Trump: "It's an honor to have the prime minister of Canada, Mark Carney, who I have made very popular. He's an extremely popular prime minister and I'm very honored to do it because I like him."

[Chrissy1979]

18 minutes ago, Legato said:

That would be a portrayal, impersonation, personification etc.

Caricature is it not.

“Caricature is it not.”
We don’t phrase sentences in English like that. You might have tried “Caricature, is it not?” Or “It is not a caricature.” 

Glad to help you guys out. It’s a tough language. You’ll never convince anyone you speak it properly by denying words mean what they mean though. lol

[Legato]

32 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

“Caricature is it not.”
We don’t phrase sentences in English like that. You might have tried “Caricature, is it not?” Or “It is not a caricature.” 

Glad to help you guys out. It’s a tough language. You’ll never convince anyone you speak it properly by denying words mean what they mean though. lol

 a poor attempt to shift goalposts is it not? 

[Chrissy1979]

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

 a poor attempt to shift goalposts is it not? 

Not at all. Your illiteracy only adds to my point, which is that you guys are too stupid to even understand a basic dictionary definition in front of your face.

Nothing will top you guys trying to pretend a tariff isn’t a tax though. That was gold. 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Not at all. Your illiteracy only adds to my point, which is that you guys are too stupid to even understand a basic dictionary definition in front of your face.

Nothing will top you guys trying to pretend a tariff isn’t a tax though. That was gold. 

The title of the dictionary your using must be "The Lord of the Rings" as all your definitions originate from middle earth.

That's where Sauron created a caricature of a Tax and called it Tariff.

[Chrissy1979]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

The title of the dictionary your using must be "The Lord of the Rings" as all your definitions originate from middle earth.

That's where Sauron created a caricature of a Tax and called it Tariff.

I cited it. Try to find one that doesn’t include that definition. You won’t.

You guys really pick the stupidest things to obsess about. Take it up with your ESL teacher.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

 

Precisely. You’re a gross distortion of a conservative.

Which would mean i wasn't a real conservative. 

So when you claimed he was a gross distortion of a person that means he's not a person   LOLOL

I think you're slowly realizing why you were wrong and sound stupid  

[Chrissy1979]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Which would mean i wasn't a real conservative. 

So when you claimed he was a gross distortion of a person that means he's not a person   LOLOL

I think you're slowly realizing why you were wrong and sound stupid  

 Only two emojis! You must be getting over your embarrassment. Can you tell me how a tariff isn’t really a tax again, grandpa?.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

 Only two emojis! You must be getting over your embarrassment. Can you tell me how a tariff isn’t really a tax again, grandpa?.

Already proved that in that context I was right and you were wrong. Just as we proved again in this context you used the word  caricature Wrong. And I pointed out several other words you use incorrectly.

It's not that I don't think English is your first language. I just think you're horribly educated and not very smart. And when you try to sound smart you wind up looking like.... well.... like you do here  A twat.

[Chrissy1979]

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Already proved that in that context I was right and you were wrong. Just as we proved again in this context you used the word  caricature Wrong. And I pointed out several other words you use incorrectly.

It's not that I don't think English is your first language. I just think you're horribly educated and not very smart. And when you try to sound smart you wind up looking like.... well.... like you do here  A twat.

I want the one about how tariffs aren’t taxes. Tell the one about how you found a dictionary definition that defined a tariff as a levy, subsequently exploded with smug emojis in delight that this proved it’s not a tax, and then nearly killed yourself when you found out the same dictionary defined levy as a tax.

[Venandi]

19 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I want the one about how tariffs aren’t taxes.

Here ya go:

Understanding the differences between tariffs and taxes helps clarify their roles in economic policy and the broader implications for trade and public finance.

Tariffs and taxes are both forms of revenue generation for governments, but they differ significantly in their purpose and application.

Tariffs are specific fees imposed on imported or exported goods to regulate trade and make foreign products more expensive, while taxes are broader financial charges on individuals and businesses to fund government activities.

Essentially, tariffs target international trade, whereas taxes apply to various transactions and income within a country.

 

Edited October 18, 2025 by Venandi

[Chrissy1979]

9 minutes ago, Venandi said:

How's this?

Understanding the differences between tariffs and taxes helps clarify their roles in economic policy and the broader implications for trade and public finance.

Tariffs and taxes are both forms of revenue generation for governments, but they differ significantly in their purpose and application.

Tariffs are specific fees imposed on imported or exported goods to regulate trade and make foreign products more expensive, while taxes are broader financial charges on individuals and businesses to fund government activities.

Essentially, tariffs target international trade, whereas taxes apply to various transactions and income within a country.

 

If you’re going to post AI slop, ask your AI machine what a tariff is and see if it doesn’t tell you it’s a tax on imported goods.

[Venandi]

24 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

If you’re going to post AI slop, ask your AI machine what a tariff is and see if it doesn’t tell you it’s a tax on imported goods.

There is a  difference whether you like it or not though and there are plenty of other examples... you may have earned your pension but your pension isn't earned income, investment income is a different critter too even though all of it goes into your pocket.

If you want to make the case that pension, investment and earned income are all the same (simply income without any other considerations attached), then the tax man will love you for it.

Apart from the financial implications, this is how sensible people communicate with each other without confusion. If strait line logic is your thing then because mice breathe air and people breathe air then mice should be considered people.

John Stienbeck (Of Mice and Men fame) might agree with you but I don't.

Edited October 19, 2025 by Venandi

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Can you tell me how a tariff isn’t really a tax again, grandpa?.

OK, In an effort to understand this I went back a couple of pages and now see that you're simply looking for argument and insult... I'll leave you to it.

Sorry I deflected your efforts, please carry on.

 

Edited October 19, 2025 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I want the one about how tariffs aren’t taxes. Tell the one about how you found a dictionary definition that defined a tariff as a levy, subsequently exploded with smug emojis in delight that this proved it’s not a tax, and then nearly killed yourself when you found out the same dictionary defined levy as a tax.

LOL  sounds like you're back to having weird fantasies that never happened  

As i proved at the time, the tarrif was a levy. Obviously you've been so emotionally upset by that that you're STILL having nightmares about it and fantasizing about it being different than it was 

That's pretty sad.  Like i said, i never really think about you   

LOLOLOL  well at least you've realized you were wrong about characteurs,  at least until next week when you'll insist that god appeared and said you were actually right all along and the voices in your head agreed with you     LOLOL

[BeaverFever]

On 10/7/2025 at 1:19 PM, CdnFox said:

 

For all you twats who think that it was PP who was trump's stooge.  Carney was trump's man since the beginning, and you all got played. 

 

 

Hilarious. Trump despised Trudeau and to you that was proof Trudeau was a failure with USA. Trump, LIKE EVERY LEADER respects Carney and somehow you think that makes him Trump’s stooge. Trump says nice things about most if not all leaders including Xi. of China. Does that mean Xi is Trump’s stooge?

 

Trump respects Carney because Carney is highly respectable.  He likes him personally because he is personally likeable. Nowhere dod Trump say Carney is his stooge or he agrees with Carney’s policies or that Carney is doing what Trump wants 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Hilarious.

Sure, but not in the way you mean. 

 

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Trump despised Trudeau and to you that was proof Trudeau was a failure with USA. Trump, LIKE EVERY LEADER respects Carney and somehow you think that makes him Trump’s stooge. Trump says nice things about most if not all leaders including Xi. of China. Does that mean Xi is Trump’s stooge?

Trump despised trudeau because trudeau didn't do what he was told. 

Trump does not respect carney.  Trump finds carney biddable. He 'respects' him in the way a person might respect a housetrained puppy. 

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Trump respects Carney because Carney is highly respectable.

Circular logic much?  Trump treats carney the way he used to treat 'Little rocket man".   Hell he didn't even invite him to israel, carney had to call and ask. 

 

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He likes him personally because he is personally likeable.

He likes how he bends over on command

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Nowhere dod Trump say Carney is his stooge or he agrees with Carney’s policies or that Carney is doing what Trump wants 

Sure he did.  He said he got him elected, he said he's easier to deal with than PP would be, etc etc. 

And he HAS done eveyrthin trump asks him to do. He dropped the counter tariffs, he forced ford to drop counter tariffs, he delivered on the border not just troops but new policy, he did what he was supposed to for NATO, he killed the dST tax moments after being told to by trump despite moments before having said he never would, and even now he says it's time to talk not time to fight when literally every other voice in Canada is saying it's probably time to fight.

The guy couldn't be more of a stooge for trump. As one british newspaper put it "Canadian leader transformed into 'shrieking teen at a Taylor Swift concert' to butter up Trump"

Canadian leader transformed into 'shrieking teen at a Taylor Swift concert' to butter up Trump | Daily Mail Online

 

The guy is delivering Canada to Trump like a good little boy

[BeaverFever]

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Trump despised trudeau because trudeau didn't do what he was told. 

What?  But before you were trying to say Trump prefers  Liberals to conservatives because the Liberals do what they’re told. Funny how you just reinvent the narrative. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Trump does not respect carney.  Trump finds carney biddable. He 'respects' him in the way a person might respect a housetrained puppy. 

Trump respects Carney and so does his senior cabinet. Carney has an impeccable international reputation with political and business leaders around the world. Trump is also easily charmed and Carney can allegedly be quite charming and funny when he wants to be. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure he did.  He said he got him elected, he said he's easier to deal with than PP would be, etc etc. 

He never said he’s easier to deal with than PP. There you go again with lies. And he acknowledged that Carney was elected as an Anti-Trump candidate as a backlash to Trump’s policies. Don’t pull your usual BS and try to say Trump endorsed Carney as a pro-Trump candidate and that’s why Canadians chose him. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 Hell he didn't even invite him to israel, carney had to call and ask. 

I can’t find any evidence of whether that’s true or not, if you have a link post it.
 

But you’ll recall when Carney recognized the state of Palestine Trump was very angry and threatened Canada so first of all there goes your theory about Carney being Trump’s obedient puppet and second of all that would explain why Trump wouldn’t proactively invite Canada (if your claim is even true)….not that Canada is a significant player in Israel-Palestine anyway. 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And he HAS done eveyrthin trump asks him to do.

No not everything. He recognized Palestine which made Trump mad, he’s kept the strategic sector counter-tariffs which Trump doesn’t like, he’s kept dairy supply management which Trump doesn’t like. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He dropped the counter tariffs

Not all of them, and you’ll notice that the latest economic data shows that doing so actually improved the Canadian economy and economic outlook   And I quote, from the right-wing financial post no less:

“The federal government’s removal of retaliatory tariffs on many U.S. goods will provide another lift to the economy. Desjardins estimates that GDP could be as much as 0.2 per cent higher due to lower inflation and lower interest rates. 

The central provinces, whose manufacturing industries are dependent on U.S. trade, will benefit most from this. Because construction was one of the sectors hit hardest by retaliatory tariffs, relief will be a boon to Ontario and British Columbia, where residential building is a big part of the economy.

The removal of the counter tariffs will also lighten inflation, leading Desjardins to cut its forecast for 2026 from 2.1 per cent to 1.7 per cent.  As these pressures ease, the economists expect the Bank of Canada to cut its interest rate in October and then once more before pausing.”

https://financialpost.com/news/outlook-canada-provinces-shifts-losers-might-surprise-you

 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

he forced ford to drop counter tariffs,

False. Ford did that on his own when he got an invite to the White House. He was probably bluffing to begin with, Ontario had already been investing billions in power generating capacity specifically to export more electricity to USA he’s not likely going to jeopardize the contracts he has with US states and utilities. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

he delivered on the border not just troops but new policy, he did what he was supposed

Most of the border changes were made as a Trudeau olive branch but needed anyway to curb new border threats created BY Trump, ie illegal immigration OUT of USA into Canada. And much of it was just symbolic gesture “border security theatre” as one prominent critic called it. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

he did what he was supposed to for NATO

Sort-of. USA wants us buying American not joining European defence production pacts. And if we’re going to decouple from USA and start treating them like a threat to our sovereignty we of course need our own capable military. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

he killed the dST tax moments after being told to by trump

No, not moments after. 

 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

and even now he says it's time to talk not time to fight when literally every other voice in Canada is saying it's probably time to fight.

No, not every voice. And it’s easy for people who aren’t at the table to play armchair quarterback. 
 

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The guy couldn't be more of a stooge for trump. As one british newspaper put it "Canadian leader transformed into 'shrieking teen at a Taylor Swift concert' to butter up Trump"

Canadian leader transformed into 'shrieking teen at a Taylor Swift concert' to butter up Trump | Daily Mail Online

The Daily Fail is a right-wing  tabloid filled with the kind of yellow journalism your type loves. But literally nobody in the sane world had that impression of that summit. 

Edited October 19, 2025 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

What?

 

Sorry, are you going deaf as well as dumb?  (BWAAAAHHAHAHAHA!!!   i kill me!) 

 

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 But before you were trying to say Trump prefers  Liberals to conservatives because the Liberals do what they’re told. Funny how you just reinvent the narrative. 

No, i said he likes carney because he does what he's told. 

 

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Trump respects Carney and so does his senior cabinet. 

Because he does what he's told. 

 

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He never said he’s easier to deal with than PP. T

He literally did. He said that during the election.  I'll make a liar out of you if you like and dig it up for you but i think a couple of quick web searches will save you the embarrassment

 

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I can’t find any evidence of whether that’s true or not, if you have a link post it.

Look more stuff you magically can't find🙄🙄

It resulted in the approval of the trip happening so fast that they couldn't even get a plane ready and the press had to be left behind. They were quite pissed

Journalists denounce lack of invitation for Carney's Egypt trip | National Post

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But you’ll recall when Carney recognized the state of Palestine Trump was very angry and threatened Canada 

And magically carney stop talking about it and says that they won't officially recognize Palestine until certain conditions are met.

And then trump also slapped us with more tariffs

 

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No not everything. He recognized Palestine which made Trump mad, he’s kept the strategic sector counter-tariffs which Trump doesn’t like, he’s kept dairy supply management which Trump doesn’t like. 

And he's walked that back. Now he's saying he will recognize them if they do a bunch of things that haven't happened yet
 

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Not all of them, and you’ll notice that the latest economic data shows that doing so actually improved the Canadian economy and economic outlook   And I quote, from the right-wing financial post no less:

But it didn't. Most economist still claim we're in a recession even if we missed one technically by a fifth of a point. In fact our economic outlook is dismal

 

 

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False. Ford did that on his own when he got an invite to the White House.

Nope. 

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No, not moments after. 

Moments.  Well techically minutes but whateves.  He said "Im doing it" trump said "no you're not" he said "no i'm not". 

No, not every voice. And it’s easy for people who aren’t at the table to play armchair quarterback. 
 

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The Daily Fail is a right-wing  tabloid

If the facts don't suit you then attack the source right?  Sorry but that's been echoed in MANY publications using a variety of language.  It is universally accepted that he's been GUSHING in his over the top praise of trump. 

 

Sorry kid. You failed on all counts. 

Carney is trump's man. Which is no surprise, when carney moved his business to the states he rented the offices there from Kushner.  HE arranged elon musk's loan to buy twitter.  He's been dealing with trump's family and friends for ages now. 

You've been played little boy.  Time to wake up and realize it. 

[Barquentine]

On 10/17/2025 at 6:11 PM, taxme said:

Kool-aid is for children like you.

OMG!! That's the wittiest thing anyone has ever said in the history of comebacks!!! Really! If there was a Nobel prize for comedy.... Keep up the good work. Our nation needs talent like yours!

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

OMG!! That's the wittiest thing anyone has ever said in the history of comebacks!!! Really! If there was a Nobel prize for comedy.... Keep up the good work. Our nation needs talent like yours!

Yeah, ok that was funny  

[taxme]

On 10/19/2025 at 5:43 AM, Barquentine said:

OMG!! That's the wittiest thing anyone has ever said in the history of comebacks!!! Really! If there was a Nobel prize for comedy.... Keep up the good work. Our nation needs talent like yours!

So, what flavor of Kool-aid do you really like? Probably something that will match closely to the color of crap that you like to spread here, right, comrade. LOL.