Misgendering Is Calling Someone Born With A Penis A Woman Or Someone Born With A Vagina A Man

[taxme]

On 10/25/2025 at 8:32 AM, Political Smash said:

 

 Misgendering is calling someone born with a penis a she, a her. Misgendering is calling someone born with a vagina a he or a him.

 

 It is also extremely offensive and insulting to what it means to be a man, what it means to be a woman and most importantly what it means to be heterosexual when we have such deceitful conspirators in office trying to spin the opposite as what it means to be misgendered.

 

 Being heterosexual doesn't include having sex with anyone born with the same sex genital that the heterosexual them self is born with.

 

 What is hateful if anything is the 2017 amendment to bill C-16 which attempts to dictate that you have to lie for a liar and deceiver from a compulsive obsessive lying deceiving organization full of bigots who do not want to accept themselves for what they are, pretend to be what they are not and never will be so they can go around hatefully robbing everyone else of the right, freedom and liberty to be what we factually are and this extremely sick and hateful organization is called the LGBT.

 

 No matter what these sick individuals do, the fact remains that a homosexual is someone that has sex with those born with the same sex genital that the homosexual them self is born with and that is a fact that will never change no matter how many extremely mentally redundant people get their genital surgically mutilated to try and pretend to be what they are not and will never be!

 

 If you are conceived with XY chromosomes you are born with a penis thus the only kind of male that exists among humans and that is a primary fact that will never change no matter how much this insane group of compulsive, obsessive liars hatefully lie to you and try to deceive you, the fact will never change.

 

 If you are conceived with XX chromosomes you are born with a vagina thus the only kind of female that exists among humans and that is a primary fact that will never change no matter how much this insane group of compulsive, obsessive liars hatefully lie to you and try to deceive you, the fact will never change.

 

 The World Economic Forum and with their sick agenda use the easily baited sock puppets known as the LGBT to make a mockery of society to set us up for divide and conquer by using them as a crash test dummy to see if they could get away with ignoring fact, making up lies, calling those lies their so called belief then trying to push such disgusting filth upon everyone else. Those using these sick individuals (who belong in an insane asylum), because they want to use the LGBT to divide and conquer you while making a mockery out of you, are also attempting to try and make you out to be the hater for not lying for these sick individuals because they want to divide and conquer you as they employ their hateful tactics against citizens. They lie so much, they are attempting to make misgendering out to be the opposite of what it is because the fact remains that misgendering is referring to someone born with a penis as a she or a her, or someone born with a vagina as a he or a him and it is a fact because they are the one's attempting to label so called trans for what they are not while also hatefully attempting to try and make a liar our of everyone else with such garbage as the 2017 amendment to Bill C-16!

 

 This whole trans rhetoric is primarily about helping homosexuals with a mental illness humiliate, traumatize, degrade heterosexuals with their sick and filthy lies and deceptions. Breast implants, chest augmentations, rear ends re vamped, Botox, reversing Adams apple etc. all to assist homosexuals with deceiving thus making a mockery of heterosexuals while attempting to make victimized heterosexuals out to be haters. Of course when heterosexuals become victimized as they realize what just happened and they know there will be no justice with the insanity manifestation we have for excuse as our so called government, they become infuriated and justly so because they were just victimized, humiliated, traumatized, degraded such suck sick and filthy, inexcusable and unforgivable lies and deceptions while the WEF along with their U.I.'s holding office sit back and laugh at making a mockery of our society as they do this deliberately for the divide and conquer narrative while also trying to paint you out to be the hater for becoming infuriated with being victimized! I do not advocate violence but I get why when such happens as heterosexuals might retaliate with violence when they snap at the disgusting thought of how they were just humiliated, traumatized and degraded by some mentally ill individual like those of the LGBT.

 

 Lies lead to war and divide, leads to chaos, leads to violence which is why it has always been my pleasure to fight for the destruction of the lgbt permanently and globally for the well being and sanity of current and future generations of the life on this planet!

 

 And these radicalized lgbt mentally ill radicals even turn to violence when people stand in the way of their sick and filthy lies and deceptions now that they have been radicalized over recent years, even killing people for not stooping to lie for these extremely sick and disgusting individuals like Charlie Kirk. I myself had a so called family member kick a door into my face drawing blood from my eye so very hatefully upon finding out I'm still actively fighting this disgusting filth and these radically charged compulsive obsessive liars seem to be so delusional to think no one should have the right to expose their factually revealed foundations of lies and deceptions because the government makes laws to try and make haters out of people for not stooping to go along with such disgusting filth while also passing legislation to further fuel their radically disgusting behavior! Our government has been radicalizing liars while trying to make criminals out of those of us for not lying for them. Our kids our growing up to be severely mentally disturbed due to this forced radicalization.

 

 A natural repulsion is not an irrational fear. Being against some mentally ill homosexual robbing you of the right, freedom and liberty to be heterosexual is not a phobia. It is not you being uncomfortable with your sexuality, it is you being extremely offended with some homosexual pretending to be what they are not and will never be so they can rob you of right, freedom and liberty to be what you are.

 

 If you are dumb enough to lie for the LGBT then you deserve to be lied too and deceived but thankfully I'm here to put an end to it permanently.

 

 It's like someone offers you fifty bucks an hour to do their yard work for them and after ten hours of hard labour doing a pristine job for them they tell you to get off of their property without paying you a cent. If you become furious you have the government calling you a hater and wanting to throw you in prison for life. How does that make sense you wonder, just look at what they are doing with the LGBT because it is precisely the same thing put into perspective.

 

 Yes we have sick individuals infiltrating our governments, Parliaments, Legislative assemblies, City councils etc. conspiring with the WEF against the citizens of Canada. The same people behind trying to force LGBT lies and deceptions upon everyone are the same people / kind of people who tried to corner everyone into getting a shot that was never even a vaccine during covid, (again the CDC on Sept. 10th 2021 removed the definition of vaccine and replaced it with their lies to pull off a global scam of which other dictionaries that were once credible were leaned upon by these greedy individuals behind the profits made by this scam to follow suit with the CDC to try and pull the wool over many peoples eyes and replace the definition of vaccine with lies) are the same people behind preventing Canadian natural gas and oil from being exported, the same people behind the climate hoax used to rob society in general of almost everything monetary wise (They claim that we are the cause of a problem that they can't even prove exists because not one of them has shared how 3% of the Earth's surface area occupied by humans raises the Earth's atmospheric temperature even so much as 0.000001 degree. Yes not even 30 percent of the Earth's surface area is land and humans only occupy ten percent of that land which means humans occupy 3% of the entire Earth's surface area. Go ahead and look that up), are the same people behind flooding the country with illegal invaders while paying each and every one of them out of your pockets, your childrens pockets, grand childrens pockets etc. 224 dollars per day for claiming refugee status while they are shacked up in a free hotel out of your pocket while they flood the food banks and drive around in new cars at your expense in new clothes etc. while the same people behind this label you a racist for becoming infuriated as you are being made impoverished as the country is infested with illegal invaders and crime runs amok in a two tier justice system where illegals have been getting away with violence and citizens made out to be haters for blowing the whistle. These are the same people / kind of people behind pushing safe supply to get rich as they make as many zombies out of citizens as they can. What doped up citizen is going to care to fight the good fight and make a stand for Canadians when their primary concern is their next fix on some extremely addicted drug! These are the same people behind trying to rob you of the freedom to protest by labelling you a hater and trying to make you out to be committing a hate crime or inciting violence for being against their lies and deceptions of which lies and deceptions incite violence, they just have the nerve to try and make those exposing their lies and deceptions out to be the ones inciting violence because all these individuals primarily do is lie and deceive as they continue to infiltrate our governments etc. for the WEF divide and conquer agenda of which the same lies and deceptions being forced upon several countries simultaneously for decades is factual evidence of conspiracy unfolding on international levels.

 

 The LGBT is a sick tool used by the WEF to see what they could get away with for decades now while they distract and discourage you from seeing any kind of genuine justice as lies and deceptions are being prioritized over fact by fools in office which is quite obviously beyond any shadow of doubt a mockery. What justice will you find in a court of so called law when factually exposed foundations of  lies are what's being upheld?!!

 

 It is my pleasure to stand strong against this insanity manifestation of lies and deceptions for the well being and sanity of Canadian citizens as well the life on this planet of which in some instances I have been fighting it for 25 years. This sick globalist agenda from this globalist crime organization that our some of our officials conspire with against us as they are eager to throw us under the bus as they even become wealthy doing it would be justified in finally being held into account for their actions. They commit tyranny, they commit treason! It's time for accountability. I highly suspect that the reason they want your guns is because the hate they force upon Canadians in the form of lies and deceptions forced through legislation for example as they rob Canadians blind is likely to eventually enrage people to the point of going ballistic on their sorry asses, sad to say but it is what I see and I am not advocating violence, just pointing out what I find obvious. The bully who has already been harassing you for years clearing out your locker before they punch you in the face. We need to stop this period! Those that stab you in the back trying to make it so you can do nothing about it! Think people, it's time to rise and put an end to this nonsense while handing out accountability for their actions!

 

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Primary Factual Fundamentalist

World Class Activist

David Jeffrey Spetch

Ps. Be good, be strong!

Ontario Canada

This is what things like this will keep happening if society keeps on voting tor liberals and lieberalism. Lieberalism is the same as socialism where both ideologs try to change the outcome of a normal and decent society and try to turn society into a freak show. Transgenderism is a freak show and is allowed to be seen as though it is normal for a man that wants to be a women and for a women that wants to be a man.

I say keep that transgender nonsense stuff in the closet where it belongs and stop trying to flaunt it onto society where no one really wants to see or know anything about that crazy lifestyle one bit. For the past coupe of decades this is what lieberalism has given us. A sick and crazy society full of sick and crazy lieberal imbeciles. 

I wonder as to how much longer it will be before beastiality and pedophilia will be recognized and flaunted as normal? I am pretty sure that lieberalism is working on that today. If those two diseases are allowed to come about and to try and entertain us with more sick lieberalism garbage than we should know by then that society is pretty much doomed.  🙄

[User]

19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. That's just an excuse. Look on this thread, people are gleeful that the number of trans people are going down. Down. Why do they care? According to you they don't

Just an excuse for what?

You can’t argue the facts, so you try to impugn the motives.

The facts remain the same, that this is more than just some dude thinking he is a woman going about his day. 
 

It’s people like you expecting actual woman to let him into their spaces, unfairly compete against him, and expecting us all to go along with this as if he really were a woman.

as to why we would be happy the numbers are going down?

Well, many reasons. That means less kids being told they need to go butcher themselves to appear to be something they are not. It means less kids being led into “gender affirming” care that is going to mess them up for their lives. 
 

But hey, you are all for the subjective “norms” arguments here to avoid having to engage earnestly, so why do you care what we care? 
 

If less people are engaged in this, then that is the norm and so much for your silliness. 

 

Edited October 27, 2025 by User

[taxme]

21 minutes ago, User said:

Just an excuse for what?

You can’t argue the facts, so you try to impugn the motives.

The facts remain the same, that this is more than just some dude thinking he is a woman going about his day. 
 

It’s people like you expecting actual woman to let him into their spaces, unfairly compete against him, and expecting us all to go along with this as if he really were a woman.

as to why we would be happy the numbers are going down?

Well, many reasons. That means less kids being told they need to go butcher themselves to appear to be something they are not. It means less kids being led into “gender affirming” care that is going to mess them up for their lives. 
 

But hey, you are all for the subjective “norms” arguments here to avoid having to engage earnestly, so why do you care what we care? 
 

If less people are engaged in this, then that is the norm and so much for your silliness. 

 

If MH ever made any sense here it would be a bloody miracle. Half the time he keeps babbling on here about something and half that time i cannot understand as to what he is trying to say here. Just saying. 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Defend your own fixation on other people's genitals, pervert.
You're the one that needs counselling if you're uncomfortable with that fetish.

Transgender men seem to have this fetish about wanting to become a woman. It's not normal but they feel that it is normal. And those perverts just want to say that they are a woman so they can have access to women's locker change room. I guess that some of them think that there will be one girl who might just like looking at their junk and get lucky. 🤣

[Venandi]

47 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Eat the rooster. Cut your losses.

Then how do I talk the hens into identifying as roosters and fertilizing eggs?

If you have no solution I'l be forced to revert back to conservative thinking and conclude that identity and gender selection has reasonable limitations. 

Now look what you've done, imagine all of the progressive farmers that will be shattered by that revelation...

Look Herb, I can do it too.

[herbie]

I know a middle aged lesbian with a sense of humour as sick as my own.
Her comment on men who want go trans: Whassa madder? Can't take it up the arse like a real homo?

Honest. neither of us give a shit other than thinking it's odd.
About as odd as thinking someone's forcing that on you.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

About as odd as thinking someone's forcing that on you.

I'm guessing your friend isn't a powerlifter.

Here's a stock photo of the current women's bench press record holder for Alberta. It was a lift of 370 lbs in March of 2023 and apparently it still stands today. 

Here's the why of it...

It will be interesting to see where the apex of buffoonery is to be found... in the mean time I'll keep supporting and encouraging the chickens as they navigate evolving fluidity issues and live their best lives. They still struggle a bit with racist  comments about being a subspecies of Red Junglefowl but we're working through it and making progress.

I'll keep you updated Herb... .

Cheers

Edited October 28, 2025 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

48 minutes ago, Venandi said:

I'm guessing your friend isn't a powerlifter.

Lots of people who believe in gender fluidity think that there should be rules about competition.

But, hey, why post a discussion about rights when a funny photo is out there to cut and paste...

[Venandi]

50 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

But, hey, why post a discussion about rights when a funny photo is out there to cut and paste...

If you think it's funny you missed the point entirely.

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, Venandi said:

If you think it's funny you missed the point entirely.

Ok, weird then.

The point is that you can't articulate a complicated argument with a photo.

[User]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

I know a middle aged lesbian with a sense of humour as sick as my own.
Her comment on men who want go trans: Whassa madder? Can't take it up the arse like a real homo?

Honest. neither of us give a shit other than thinking it's odd.
About as odd as thinking someone's forcing that on you.

16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok, weird then.

The point is that you can't articulate a complicated argument with a photo.

Not that you care, as you have not spent much time articulating anything here and ignore those who do. 

[Political Smash]

On 10/25/2025 at 8:51 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Your opinion is noted.

When you add that something is offensive, then you're flagging the issue as being a matter of public morality... which means it's a numbers game.

I get it.  People should be able to have their own definitions of things.

But others won't accept you, for example, if you call yourself a conservative but reject Chud politics, Trump, witch burning, Qanon etc.

Fact is not opinion but thanks for revealing how pathetic you are at ignoring fact while instead trying to make your obvious lies the issue. Definitions have meaning, trying to redefine meaning as the opposite is chaos as what they left and WEF does compulsively and obsessively, a tactic used by cheap and pathetic liars to try and confuse the the weak minded while they try and make criminals out of people for not going along with their sick lies and deceptions.

On 10/25/2025 at 11:50 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

I’ll call people whatever they want to be called. In my neck of the woods this is a vanishingly rare problem anyway. 

Because you are either a pushover who has no clue the relevance of fact or you are one of those paid shills trying to bend the public to the will of weak and pathetic liars.

On 10/25/2025 at 12:53 PM, User said:

The TL/DR version of this:

Those pushing this transgenderism madness onto society and onto kids have distorted the language by trying to claim it is "misgendering" to not refer to someone by the gender they "identify" as.

The point being, that it is factually and actually misgendering to refer to someone as something they are not. Those of us who care about facts and not living in the delusional lies others want to push, will not play along. 

I'll never play along but good to see you get the gist.

On 10/25/2025 at 1:28 PM, herbie said:

Hey here's something far more important to whine about

TEN DOLLARS for 5 or 6 kiwi fruits.
Who gives a flying f*ck about transgender bullshit? Food prices affect YOU, if someone's transgender that doesn't.

If that is so important to you then go ahead and whine about it, I'll stick with far more important issues such as the destruction of the lgbt permanently and globally for the well being and sanity of current and future generations of the life on this planet.

On 10/25/2025 at 1:48 PM, User said:

Classic leftists dishonest tactics. You push this transgenerism madness onto society and onto children, then when people oppose it you play it down like why is this a big deal...

 

Yeah and they have been doing it while far more important issues have been transpiring over the years too. I highly suspect that some of the people on here are being paid from the hundreds of millions Trudeau budgeted for so called activists who also show up to sabotage peaceful protests by decent citizens. Well stated User.

On 10/25/2025 at 3:09 PM, herbie said:

So only classic leftists are concerned about actual problems, they don't have to invent them? Or ONLY leftists aren't interested in f*cking over someone else as their top concern?

I mean pardoning actual most underserving criminals doesn't concern you.
Screwing up the entire world trade system doesn't concern you.
Murdering people on the high seas doesn't concern you.
Arresting and jailing people without due process doesn't concern you.
Ruling by decree and not Congress doesn't concern you.
Publicly humiliating your Admirals and Generals doesn't concern you.
Using the Armed forces against the citizens doesn't concern you.
Tearing down the White House without approval, permits or consultation to build a gaudy inwanted ballroom, paving the garden over doesn't concern you.
Constant lying to the public (latest: how Reagan, the man that began the Free Trade Era "loved tariffs) doesn't concern you.
Destroying and subverting every democratic institution and program your country ever stood for doesn't concern you.

Not much else does save for f*cking over someone else like immigrants or LGBTQ people does, right? No that's not a reichsadler pin on your lapel it's a bald eagle. Totally different than a Nazi one.

According to this guy, pushing factually exposed foundations of lies and deceptions upon everyone is being concerned about actual problems when they are the one's who create much of the problems society faces with their sick and filthy lies and deceptions. Biden released how many underserving criminals?!! Including Fauci! Leftists up here in Canada are certainly screwing out trade system, just look at Trudeau and Carney (leftists) blocking Canadian exports deliberately while investing in other countries where businesses they have shares in can profit. Ruling by decree, and not congress you mean when the leftist Obama left marriage up to SCOTUS to decide by bypassing Congress thus making a soon to be short lived mockery of marriage as well a Mockery of SCOTUS?!! High see's murder, how about illegal invaders getting away with murder along with a get out of jail free card courtesy of leftists!!! Making a trans mockery of armed forces should be a major concern for everyone and thanks to leftists like Biden yet another concern added to our plates. Forcing institutions to lie or not receive funding is what leftists have been doing for years and for example trans garbage and now you call public institution democratic because they are infected with lies and deception go figure. Illegal immigration and compulsive obsessive liars and deceivers trying to force everyone else to lie for them so they can rob everyone else of the right, freedom and liberty to be what we are is what has been f'kng the general population over for years. Enough of such disgusting filthy garbage.

On 10/26/2025 at 7:10 AM, Army Guy said:

I'm just wonder what happened to all that English schooling we received, how to use yesterdays genders, and then one day we wake up and the next generation has change it all on us....because of some fantasy they decided to makeup and force upon the rest of us....And what is really mind blowing is just how easy it was for the rest of the population to buy into all of it....

How our academic society has bought into all of it, and now it is part of the daily education system...without any facts based on reality or science....

Don't get me wrong you want to identify as a dog and howl at the moon in your own house go for it...but don't include me in your fantasy...

 

gender = what chromosomes you are conceived as thus determines what sex you are born with thus are for life. That never has nor ever will change no matter how much liars try to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. How you wonder, It's called using the main stream media to slander officials that oppose lies and deceptions, it's called liberal policy coupled with only funding tax dollars to institutions willing to force leftist / WEF lies and deceptions upon people frequenting those institutions like schools, public libraries etc. 

On 10/26/2025 at 7:51 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I'm going to estimate the time you spent in school learning about genders is less than one minute.

And what w we socialize our next generation into is only partially based on facts.

We recited the Lord's Prayer, and then we stopped.  Neither event had anything to do with facts, other than the fact that curriculum is an outcome of a sociopolitical scrum that determines what "the" public thinks is best.

It's only going to be fought out in the public sphere, and with dialogue. 

Do you know that the proportion of Canadians who support trans girls and oppose trans girls in girls sports absolutely is about the same? 

My position is that this is a big change and that a lot of people are not on the same page. So we have to step carefully, with respect for all sides. 

I am not a culture Warrior.  I don't think people should be vilified for not accepting trans folks. But it seems like over the long Time frame they will be accepted.

That's how you spin forcing factually exposed foundations of lies upon the public along with vacant un backed claims in desperate attempt to make what is into what your obviously delusional head would rather it be. Let's not forget about people being banned from websites etc. for sharing facts that expose leftist lies, while also being threatened to be sued or lose their jobs for exposing factually exposed foundations of leftist lies due to garbage known as liberal policy being used as internet law since Obama took office in 2009 thus the majority being silenced. Trans garbage will be criminalized on way or another. Mark my words.

On 10/26/2025 at 9:17 AM, blackbird said:

BC schools have declared war against any parents who question their gender ideology taught in schools.

Amy Hamm: Not even parents can escape the speech police at B.C. schools

After years of liberal policy and school boards only being funded by tax dollars if they are willing to force factually exposed foundations of lies on innocent little children. Let's also not forget that the 2017 amendment to Bill C-16 is when allot of teachers (doctors, scientists etc.) quit their job to maintain dignity with their profession and were replaced by woke garbage. Others turned their backs on their profession to keep their jobs thus we got stuck with sabotage garbage ruining our childrens education with sick and filthy lies and deceptions.

On 10/26/2025 at 11:02 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Didn't you already post this somewhere else? Stop spamming please.

They are welcome to post whatever they like on my thread. You want to attack spamming, attack lgbt spamming their garbage on television and all over the internet time and time again etc. Make yourself useful in a positive way for once.

Edited October 28, 2025 by Political Smash

[Political Smash]

On 10/26/2025 at 11:45 AM, User said:

Do you care that others think poorly of how you act in public when you push this transgenderism nonsense?

 

 Likely just hides behind an alias online.

On 10/26/2025 at 1:17 PM, blackbird said:

I posted it as a new OP, but put it here because it is related to the topic of gender ideology.  The other OP is about the gender police in BC public schools, so it is a different subject.

 Stop telling to stop spamming please.  This is not spamming.  It is on two different main topics, gender ideology and the other of about the gender police in schools.   You should be able to see the difference.

 They are just trying to to make their irrelevant rhetoric the issue to try and hide they have no validity.

On 10/26/2025 at 1:19 PM, Michael Hardner said:

It is spamming. You're posting the same event on different threads. There's probably dozens of threads you can post this on. Would that be okay? 

No, it wouldn't.

They are welcome to share relevant information on my thread all they like, if you don't like it well it pleases me to know.

On 10/26/2025 at 2:30 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well why can't someone identify as an attack helicopter?  That's the Ricky Gervais take. 

I guess no one really wants to do that, gender identity is something else entirely, So people are revising their idea of gender to allow for it. 

People aren't posing as women to get the ladies discount at the bar or what not.  It's an actual identity issue for people, and so this is how we've worked it out. 

Most people don't really mind that some are gender fluid. 

My interest in navigating through this is that we have to use the public sphere In the way that it has worked for us in the past. 

So I try not to denigrate people who have trouble with this new social issue. And I appreciate it when people take it seriously.

 

Being threatened to be sued or losing your job for not going along with lgbt lies hardly qualifies as not minding.

On 10/26/2025 at 4:22 PM, Army Guy said:

Not the case at all, i took biology class all through high school, only 3 genders were mentioned, male , female and inter sex which was rare.....Today there is an infinite amount of genders , This is were the fantasy comes into play....Our education system has picked up this fantasy and run with it hard...promoting it, convincing children that they should explore their gender which there is no limits...I'm not a medical expert but as far as the medical community is concerned there are the 3 genders....and you can't identify as a dog or cat, or what ever else you may think you are....

They have also bastardized the English language as well hijacked it to further there fantasy....all enforced by todays education system...and government some how....Not based on facts or science but someone fantasy...

Everything we were taught in school was based on fact, it had viable sources , there was no false news in the day, if there was no fact it was declared as unproven, something to be ignored until proven...The moon is made of cheese, we know to be false because it has been proven false by science...the earth is not flat as some suggest....even though there are some today that still think so..

the belief in god has faded, and a lot of people have moved on in the western world...I'm going to say in Canada for the most part, hard to prove the bible as fact when it is based on here say...The public may think it knows best but in most cases, they are wrong, the public believed the earth was flat for a long time....and science came along and proved them, wrong....that's what is the missing piece in all this gender theory....science and facts....

 Perhaps those half of them do not have daughters....Why is it that grown men who could not compete very well in men's leagues decide to say there are trans and compete in women leagues only to dominate against women.....would you allow your daughter to Box or practice marshal arts with men, what about football, full contact hockey, Rugby....why is there not mix leagues of these sports ?...what about the military why are there no women in Special forces as tier 1 operators?....Maybe the other half are not educated in the physical difference between men and women....

I thought i was stepping carefully, i thought telling my kids there was no such thing as monsters, dragons, etc  because they were based on facts that these mythical creatures where products of someone fantasy or imagination, and no amount of education system or ...imagination is going to make them come to life...

Like i said want to be howl at the moon, or called a certain name you made up then fine do that in your own space or home, but don't expect the rest of us to play in that fantasy, until you have convinced science and medical staff to be on the same page...I'm like you do you, I really don't care what you do on your time.... and don't drag me into your fantasy....

I don't think i vilified any trans in this conversation, if you not happy in your skin, by all means once you become of age, then change it all, on your dime....what i don't agree with is give children live altering drugs, medical procedures, or the infinite amount of genders, or changing the English language itis one of the hardest languages to learn as it is, no how do you explain they/ them could be a single person or a group of people or some one with mental health issuers.`

There has to be boundaries on everything we just can't wake up one day and start changing things 2 +2 now equals 7 becasue social media thinks it is the new fade....the English language has been around forever, and while we add words everyday we don not change the structure of it... 

 

Hermaphrodite is a physical defect, not a mental illness.

On 10/26/2025 at 5:35 PM, eyeball said:

Yeah but if a lefty said 4, some right winger would spend 8 pages arguing it meant 22. 

The fad to never agree or give an inch is getting a little old. Take climate change for example....yeah yeah I know, so what it changes all the time.

 Facts aren't agreed upon, they are either recognized or ignored which is why I stick with fact especially when it comes to the foundation of a primary issue. As mentioned within the OP, the left (the easily baited WEF sock puppets known as the lgbt) ignore fact, make up lies, call those lies their belief then start trying to force such rubbish upon everyone else. Claiming to believe in something factually revealed as false makes you a phoney.

On 10/26/2025 at 6:06 PM, Army Guy said:

Pretty sure climate change is backed by science....just guessing , maybe in BC it is different...

and people on the right just don't have the time or energy to think of things of fantasy....they are to busy trying to fix what the left has broken...Canada is meant to be broken....the majority has spoken...

The climate changes from a day to day basis. WEF imbeciles hijacked the term like leftists (lgbt) do and claimed that humans are the cause of something that they can't even prove exists, that humans are the cause of global temperature rising and they ignorantly refer to such as climate change. Of which not one of these climate hoaxers, as mentioned within the OP has proven 3% of the earth's surface area occupied by humans raises the Earths atmospheric temperature by so much as even 0.000001 degree yet they keep right on pushing the lie to support their divide and conquer narrative.

 

Not convinced elections Canada has not been sabotaged like the RCMP has, the CBC has, public institutions have etc. So don't be so sure. Oh and let's not forget almost 10 million people hurried into the country over the past decade to vote liberal likely as a condition for entry.

Edited October 28, 2025 by Political Smash

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 10/26/2025 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I'm starting to wonder if people realize that others would think poorly of them if they ever acted like this in public.

Do they never get out or what? 

[herbie]

I see after several months of mentioning them, someone still can't understand what a straw man fallacy exactly is.

[User]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

I see after several months of mentioning them, someone still can't understand what a straw man fallacy exactly is.

He screamed into the void... 

4 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Do they never get out or what? 

Speaking from experience?

[Political Smash]

On 10/26/2025 at 7:12 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Everything old is new again. I'll bet when you were young the old people about complained about guys with long hair. Am I right? 

Let's have a big meeting to figure it out in 20 years... When we're all gone.

 Oh so that's the best you have for forcing factually exposed foundations of lies upon everyone?!! Talk about desperately scrambling to try and make irrelevant rhetoric the issue.

On 10/26/2025 at 7:35 PM, User said:

You said earlier you appreciate when people take it seriously, as you are here comparing hair style norms at the time to a man thinking he is a woman today. 

Let us know when you are going to be serious because this is not it. 

 

That's because they lack something called relevance when it comes to the foundation of this issue.

20 hours ago, Venandi said:

But you didn't answer the question though.

I'll put it another way and agree with your premise above as a starting point. I'd say yes, be as gender fluid as you want but have the courtesy not to include me (or others) in it.

On the other hand, if you're going to include me (and others) there should be an element of logic and fairness in any process that conveys rights (opportunities might be a better word) that a person not claiming the identity doesn't enjoy. If we, as a society, are going to convey very specific rights (opportunities) to people who make an assertion of "identity" then the concept itself should (at least) have the appearance of being universal and we should collectively acknowledge the unfairness of any process that isn't.  

If a biological man can compete, win, and set lasting national records in women's sports and then shower with the ladies after the event then I would submit that we are going beyond a simple expression of "identify" and entering the realm of legitimizing a "feeling" by giving it legal status, sharp teeth, and the capability to directly impact others

What I'm suggesting here is that anyone willing to make that leap and argue vociferously in it's defence should logically extend the same identity rights to endeavours more easily defended than men becoming women because they feel like it. That's not to minimize legitimate gender dysmorphia but to acknowledge that it shouldn't convey specific rights and opportunities that would be unavailable in its absence without careful consideration and an element of universality that I would define as equity. 

If I'm in good shape, can easily do more pull-ups and pushups than the average 25 year old and still cut the medical why shouldn't I be able to identify as a 25 year old even though I'm clearly not in terms of my birth. 

See what I mean?

I'd say that In my example (above) that I'm using a more easily defendable standard of men against men...in fact it's old men against young men.

I don't mean to sound arrogant about my ability to hang with the 20 somethings BTW, I know the day is at hand when I can't... BUT IT"S NOT TODAY. 

So, I'll restate the question and anyone defending biological men competing in women's competitions should have an immediate answer to it:

If I can cut the medical and hang with the 20 somethings in terms of selection criteria, why can't I identify as 25 years old and be afforded the opportunities I'm currently denied solely by virtue of birth?

(see image included)

19 hours ago, Goddess said:

One of the reasons we have women's washrooms & changing rooms is for propriety & decency.

Women shouldn't have to explain to male colleagues or strangers (or to judges) why men should not be in the room where women deal with menstruation.

 

Being a woman is not a costume you put on.

 

Lies lead to war and divide, of which they don't care about justice.

18 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yet another gender-bending thread eh? Good...good...

How long is this nonsense going to continue? 

Men and women who "feel" like the opposite gender, may practice their gender-bending and LARP about as they please. However they may not expose their warped ideals to kids or adolescents. Nor may they claim to actually be the gender of their choice. That choice was made for them by genetics.

It will continue until the lgbt is abolished and all of their sick and filthy lies and deceptions removed from policy, legislation and everything.

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. What does that mean "don't include you in it" ?
2. Yes, gender identification is universal.  "Opportunities" is a different angle to approach the problem with.  I would submit that genders each have "opportunities" and "challenges".
3. The sports question is a side issue IMO.  I don't think you need to be bound to any sports rules just because you accept gender fluidity as a social construct.
4. For the same reason you can't identify as a giant, a truck, a dinosaur etc.  However you CAN identify as a poet, an athlete or any number of social monikers that describe people.  We are moving towards a society where "gender" is seens as a social construct more than a biological one.  

 There is the fact that being conceived xy means as a human you are born male thus will always be male. There is the fact that being conceived xx means as a human you are born female thus will always be female.  From there we have liars who try telling you otherwise.

16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

100% right, but long hair was a fashion statement of the time, this topic we are talking about changing the English language structure, and having someone with mental health issues dictate to the rest of the world on who they are or what they are..... And finally the fact that we think it is OK for men to compete with women in sports, and not see the obvious physical challenges to that....not to mention those that would take advantage of all of that....and why has no one said they would start their own trans league where everyone would have the same p[physical advantages...

That's the liberal thing to do, kick the problem down the road...let someone else figure it out....

 They are that demented.

16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Is it just US being resistant to change, or now just accepting what ever life decides to change, that there is no boundaries or norms , that today WE as a collective have to accept people who think they are animals, or fire trucks, etc, or use the unlimited pronouns that they themselves have made up, and we are expected to use for their mental health.. Myself i go out of my way not to inter act with people who are having difficulties with mental health issues...

...and then the fact we already for the most part excepting trans people and their mental health issues, but now they want it all meaning the sports portion....but what we have not talked about is once it becomes norm for trans women to play a role in sports where do real women come into play...do they just accept that they will never be in the top candidates in their sports... that sounds a little sexist is it not , we give rights to trans women, but take them away from regular women for the lack of a better term...Why can't they have their own league ? and we could accommodate everyone...even construct new changing rooms...

 If you accept lies and deceptions then you deserve to be lied too and deceived but I am here to put a stop to it.

[Political Smash]

15 hours ago, Venandi said:

I don't want to put words in your mouth but:

... you seem to be suggesting that a 60 something man who spends hours everyday training and can physically out preform the majority of 25-30 year olds currently serving rises to the spectre of a truck or dinosaur the moment he seeks to be identified as a capable contender for service after mandatory retirement age. 

.... on the other hand, you suggest that a man can morph into a women (and vice versa) simply because he/she feels like it.

If so, I think you have your dinosaur analogy exactly backwards and if you hope to gain support for you theory of "POOF" a man is a women" then you are going to have to expand the definition of identity outward to include identities (or even equivalencies) that can actually be certified with objective and scientifically backed performance standards.

 

It's called their lies catching up with them.

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. I would say that there are boundries and norms.  We don't have to accept that people are things that we all agree are ridiculous.

2. Like I said - 2 different issues.

Ridiculous such as calling a man a woman. Facts aren't agreed upon, they are either recognized or ignored.

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  No, I was answering the general case - "What if a person insists on identifying as [X]"  If people are challengeing ageist norms, then that indeed is something that has popular support.
 

If someone is born with a penis and claim to be a woman that makes them a liar period.

15 hours ago, User said:

No, you have no ability to offer a logical, rational, fact based response to defend your silly positions so you keep obscuring this with subjective “norms” or popularity, but even then won’t give any specific standards.

 

 

What do you expect from liars?

Edited October 28, 2025 by Political Smash

[Political Smash]

Heavy hitter video and we have every right to be furious

 

There is only one kind of heterosexual 101 fact step right up for a real education

 

https://www.brighteon.com/6ca2d6ba-cff0-4a42-91e3-979252993ced 

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

I see after several months of mentioning them, someone still can't understand what a straw man fallacy exactly is.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that I used the term recently 😕

[Venandi]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The point is that you can't articulate a complicated argument with a photo.

It isn't a complicated argument. 

In the absence of proof that the information I posted is factually incorrect, the picture illustrates the outcome achieved.

If you aren't going to consider unintended consequences in advance, and then refuse to judge regulatory action by outcomes and effects later, any pretence that argument stands aa a potential remedy or that the issue should be "considered complex" simply falls flat with sensible people.

The only credible argument you can make here is one that shows this doesn't adversely and unfairly impact women in general and female sports in particular.

I would certainly agree with the notion that your attempt at arguing in its favour is "complicated" though and so far you haven't made one that qualifies as compelling.

 

Edited October 28, 2025 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

1. It isn't a complicated argument. 

2. In the absence of proof that the information I posted is factually incorrect, the picture illustrates the outcome achieved.

3. If you aren't going to consider unintended consequences in advance, and then refuse to judge regulatory action by outcomes and effects later, any pretence that argument stands aa a potential remedy or that the issue should be "considered complex" simply falls flat with sensible people.

4. The only credible argument you can make here is one that shows this doesn't adversely and unfairly impact women in general and female sports in particular.

5. I would certainly agree with the notion that your attempt at arguing in its favour ...

 

1.  I'd say that if you can't produce a workable answer to the challenges easily and quickly, it's complicated.  And here I'm talking about the overall issue of trans rights not the weightlifter one which itself is easier than other trans/sports questions.

2. A picture is a visual impression of a moment in time.  It's not proof of anything, except perhaps that the observation occurred.  The invisible questions/causes/themes behind it can't be shown in a picture.

3. Your assertion that 'sensible people' are on one side of this reveals a tendency to dismiss those who oppose you.  Note that I am not doing that to either side myself.  I'm looking at the public sphere.

4. I'm not arguing for or against trans rights - you keep missing that because I am showing how your argument would fail with those who unreservedly support trans rights.

5.  Last time: I'm arguing for reasonable process on the question of rights.  If you think I oppose you then you're mistaken.

[Venandi]

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'd say that if you can't produce a workable answer to the challenges easily and quickly, it's complicated. 

And I'd say that you manufactured the challenges, turned a blind eye to the people you disadvantages as a result of it and blamed people like me for not creating solutions to those manufactured problems.  

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's not proof of anything, except perhaps that the observation occurred.

There ya go, it looks like you did understand the point I was making.  

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not arguing for or against trans rights - you keep missing that because I am showing how your argument would fail with those who unreservedly support trans rights.

Well let's stand it on its head then.

In order for your argument in favour to prevail with me you would have to make a credible argument that allowing men to compete in women's sports doesn't unfairly (and unreasonably) disadvantage women.

I'd submit that so far you haven't done that and "reasonable people" don't see a venue for you to accomplish it... especially in the presence of results like the picture you assert is nothing more than a moment in time. That's a problem in and of itself that doesn't bode well for rational discourse.

If you want to approach it from a rights based perspective then I think you would have to justify why the rights of men to compete in women's sports should trump the rights of women to compete fairly with their biological peers. 

Until you can make either of those cases I won't steer in circles around this particular buoy any further.

Edited October 28, 2025 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Venandi said:

1. And I'd say that you manufactured the challenges, turned a blind eye to the people you disadvantages as a result of it and blamed people like me for not creating solutions to those manufactured problems.  

2. There ya go, it looks like you did understand the point I was making.  

3. In order for your argument in favour to prevail with me you would have to make a credible argument that allowing men to compete in women's sports doesn't unfairly (and unreasonably) disadvantage women.

4. I'd submit that so far you haven't done that and "reasonable people" don't see a venue for you to accomplish it... especially in the presence of results like the picture you assert is nothing more than a moment in time. That's a problem in and of itself that doesn't bode well for rational discourse.

5. If you want to approach it from a rights based perspective then I think you would have to justify why the rights of men to compete in women's sports should trump the rights of women to compete fairly with their biological peers. 

6. Until you can make either of those cases I won't steer in circles around this particular buoy any further.

1. If you think that, then aren't you saying that indeed it IS a complicated question ?  And how exactly did I turn a blind eye ?  Not getting it.  How did I blame people ?

Please answer those before we proceed because I'm not going to continue entertaining your misstatements forever.

2.  Ok, I never denied that the photo is real.  My point was stated above, that a photo doesn't capture the wider discussion that this needs.

3.  First of all - again - I'm not making that argument but I am saying that it's a reasonable POV held by many people in "the" public.  I don't actually have an opinion on trans women taking part in weightlifting, mostly because I don't care enough to inform myself on the topic.  So you won't find me arguing for/against this particular case.

4.  That picture being a moment in time doesn't mean it's fake.  Let's just ask: do you think any reasonable people disagree with you on this topic ?

5.  Well if you want to discuss it with people who oppose your point of view, you probably need to agree to some terminology in order to take part in a "reasonable" discussion.  Calling trans women "men" is probably a no-go to engage in reasonable discussion, just as having them openly calling you "bigot" in the discussion wouldn't be allowed.  

And, yes, I agree people would have to justify the trade-off in rights in such a discussion.

6.  I suspect you don't think people who disagree with you are worth discussing with.  For example, my questioning of your assumptions makes you see me as being "on the other side" when I'm not there at all.  

If you don't think pro-trans folks are reasonable then I recommend not discussing with them.

[ExFlyer]

18 hours ago, taxme said:

This is what things like this will keep happening if society keeps on voting tor liberals and lieberalism. Lieberalism is the same as socialism where both ideologs try to change the outcome of a normal and decent society and try to turn society into a freak show. Transgenderism is a freak show and is allowed to be seen as though it is normal for a man that wants to be a women and for a women that wants to be a man.

I say keep that transgender nonsense stuff in the closet where it belongs and stop trying to flaunt it onto society where no one really wants to see or know anything about that crazy lifestyle one bit. For the past coupe of decades this is what lieberalism has given us. A sick and crazy society full of sick and crazy lieberal imbeciles. 

I wonder as to how much longer it will be before beastiality and pedophilia will be recognized and flaunted as normal? I am pretty sure that lieberalism is working on that today. If those two diseases are allowed to come about and to try and entertain us with more sick lieberalism garbage than we should know by then that society is pretty much doomed.  🙄

This was an issue and even had legislation passed in the Harper conservative government.

Get some facts LOSER LOL

"Yes, gender identity was an issue during Stephen Harper's time as Prime Minister (2006–2015), particularly regarding legislative efforts to extend human rights protections to transgender individuals

. While the issue was less prominent than it has become in recent years, it was a source of significant political and ideological division. 

 

Key legislative debates

 

Throughout Harper's tenure, a private member's bill seeking to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code was repeatedly introduced and debated. 

 

• Bill C-389 (2009–2011): An early version of the bill was introduced by NDP MP Bill Siksay. It passed the House of Commons with multi-partisan support in February 2011 but was killed when an election was called before the Senate could vote on it.
• Bill C-279 (2011–2015): The bill was reintroduced in the next Parliament. It passed the House of Commons in 2013 but faced strong opposition in the Senate, where Conservative senators delayed and ultimately gutted it with amendments. The bill officially died when Parliament was dissolved for the 2015 election"