What The Liberals Did To Canada

[LinkSoul60]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The paperboy warned the Liberals, under Carney's economic advisory, that printing massive amounts of money would lead to inflation.  Carney said it wouldn't.

The paperboy did a whole video interview at the time of regular people - farmers, 9-5 workers, businesspeople, retail workers - who all said the same thing.

The "expert" economist with all the degrees was wrong and everybody else was right.

 

It's funny how you get these bits of info on X from your other simple minded friends, and next thing you know, it's gospel.

The paperboy is a nursery rhyme machine...  Enjoy him while he's still in politics.  The conservative party and Canada deserves better than him.

Maybe Carney just stumbled into all those positions...?

Edited April 20 by LinkSoul60

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I have some crayons and construction paper left over from when the grandbabies visited, if you need them.

I think you're gonna need them.

LOL  !!!!!!!    If you have any tissues might want to toss those in as well.  I'm afraid there's going to be some waterworks until he's had his cookie and his nap.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Lol... fûck are you stupid! 😂  

Just because i thought  showing you the facts would change your opinon?  Well maybe  

 

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Try listening again kid.

Sure, lets do it together.

"In 2015 you could buy a townhouse suitable for raising a family for 30 percent of the average household income"

Hmmmm...  Sounds like YOU"RE the one with the hearing problem  

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The paperboy is still trying to figure out what forward guidance is and how it's all Trudeau's fault...  

Ohohhh you mean that thing carney says he invented and completely didn't!   Yeah well everyone but you has figured out carney is a liar:) 

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Prove it wrong....

 

Ok. 

"In 2015 you could buy a townhouse suitable for raising a family for 30 percent of the average household income"

Didn't take much did it  

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Just because i thought  showing you the facts would change your opinon?  Well maybe  

 

Sure, lets do it together.

"In 2015 you could buy a townhouse suitable for raising a family for 30 percent of the average household income"

Hmmmm...  Sounds like YOU"RE the one with the hearing problem  

Ohohhh you mean that thing carney says he invented and completely didn't!   Yeah well everyone but you has figured out carney is a liar:) 

Ok. 

"In 2015 you could buy a townhouse suitable for raising a family for 30 percent of the average household income"

Didn't take much did it  

Says the guy who probably still lives in his parents basement...  

Again, if you choose not to accept facts, that's your choice.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Says the guy who probably still lives in his parents basement... 

 

LOL all you come up with is childish insults like that and you think you're going to convince anyone that someone OTHER than you lives in their mommie's basement? LOLOL

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Again, if you choose not to accept facts, that's your choice.

 

The fact is that the average person earning the average household income could afford a home big enough to raise a family in metro vancouver in 2015 even by the end. 

I didn't check on egypt,  but you must have some idea of pricing there seeing as you insist on living in de nial.    

[LinkSoul60]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL all you come up with is childish insults like that and you think you're going to convince anyone that someone OTHER than you lives in their mommie's basement? LOLOL

The fact is that the average person earning the average household income could afford a home big enough to raise a family in metro vancouver in 2015 even by the end. 

I didn't check on egypt,  but you must have some idea of pricing there seeing as you insist on living in de nial.    

It's not an insult. I'm betting you still do. You certainly weren't in the market in metro Vancouver in 2015 if you don't know what happened with housing in the early 2010's. Our federal government at the time prioritized trade and investment with China and the amount of their capital that came into Vancouver and the region buying homes that drove up prices significantly and created a ripple effect on pricing that made it highly unaffordable for many.  

A simple google search will help you.... 'was metro Vancouver housing unaffordable in 2015', 'was the cost of housing in Metro Vancouver unaffordable in 2015', are any variation of wording you'd like.  

And so much for your facts, again....  In 2015, the median household income in Metro Vancouver was approximately $72,662. This income was largely insufficient to afford the average home with high-income households (earning over $100k) making up the largest segment, yet home prices rose significantly faster than wages. Rental affordability was also poor, with over three-quarters of households spending more than 30% of income on rent.

Interested to hear how you'll spin that in 2015 was the second-least affordable city in the world behind Hong Kong, yet really affordable for the average family.... 

Your serve 🤡

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's not an insult. I'm betting you still do.

LOL then you are absolutely dumber than a stump kid    Which just makes you look cringy and desperate. 

The market? Kid, i was in the real estate industry     And yep i owned my house. And some family members bought right around that time too. 

And i gave you the figures.  They're very simple.  Prices had gone up, (interest went down to offset it) but it was still affordable. Two adults could buy a home suitable for raising children at about 30 percent of their pre tax income, which is the definition of affordable 

Saawweeeee..... 

I've already posted several Google searches for you. I'm sure you're scrambling as hard as you can to try some species of wording that makes you look like less of a complete twat but at the end of the day as I have already proven in 2015 you could buy any townhouse suitable for raising a family for between 300 and 400 which is 30% of the average household income

Now you just look like a completely desperate twat.  The facts are the facts kid, at a price of about 300 - 400 for a townhouse in greater vancouver you could live affordably.  Now if you want to spend 400 thousand on land they'll ask if you'd like them to wrap that up for you  

 

And i just have to say your complete mental breakdown trying to cope with this simple fact is absolutely delightful  

 

Edited April 21 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's not an insult. I'm betting you still do. You certainly weren't in the market in metro Vancouver in 2015 if you don't know what happened with housing in the early 2010's. Our federal government at the time prioritized trade and investment with China and the amount of their capital that came into Vancouver and the region buying homes that drove up prices significantly and created a ripple effect on pricing that made it highly unaffordable for many.  

A simple google search will help you.... 'was metro Vancouver housing unaffordable in 2015', 'was the cost of housing in Metro Vancouver unaffordable in 2015', are any variation of wording you'd like.  

And so much for your facts, again....  In 2015, the median household income in Metro Vancouver was approximately $72,662. This income was largely insufficient to afford the average home with high-income households (earning over $100k) making up the largest segment, yet home prices rose significantly faster than wages. Rental affordability was also poor, with over three-quarters of households spending more than 30% of income on rent.

 

Interested to hear how you'll spin that in 2015 was the second-least affordable city in the world behind Hong Kong, yet really affordable for the average family.... 

Your serve 🤡

Oh and btw if we use your math, a couple with an average income would be able to afford a 1900 dollar mortgage and a 500 k town home which was on the higher side in the GVRD (many areas with less than that especially in the valley) would be about 100 dollars a month more than that. Tight ,but still very very affordable.  

 I mean that's TWICE now your own figures have show you to be wrong. 

IN desperaton you keep trying to include mansions in kerrisdale in your figures but that's not about 'affordable'  Luxury detached homes aren't necessary to be 'affordable'

IN many parts of the lower mainland prices were considerably lower, with surrey for example and most of the valley being closer to just over 300 k. 

You're just wrong here kid. It was getting less affordable and in fact justin ran in 2015 promising to address that and make it MORE affordable (BWAAAAHHAHAHA)_ but you could still live in greater vancouver in 2015 affordably and raise a kid. 

We didn't even mention 2 or 3 bedroom apartments. Or rents.  You could rent a 3 br apartment for 1500 bucks. Well within the average household income. So even renting was still affordable. 

 

[LinkSoul60]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL then you are absolutely dumber than a stump kid    Which just makes you look cringy and desperate. 

The market? Kid, i was in the real estate industry     And yep i owned my house. And some family members bought right around that time too. 

And i gave you the figures.  They're very simple.  Prices had gone up, (interest went down to offset it) but it was still affordable. Two adults could buy a home suitable for raising children at about 30 percent of their pre tax income, which is the definition of affordable 

Saawweeeee..... 

I've already posted several Google searches for you. I'm sure you're scrambling as hard as you can to try some species of wording that makes you look like less of a complete twat but at the end of the day as I have already proven in 2015 you could buy any townhouse suitable for raising a family for between 300 and 400 which is 30% of the average household income

Now you just look like a completely desperate twat.  The facts are the facts kid, at a price of about 300 - 400 for a townhouse in greater vancouver you could live affordably.  Now if you want to spend 400 thousand on land they'll ask if you'd like them to wrap that up for you  

 

And i just have to say your complete mental breakdown trying to cope with this simple fact is absolutely delightful  

 

Lol... sure you were.  I'm desperate and having a mental breakdown because you ignore facts.  When all else fails, go with that kiddo.

[LinkSoul60]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh and btw if we use your math, a couple with an average income would be able to afford a 1900 dollar mortgage and a 500 k town home which was on the higher side in the GVRD (many areas with less than that especially in the valley) would be about 100 dollars a month more than that. Tight ,but still very very affordable.  

 I mean that's TWICE now your own figures have show you to be wrong. 

IN desperaton you keep trying to include mansions in kerrisdale in your figures but that's not about 'affordable'  Luxury detached homes aren't necessary to be 'affordable'

IN many parts of the lower mainland prices were considerably lower, with surrey for example and most of the valley being closer to just over 300 k. 

You're just wrong here kid. It was getting less affordable and in fact justin ran in 2015 promising to address that and make it MORE affordable (BWAAAAHHAHAHA)_ but you could still live in greater vancouver in 2015 affordably and raise a kid. 

We didn't even mention 2 or 3 bedroom apartments. Or rents.  You could rent a 3 br apartment for 1500 bucks. Well within the average household income. So even renting was still affordable. 

 

One of the world's least affordable cities in the early 2010's was affordable. Makes sense...  Let's go with that... 😂

[Legato]

17 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

He's sure as hell a better option than the lifelong politician paperboy who is the butt end of US jokes...

 

 

Mark Carney has been wrong about every major economic question of our time.

 He predicted covid would cause deflation.
 He supported carbon taxes until he didn't and then shifted them to the hidden world so still supported.
 His Net-Zero Alliance is now bankrupt and shut down.
 He wrote we should keep 50% of our oil in the ground.
 He opposed the Northern Gateway Pipeline.

He is an expert at making exactly the wrong call every single time.

The Brits are still recovering from his "forward guidance".

Your unreliable boyfriend is just a hollow "man".

 

[Goddess]

17 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's funny how you get these bits of info on X from your other simple minded friends, and next thing you know, it's gospel.

The people and groups I follow on X are the direct links to the information and industries.  I find it very ironic that you only listen to CBC news, which sooooo much has come out about their lack of honest coverage, and then you accuse others of fake information.

Also you pay zero attention to what is happening in committee meetings and that's where the real work of government is.

For instance, in the recent Standing Committee on Industry & Technology, - which I watched on the government's own YouTube channel for committees, the head of metallurgical manufacturing in Canada said that it's obvious the Liberal government is not negotiating with the US on their behalf and they are going to send their own delegation to Washington to do what needs to be done.

You won't see that on CBC.  But that is a significant statement from an entire industry in Canada.

I also watched quite a lot of the committees on Housing and the one on Immigration (the one after the scathing Auditor General's report.)

Had you watched the committee on Housing, you wouldn't be here arguing with Fox about how affordable housing is in Canada.  Instead, you get your talking points from CBC, who are paid to tell you that everything is great and the Liberals are doing a fabulous job.  That same committee talked extensively about how the government failures on housing and immigration has affected young people.  And it wasn't blamed on social media use, FYI.

So your constant jabs at me about X and YouTube don't affect me.  You can't shame me on this.  You try every day to shame me into becoming just as stoopid as you are and you can't.  You simply can't.

It's YOU who should be ashamed.  You are willfully ignorant and deliberately misinformed.

You don't get to outright reject videos of WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN GOVERNMENT just because they aren't on your preferred social media medium.

And you're a complete id10t is you still believe you're getting anything close to the truth of what's going on in Canada by watching CBC and parroting their narrative.

 

[Goddess]

Carney's budget update won't reflect national financial pain | Financial Post

 

“There’s a scene in the 1988 comedy The Naked Gun where Leslie Nielsen’s Lt. Frank Drebin waves his arms in front of a fireworks factory that has just exploded and calmly tells the horrified crowd, ‘Nothing to see here, please disperse.’”

“I’ve often thought about that scene as I’ve watched Mark Carney’s government handle the federal budget process. Behind Drebin, chaos; in front of him, reassurances. The gap between the two is the joke.” That gap is becoming harder to ignore.

During the Liberal Party’s coronation of Carney as leader, he promised to split the federal budget into operating and capital accounts - “a deceptive practice with a long history of failure.” As expected, the definition of capital became “ridiculously broad,” allowing routine spending to be reclassified to make the operating budget look great!

The Parliamentary Budget Officer noticed, calling it “overly expansive” and estimating capital spending was overstated by “roughly 30 per cent — or $94 billion.” Under a more realistic approach, “the ‘day-to-day operating balance’ would remain in deficit every year through 2029-30.” And the fiscal anchor? “The PBO also pegged the probability that Carney’s deficit-to-gross-domestic-product anchor held at just 7.5 per cent. That isn’t a fiscal anchor; it’s a fiscal wish.”

At the same time, the government reshaped the budget process — “moving the budget cycle from the spring to the fall…without a parliamentary study and debate.” That matters because “a fall budget forecast is likely to be less reliable.” Even the timing raises questions. “It’s worth noting that April 28 is two days before the personal tax filing deadline…You could not design worse timing.”

Then comes the messaging support. When these changes were introduced, “this was accompanied by [two] tidy International Monetary Fund (IMF) comments crowing about the so-called positives…” That pattern continued, with recent IMF comments describing Canada as “the cleanest dirty shirt.”

“Three quotes of IMF praise in six months.”

And with a spring update on April 28? “I’m expecting a fourth one on April 29. The fireworks should be great.”

All while the message remains: “building the strongest economy in the G7.” But the data tells a different story.

“Canada saw a net capital outflow of more than $1 trillion — the largest capital exodus in Canadian history.” “For every dollar in, two dollars left.” Which brings us back to Drebin. “Operating and capital split? Nothing to see here. Budget cycle adjusted without parliamentary study? Please disperse.” “A fiscal anchor with a 7.5 per cent probability of holding? Move along.”

“The government is waving its arms and telling Canadians not to look.”

And in the end: “The difference between The Naked Gun and Carney’s fiscal strategy is that one of them is knowingly funny.”

[LinkSoul60]

33 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

Mark Carney has been wrong about every major economic question of our time.

 He predicted covid would cause deflation.
 He supported carbon taxes until he didn't and then shifted them to the hidden world so still supported.
 His Net-Zero Alliance is now bankrupt and shut down.
 He wrote we should keep 50% of our oil in the ground.
 He opposed the Northern Gateway Pipeline.

He is an expert at making exactly the wrong call every single time.

The Brits are still recovering from his "forward guidance".

Your unreliable boyfriend is just a hollow "man".

 

Lol... that's mini-Poilievre speak.  I suppose he was just a DEI hire who has just skated through the positions he's held...

Yes, him and many other economists were wrong about covid and deflation.

There is nothing hidden about the industrial carbon tax.  

Net-zero bankruptcy is not accurate.  A lot of pressure from US lawmakers who threatened lawsuit against firms boycotting fossil fuel companies so investors do what they always do.... protect capital.  The alliance was dissolved, it did not 'go bankrupt' in a financial sense.

Keeping the oil in the ground still has a lot of merit, but things change.  

Again, things change and why he is now working with Alberta on a pipeline project.

Regarding Brexit... Carney had nothing to do with government policy of trade and the frictions in Europe around Brexit, labour shortages with lesser free movement of workers from EU countries, lower foreign investment, or political leadership changes with Johnson and Truss.

I get your head is up Poilievres âss and you're bias against anything left, but reading both sides of a story usually helps form more accurate opinions.  Try it some time.

 

 

 

[Goddess]

24 minutes ago, Goddess said:

For instance, in the recent Standing Committee on Industry & Technology, - which I watched on the government's own YouTube channel for committees, the head of metallurgical manufacturing in Canada said that it's obvious the Liberal government is not negotiating with the US on their behalf and they are going to send their own delegation to Washington to do what needs to be done.

In that Committee meeting the head of the Tool & Die industry in Canada estimates that they have about 3-6 months left and then the industry will die in Canada.  And industries do not come back.

Meanwhile, Carney is jetting off all over the world signing pinkie promises for crumb deals that specifically state there is no obligation on either side to fulfill anything.  For gawd's sake - READ THEM.

Sorrynotsorry, but this guy needs to get to work.  NOW.

Industry needs timelines.  They need assurances.

And almost every industry in Canada right now has said Carney is not giving that to them because he refuses to talk with the US.  And they've all said, they cannot hang on much longer.

Every other country has figured out a way to deal with Trump.  Carney campaigned on this.

His record is that of an economic Grim Reaper and so far, he's continuing that role in Canada.

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

and why he is now working with Alberta on a pipeline project.

He's not.

Alberta is doing their own thing now.

Just like other industries in Canada, such as the Tool & Die industry I talked about, are realizing they are going to have to save themselves.

Carney is doing fuque all.

 

[Goddess]

 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Lol... sure you were.  I'm desperate and having a mental breakdown 

LOL finally we agree  

Not only did i give you the facts, YOU posted facts that prove me right   

Now everyone's laughing at your bizarre antics  

Life was still affordable under harper even in the big cities. THe cities were expensive, but affordable. 

After trudeau took over , despite running on making things more affordable very quickly things became unaffordable and at this point it's a national crisis. 
 

Cry harder kid   

[Goddess]

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

28 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The people and groups I follow on X are the direct links to the information and industries.  I find it very ironic that you only listen to CBC news, which sooooo much has come out about their lack of honest coverage, and then you accuse others of fake information.

Also you pay zero attention to what is happening in committee meetings and that's where the real work of government is.

For instance, in the recent Standing Committee on Industry & Technology, - which I watched on the government's own YouTube channel for committees, the head of metallurgical manufacturing in Canada said that it's obvious the Liberal government is not negotiating with the US on their behalf and they are going to send their own delegation to Washington to do what needs to be done.

You won't see that on CBC.  But that is a significant statement from an entire industry in Canada.

I also watched quite a lot of the committees on Housing and the one on Immigration (the one after the scathing Auditor General's report.)

Had you watched the committee on Housing, you wouldn't be here arguing with Fox about how affordable housing is in Canada.  Instead, you get your talking points from CBC, who are paid to tell you that everything is great and the Liberals are doing a fabulous job.  That same committee talked extensively about how the government failures on housing and immigration has affected young people.  And it wasn't blamed on social media use, FYI.

So your constant jabs at me about X and YouTube don't affect me.  You can't shame me on this.  You try every day to shame me into becoming just as stoopid as you are and you can't.  You simply can't.

It's YOU who should be ashamed.  You are willfully ignorant and deliberately misinformed.

You don't get to outright reject videos of WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN GOVERNMENT just because they aren't on your preferred social media medium.

And you're a complete id10t is you still believe you're getting anything close to the truth of what's going on in Canada by watching CBC and parroting their narrative.

 

Sure, all your friends on X and Facebook are dialed in to the real world with no bias whatsoever....

Yes, that industry expressed frustration early last year.  How exactly are they going to get 25% tariffs removed.... short answer, they're not.  Ever thought of why this industry and others with high tariffs are struggling right now?

No, your reliance of X posts is laughable because that's what you do...  You're bias as they come so only look for news from your think-alike friends on X and FB, so of course MSM doesn't fit your world of reality.

Regarding housing and your think-alike friend Fxx... I asked you yesterday to prove me wrong. Guessing you can't, can you...

You have the market cornered on idi0cy...  From your one track mind of crying and complaining all day long about the past, to your X 'news', to your imagined conspiracies... is not what most sane people do on a daily basis.

 

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

He's not.

Alberta is doing their own thing now.

Just like other industries in Canada, such as the Tool & Die industry I talked about, are realizing they are going to have to save themselves.

Carney is doing fuque all.

 

Interesting.... Smith believes the federal government is working with them.  Guess you know more from your X sources.

How is the tool & die industry going to 'save itself'...   It's mainly geared to the auto industry and if we have a trade partner that wants auto production to be happening in their country with 25% tariffs supporting that, how does that industry save themselves?  

That's your opinion which is fine. Approval ratings show the majority of Canadians think otherwise, and similar to Poilievre's disapproval rating.  Sounds about right... 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

One of the world's least affordable cities in the early 2010's was affordable. Makes sense...  Let's go with that... 😂

LOL ok so now we're going back to 2010    

You say it yourself. "one of the "least" affordable".  But still affordable.  

Prices were high in vancouver compared to most of the rest of the country but they were still affordable. Again, large detached houses were less affordable but that's not what the developers were building and it's not want you need to have a good home. 

It's like you include rolls royce and Lamborghini when trying to calculate the price of an average car, when in reality the fact is the price of a hyundai santa fe is probably more accurate if we're talking about whether or not people can afford to drive

In 2010 the average personal income was about 61,000 each, which means a young couple could very easily afford to buy a very nice townhouse and if they went for one in a decent area that wasn't brand new they would have been WELL under the 30 percent rule. 

Vancouver was expensive compared to many other markets but still affordable

Sorry for your bad luck kid

[LinkSoul60]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL finally we agree  

Not only did i give you the facts, YOU posted facts that prove me right   

Now everyone's laughing at your bizarre antics  

Life was still affordable under harper even in the big cities. THe cities were expensive, but affordable. 

After trudeau took over , despite running on making things more affordable very quickly things became unaffordable and at this point it's a national crisis. 
 

Cry harder kid   

Sure kid...  Why don't you cite some links to back those comments.

 

Edited April 21 by LinkSoul60

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL ok so now we're going back to 2010    

You say it yourself. "one of the "least" affordable".  But still affordable.  

Prices were high in vancouver compared to most of the rest of the country but they were still affordable. Again, large detached houses were less affordable but that's not what the developers were building and it's not want you need to have a good home. 

It's like you include rolls royce and Lamborghini when trying to calculate the price of an average car, when in reality the fact is the price of a hyundai santa fe is probably more accurate if we're talking about whether or not people can afford to drive

In 2010 the average personal income was about 61,000 each, which means a young couple could very easily afford to buy a very nice townhouse and if they went for one in a decent area that wasn't brand new they would have been WELL under the 30 percent rule. 

Vancouver was expensive compared to many other markets but still affordable

Sorry for your bad luck kid

Yes, 2010... Are you that uneducated to believe that housing markets only changed during one year...  

Again, cite some data to back up your claim.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, him and many other economists were wrong about covid and deflation.

Nope. It was him and the Bank of Canada. Literally everybody else was expecting inflationary pressures. In fact it seems so obvious and so many others predicted that it would be that it border lines on deliberate misinformation when they said that it wouldn't

24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

There is nothing hidden about the industrial carbon tax.  

PFFFFFFFFFTT!!! Ok, how much did you pay in industrial carbon tax last month? Should be easy for you to calculate seeing as there's nothing hidden about it   You certainly paid SOME, the suppliers will have passed on the costs to you, so how much is it?

 It is ENTIRELY a hidden tax. Consumers wind up being the ones who pay it and they have NO idea how much they're paying. 

Of all the lies you've told desperately trying to defend the libs, this was the most obviously rediculous

24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

 

Keeping the oil in the ground still has a lot of merit, but things change.  

No, it doesn't. 

24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Again, things change and why he is now working with Alberta on a pipeline project.

He very clearly isn't. The pipeline industry was extremely clear when he got elected that the current regulatory regime would not allow them to invest and they wouldn't be interested until the anti pipeline bill and the tanker pan were lifted

Carney deliberately kept those in place. He then negotiated a deal with Alberta but he refused to allow the first nations to be part of that discussion which he absolutely knew would P*ss them off. Meanwhile he declared that if the first nations aren't behind it then it won't go forward. So after p*ssing them off he makes the pipeline contingent on there approval

And just to add insult to injury he invited Saskatchewan to take part in the negotiations with Alberta after denying the first nations and British Columbia

And he's dragging his feet with a discussions with Alberta which are just the first stage.

If he was serious he could have had a pipeline project in hand and being approved was shovels in the ground later this year. As it is they're not going to get anywhere near that, and frankly based on the trajectory he's on there's no chance of a pipeline being approved and started before the next election.

 

It's all smoke and mirrors kid. Just like Justin, this guy is not here for Canada