How Confederation (Canada) is shafting western Canada

[blackbird]

We can see how Confederation (Canada as one country) is a losing proposition for western provinces.

Alberta's energy industry gets hammered.

No more pipeline laws.

Tanker ban on the BC north coast.

Now the agriculture industry on the prairies is being destroyed because Ottawa put 100% tariffs on EVs from China to protect the auto industry down in Ontario.

Yet western Canada has been paying billions of dollars to Quebec in equalization payments.

So what is the benefit of western Canada being in Confederation?  It all seems to be a losing deal for the west.   All take by central Canada and no give.

[CdnFox]

Yeah, most of us call that 150 years of history, thanks for joining us  

[paxamericana]

51st when? 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah, most of us call that 150 years of history, thanks for joining us  

Finally, Canucks have started to become self aware and this 150 years of mental illness can come to an end. All that is needed is critical mass. 

Edited October 16, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

51st when? 

Finally, Canucks have started to become self aware and this 150 years of mental illness is can come to an end. All that is needed is critical mass. 

Well you should be able to help us out with the mass thing, your brain seems pretty dense   

 

[paxamericana]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well you should be able to help us out with the mass thing, your brain seems pretty dense   

 

You can't even refute the substance, you know damn well Canadians would be better off joining the US. North America is the envy of the world, you all for some weird reason like being non-american and so refused. I call it mental illness since you all can't seem to provide a justification for independence, you all rather suck on the British tits for what, they're a defunct empire. America is their replacement and the only global empire that will endure. You have no cultural or genealogical basis to even stand on. You're already American in every sense of the word. We can't tell each other apart and neither can the rest of the world!

Edited October 16, 2025 by paxamericana

[Nefarious Banana]

Ahhhhh . . . . the fake American.  How are you?  Weather good in Brampton?  Be well !

[blackbird]

9 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I call it mental illness since you all can't seem to provide a justification for independence, you all rather suck on the British tits for what, they're a defunct empire. America is their replacement and the only global empire that will endure.

You still fighting the revolutionary war from 250 years ago?  The U.S. already became independent and formed the republic long ago.  So why carry on here like a little child screaming for another country to join you?  You do your thing; we do our thing.   Respect other's choice made hundreds of years ago.

[blackbird]

14 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

You're already American in every sense of the word.

You're dreaming.   Canadians do not see themselves as Americans at all.  We are totally sovereign.

Even if some province or provinces separated from the Confederation called Canada, they would remain independent and be Constitutional Monarchies with the King as head of state.  We do not have any desire to be part of the American Republic.  That is not an option.  

America is a melting pot system.   Canadians do not believe in that system and want nothing to do with it.

Canadians lean more to the belief in the rights of individuals, not rule by a dictatorial leader implemented with masked men arresting whoever without warrant or justification.  

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

You can't even refute the substance,

Dude the substance was dog poop 

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

you know damn well Canadians would be better off joining the US

IT would be the worst thing they can do.  THe US is already a dumpster fire and it's best days are behind it. 

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

you all for some weird reason like being non-american and so refused

It's called independence. Don't make us burn down your white house again. 

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

you all rather suck on the British tits

In what way?  Britain really hasn't had anything to do with canada or it's governance in about 100 years.  

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

America is their replacement and the only global empire that will endure.

America is already failing. You can see the signs the same way you can see the signs of the fall of the roman empire overtime. Every empire dies in the end and it's clear that the US has passed the halfway point

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

We can't tell each other apart and neither can the rest of the world!

We can. And we're fine with that

[paxamericana]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

We can.

Uh no, go to Seattle, then go to Vancouver and tell me you can tell the difference. Pick any other city along our border and tell me there’s not an American equivalent on the other side. 

[paxamericana]

9 hours ago, blackbird said:

Canadians lean more to the belief in the rights of individuals, not rule by a dictatorial leader implemented with masked men arresting whoever without warrant or justification.  

Don’t get too excited, what ever happens south of the border eventually makes it way north. 

 

9 hours ago, blackbird said:

Canadians do not see themselves as Americans at all.  We are totally sovereign.

For what reason? Why is Canada even a country in the first place? You have no distinct culture or even military that can hold up to that word. 

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Uh no, go to Seattle, then go to Vancouver and tell me you can tell the difference.

LOL i have been to both regularly all my life and the difference is immediate and obvious   

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Pick any other city along our border and tell me there’s not an American equivalent on the other side. 

they are ALL different.  My god man, have you never even been to a us city before?  It wouldn't be that hard for someone to blend in, they're not THAT different, but they are VERY different to anyone who's lived in and visited both. 

And they always have been.  they are not the same. 

[taxme]

On 10/15/2025 at 4:47 PM, blackbird said:

We can see how Confederation (Canada as one country) is a losing proposition for western provinces.

Alberta's energy industry gets hammered.

No more pipeline laws.

Tanker ban on the BC north coast.

Now the agriculture industry on the prairies is being destroyed because Ottawa put 100% tariffs on EVs from China to protect the auto industry down in Ontario.

Yet western Canada has been paying billions of dollars to Quebec in equalization payments.

So what is the benefit of western Canada being in Confederation?  It all seems to be a losing deal for the west.   All take by central Canada and no give.

I am still amazed as to how Alberta is still hanging around and still living in this gawd forsaken Marxist country when Ottawa has already stolen over the many decades hundreds of billions of Albertan's tax dollars. Alberta should have separated a long long time ago. How much more is Alberta going to take before they finally decide to get the hell out of and away from the eastern french communist elite from Quebec. 

Quebec has never contributed in helping to make Canada great. On the contrary, Quebec has been trying to destroy Alberta for several decades now and take all their money to boot. Enough already Alberta. Things will never get better for you as long as you allow those eastern Marxist globalist french elite batards to continue to give you the finger and keep sticking their french bullshit up your ass. 

Go, Alberta, go. Take western Canada with you. Works well for me. 😇

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

I am still amazed as to how Alberta is still hanging around and still living in this gawd forsaken Marxist country when Ottawa has already stolen over the many decades hundreds of billions of Albertan's tax dollars. Alberta should have separated a long long time ago. How much more is Alberta going to take before they finally decide to get the hell out of and away from the eastern french communist elite from Quebec. 

Quebec has never contributed in helping to make Canada great. On the contrary, Quebec has been trying to destroy Alberta for several decades now and take all their money to boot. Enough already Alberta. Things will never get better for you as long as you allow those eastern Marxist globalist french elite batards to continue to give you the finger and keep sticking their french bullshit up your ass. 

Go, Alberta, go. Take western Canada with you. Works well for me. 😇

Plastic point of view it would be impossible for Alberta to go alone. They just don't have the economic diversity or the population for their size.

In fact to be reasonably successful it would require british Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan at the very least to break away and form their own country. And adding Manitoba would be necessary to guarantee success.

Anyway on its own would likely not be able to make it economically and they're in a better position. Alberta's landlocked and has one industry

[August1991]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

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In fact to be reasonably successful it would require british Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan at the very least to break away and form their own country. And adding Manitoba would be necessary to guarantee success.

Anyway on its own would likely not be able to make it economically and they're in a better position. Alberta's landlocked and has one industry

Northern BC.

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This may become an issue in the next Quebec election.

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Northern BC.

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This may become an issue in the next Quebec election.

That made no sense. Please use your words

[taxme]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Plastic point of view it would be impossible for Alberta to go alone. They just don't have the economic diversity or the population for their size.

In fact to be reasonably successful it would require british Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan at the very least to break away and form their own country. And adding Manitoba would be necessary to guarantee success.

Anyway on its own would likely not be able to make it economically and they're in a better position. Alberta's landlocked and has one industry

With all of this native Indian nonsense going on in Canada, i have to wonder as to how a 1% minority can pretty much dictate and control how Canada will go forward when these Indians were not even elected to run Canada. This country is so phkd up. It needs to cease to exist. 

Alberta can go it alone because they have the money and the resources to do so. Many southern states have less population in Canada and they seem to be doing okay. Albertan's can become a bunch of wealthy people if they decided to break away from Canada. Why send tens of billions of tax dollars to a corrupt Marxist Ottawa when that money could stay in Alberta. They have one industry and it is making hundreds of billions of dollars for Alberta. 

A separate Alberta would mean no more bilingualism, multiculturalism/ diversity, control their own immigration like separatist Quebec is allowed to do. Alberta can end massive 3rd world immigration invasion and cut foreign aid. All those Marxist programs and agendas could save Albertan's tens of billions of their tax dollars which can then stay in Alberta. 

Alberta could even become a protectorate of the USA with no tariffs and be able to use American money. That would be a bonus for Alberta. Canukistan will soon become bankrupt and then Alberta will be in the same sinking boat with the rest of this dumb ass country if they stay in Chanukistan. I think that Saskatchewan would soon follow Alberta. BC would then have to leave Chanukistan.

Canada should be one of the most wealthiest countries in the world, but instead, we are way too woke and pretty much broke. We should all be filthy rich, but instead, Canadians are going deeper and deeper in debt and going bankrupt. 

Imagine what Canada is going to look like with Carnage the destroyer of Canada still running this country for 4 more years. With all of the anti-freedom of speech laws and censorship laws being implemented, we may not even have a website like this at all. All just my opinion of course.