissed Smith’s argument, saying the province is landlocked and “they never sold as much oil as they do today, and they’re complaining as if they were bankrupt.” 

“You know, you’re not alone in a country. You live with other provinces, we’re all Canadians, and the values of Canada says we’re able to share,” the former prime minister said.   unquote

Chretien obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. 

Chretien says Alberta is selling a lot of oil.  But he ignores the fact that 90% of the oil goes to the U.S.   He ignores the fact that Quebec and B.C. are blocking pipelines to tidewater which would allow Alberta to sell twice as much oil and ship overseas to the rest of the world.  That would also bring in billions of dollars for Canada.

The fact is Alberta contributes billions of dollars in equalization payments that goes to Quebec.  Alberta gives,  Quebec takes.  The CBC should ask Quebec why they blocked Energy East from building a pipeline through Quebec to ship Alberta's oil across the Atlantic and into the maritime provinces.  Ask Chretien why Quebec blocks fracking and natural gas extraction in Quebec.  Alberta contributes far more than it's share to Confederation.  Quebec just receives and doesn't give.  Chretien is no help to national unity.  He doesn't understand the west and doesn't care.  We in the west are just the slaves of Quebec and the east.

BC has pretty much become a communist country. BC will never do anything to help Alberta to be able to make any money by BC denying access to BC waters. BC is actually a no growth province. 

Indeed, french Quebec is alive and well thanks to Alberta and the taxpayer's of Alberta. Albertans should get the hell out of Canada as soon as they can because the theft of their tax dollars will continue on. While french Quebec laughs at English speaking Alberta, their cash cow, Albertans will continue to be bled of their money. Chretien is just another lieberal traitor to Canada. 

One would think that french Quebec would be quite happy with Alberta making more money. That would no doubt lead to Quebec stealing more money from Alberta. Canada is all about keeping french Quebec happy while the rest of English Canada will continue to suffer.  

The CBC is just another WEF corporate Zionist globalist media that will always support french Quebec no matter what they do or say. It's time Alberta. Let's get that referendum going. 😇

 

[herbie]

Not simply still stuck on Justin, attempting to discredit Chretien from 30 years ago is seen as progress to today's CPC

Edited November 9, 2025 by herbie