robosmith Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 Quote Collin McLelland @FracSlap writes: I was on the biggest solar farm in Canada with 1.5 million panels. The most interesting thing I saw was the solar panels have increased the yield of the grass by protecting it from the sun and wind. I've become friends with the farmer who is fifth generation and he has built up a herd of 2,000 sheep to graze it. The panels have provided a ton of value to his family's land. Quote
herbie Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 No! No! No! Don't you know the dogma is that solar only HURTS productive land? That they're ONLY building them on farmland? 1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Good thing a sheep herder got some benefit. At least there's that... Edited October 13, 2025 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Good thing a sheep herder got some benefit. At least there's that... Yup $700 million to help the grass. Wonder what the nighttime or snow days benefits are. 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 13, 2025 Author Report Posted October 13, 2025 24 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Good thing a sheep herder got some benefit. At least there's that... ^FOOL believes there's no power benefit from 1.5 MILLION solar panels. Can you multiply 1.5M x 300 Watts? Or figure out how many homes can be powered by 450 MEGA WATTS? You probably don't even know that an $8000 battery charged by solar can power your home for 24 hours or more. Because YOU'RE IGNORAMUS GIRL! 18 minutes ago, Legato said: Yup $700 million to help the grass. Wonder what the nighttime or snow days benefits are. And power 100s of homes, CLOWN 1 Quote
Legato Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 1 minute ago, robosmith said: And power 100s of homes, CLOWN When its dark or snowing? Quote
robosmith Posted October 13, 2025 Author Report Posted October 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, Legato said: When its dark or snowing? There's this thing called a battery which I already mentioned. Do you not understand how they work? LMAO Quote
Legato Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 11 minutes ago, robosmith said: There's this thing called a battery which I already mentioned. Do you not understand how they work? LMAO Where are all these batteries you talk of, are the sheep stealing them? 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 13, 2025 Author Report Posted October 13, 2025 Just now, Legato said: Where are all these batteries you talk of, are the sheep stealing them? Thanks for revealing your IGNORANCE. If you don't have a connection to the grid for night time, you can buy a battery for ~$8K and that will keep your power on overnight. Most localities here require a connection to the grid whether you use it or not. Quote
Legato Posted October 13, 2025 Report Posted October 13, 2025 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: Thanks for revealing your IGNORANCE. If you don't have a connection to the grid for night time, you can buy a battery for ~$8K and that will keep your power on overnight. Most localities here require a connection to the grid whether you use it or not. So are these batteries carbon neutral? Quote
robosmith Posted October 13, 2025 Author Report Posted October 13, 2025 12 minutes ago, Legato said: So are these batteries carbon neutral? Some are, some release carbon during manufacture like most everything that is manufactured. But they last for 10 years carbon free. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Thanks for revealing your IGNORANCE. If you don't have a connection to the grid for night time, you can buy a battery for ~$8K and that will keep your power on overnight. Most localities here require a connection to the grid whether you use it or not. absolutely bullshit. Our battery tech is pretty much useless at this point. An 8k battery is not going to keep you powered for long at all in the winter in Canada. That is the problem If the day comes when we can store power as efficiently as we store gasoline then sure. But right now you can't, and that's where twats like you always fall down Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
paxamericana Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 (edited) Canada is not an ideal location for cherry picking Robo. Says so the facts. The North Eastern and North Western United states are also not great places to install solar. Too many cloudy days and long winters. That's like growing rice in the dessert. Yes it's possible, but prohibitively expensive. Edited October 14, 2025 by paxamericana 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: Canada is not an ideal location for cherry picking Robo. Says so the facts. The North Eastern and North Western United states are also not great places to install solar. Too many cloudy days and long winters. That's like growing rice in the dessert. Yes it's possible, but prohibitively expensive. As alberta found out the hard way our last bad winter. In BC is useful to a degree because it lets us save water all summer for our hydroelectric generation which then provides power all winter with the water that we saved up (simple version but you get the idea). But solar will never be anything but a supplement to dedicated power generation systems until we find a way to efficiently store energy. Current 'batteries' are insanely expensive for the storage capacity, outrageously heavy and the capacity is tiny for their size. But someday Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 Robo, you're talking to guys who still think it's 1953. Or failed Grade 9 Electricity class. Any excuse, any excuse at all to diss alternate energy no matter how ignorant it makes you look. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 49 minutes ago, herbie said: Robo, you're talking to guys who still think it's 1953. Or failed Grade 9 Electricity class. Any excuse, any excuse at all to diss alternate energy no matter how ignorant it makes you look. Awww little guy, can't actually address the points so you're going to cry to robo? It makes sense that you're turn to your intellectual equal And if anyone thinks it's 1953 it would be you, you sound exactly like a copy of popular mechanics predicting what the amazing future will be like Until we get storage that's cheap and efficient solar is at best a secondary suppliment Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 12 hours ago, robosmith said: ^FOOL believes there's no power benefit from 1.5 MILLION solar panels. Can you multiply 1.5M x 300 Watts? Or figure out how many homes can be powered by 450 MEGA WATTS? You probably don't even know that an $8000 battery charged by solar can power your home for 24 hours or more. Because YOU'RE IGNORAMUS GIRL! And power 100s of homes, CLOWN Can you read? Read your electricity bill. AI, population growth, aging infrastructure and of course, this Tweenkie-ass war on fossil fuels and nuclear. So what do the fembots do? They herald the creation of $700 billion in fcking mirrors and batteries. https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/the-grid/rising-bills-bad-blame-whats-really-driving-electricity-prices/ That's right, you destructive little pee-on, coal generation in Michigan is PROFITABLE and keeping folks warm and powered. So you and @herbie need to shut up and go fck yourselves! You dumb little sh1ts cheered on while Brandon imported millions of Gawd-Damn leaches and shat all over the fossil fuel and nuclear energy sources that have served the CITIZENS so well. You are enemies of humanity and frankly... Traitors to your nations. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
paxamericana Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, herbie said: Or failed Grade 9 Electricity class. It’s actually not electricity. You’re in the wrong subject. Solar radiation in solar panel is purely about wave length absorption, there is different physics involved with irradiance, the angle in which light shines. It’s strongest at 90 degrees along the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn , varies by season due to earth’s tilted axis. Outside of those zones, the absorption of solar radiations becomes weaker. Edited October 14, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 (edited) If only companies like Capital Power, Northland, Enbridge, TC Energy, etc, etc had first consulted with the dunces here they would have saved tens of billions of dollars in these renewable energy investments... You would think with the talent involved in these decisions and amounts of monies invested the due diligence done would have been much better. Why they didn't think of location, the fact that it gets dark at night, and precipitation called snow is beyond me... Edited October 14, 2025 by LinkSoul60 1 2 Quote
paxamericana Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 (edited) 39 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: due diligence done would have been much better This is the the type of attitude man kind should have. The problem with green tech and how it became politicised is because green tech only makes sense by geographic local. It doesn't make any monetary sense to install solar in the middle of no where away from population centers and least of all in places where the sun doesn't shine that bright. Green tech projects makes sense when the money is made of monopoly money at a artificially low financing rate and the highly politicised DEI initiative of Blackrock and Vangaurd whose firm own half of the planet. DEI says you can throw out traditional fiduciary responsibility by avoiding the money math problem. That's the indirect subsidisation. The entire green agenda have been built on lies crammed down the public throat. The carbon required to produce green tech will NEVER be made back for the life of the project compared to traditional natural gas and clean burning coal plants. It's actually less polluting to not use renewable. Edited October 14, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
Legato Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 25 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: If only companies like Capital Power, Northland, Enbridge, TC Energy, etc, etc had first consulted with the dunces here they would have saved tens of billions of dollars in these renewable energy investments... You would think with the talent involved in these decisions and amounts of monies invested the due diligence done would have been much better. Why they didn't think of location, the fact that it gets dark at night, and precipitation called snow is beyond me... Incomplete assessment, you forgot the obvious.......... Available data shows significant investment, with the U.S. solar industry potentially receiving around $900 billion in federal tax incentives through 2060, and global renewable power generation subsidies reaching an estimated $128 billion in 2017. In Canada, there has been significant funding for clean technology and renewable energy research and development, with one report estimating that fossil fuel subsidies from 2019-2021 could have funded all major wind and solar projects in Canada twelve times over. Quote
Hodad Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 I just finished a solar installation at my home. The payback is just under 5 years at current rates--and the rates continue to climb. Great for the environment and for my finances. 1 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: It’s actually not electricity. You’re in the wrong subject. Solar radiation in solar panel is purely about wave length absorption, there is different physics involved with irradiance, the angle in which light shines. It’s strongest at 90 degrees along the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn , varies by season due to earth’s tilted axis. Outside of those zones, the absorption of solar radiations becomes weaker. You're new here so you don't know but every single time we do that to Herbie we get a note from his mother who's mad about the fact that she's the one that has to clean up the mess after his head pops. If you're going to post equations it has to be limited to addition and subtraction only and only one line. Try and remember that he has to take his mittens off if he's got to count higher than four. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: If only companies like Capital Power, Northland, Enbridge, TC Energy, etc, etc had first consulted with the dunces here they would have saved tens of billions of dollars in these renewable energy investments... You would think with the talent involved in these decisions and amounts of monies invested the due diligence done would have been much better. Why they didn't think of location, the fact that it gets dark at night, and precipitation called snow is beyond me... You mean embridge the oil company? the company that's building new pipelines in the states and looking at expanding it's oil holdings and production around the world? The embridge that makes the vast vast majority of it's money from oil and gas? that embridge? yea, clearly they believe renewables are the way to go Excluding Hydro Renewables can only be a supplement to real power generation at best. At least with our current technology. Enbridge and the others know that. Was nothing wrong with supplementing your energy production, that's a good thing. But unlike you they're not so diluted as to believe that it's a replacement Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 15 hours ago, paxamericana said: Canada is not an ideal location for cherry picking Robo. Says so the facts. The North Eastern and North Western United states are also not great places to install solar. Too many cloudy days and long winters. That's like growing rice in the dessert. Yes it's possible, but prohibitively expensive. ^This BULLSHIT is why I posted the story about 1.5 MILLION panels in Canada. Duh Somebody invested a lot of money to PROVE YOU WRONG. Quote
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